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Old August 24th, 2016, 10:35 PM   #1961
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^ And your point being? Literally all architecture is both a copy of something that existed before somewhere else and a combination of local/individual treats.
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So people didn't build "proper buildings" elsewhere? Don't spread such ignorant bullshit.



Do you by chance know what came before baroque architecture and before renaissance architecture? Gothic architecture. It originated in Northern Europe and was very different from Greek and Roman architecture since heathen Greeks, Romans and their architecture and art was hated and feared in the Middle Ages. Later the gothic style spread also to Southern European countries and they, as you would call it, "imitated" that style. I guess after the fall of Rome they had forgotten how to "design proper buildings"?
Last but not least, long before the Greeks and Romans there were the Babylonians and Egyptians (which influenced Greek architecture and art by the way) and already they knew how to "design proper buildings."
Then why don't you use your Gothic architecture, instead? Why use statues of Neptun or others, instead of Thor? I've never seen a statue of Thor in the South European coast. (thankfully)
Because, trust me there is nothing more inappropriate than a statue of the goddess Athena/Minerva placed in Vienna. You should put your Locki, (or whatever) somewhere instead of Minerva, and please don't get mad, I'm only telling you that you should stick to your stuff, some sort of suggestion. (you've said it yourself that you almost have better)
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Old August 25th, 2016, 11:19 AM   #1962
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Your posts are among the most ridiculous things I've read on SSC. But well, keep on, it's quite entertaining.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 11:50 AM   #1963
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Shall we talk about the Duomo of Milano perhaps? One of the most beautiful Gothic and Neogothic cathedrals in Europe and it's in: ITALY.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 12:49 PM   #1964
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Yes, but it's unique. And I'm not sure that northern Italy can be seen as part of southern Europe....
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Old August 25th, 2016, 01:01 PM   #1965
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Boys and girls, let's don't get off topic, we are commenting the palace and the places where the inspiration came from, obviously from the heathen Romans and Greeks, like Tiaren says himself.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 03:50 PM   #1966
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Some more fresh impressions of the City Palace courtesy of Spreetunnel of the Stadtbild Deutschland Forum:





















Great work by the artisans and construction workers. They are of course all Italians and Greeks since barbaric Germans are too dumb to read the baroque designs and properly place one stone on the other.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 05:05 PM   #1967
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Wow!!...very comforting to see that we still have the savoir faire to build such a magnificent building(and I was pretty skeptical at first!)
However,it makes me sad that some are preaching an architecture revisionism(germanophobia?)
I did fall in love with architecture as a kid,visiting Potsdam Palaces with my parents;I was in amazing Munchen couple months ago and plan to travel on the Romantic Road very soon...Well,call me a dumb as I always thought German were among the greatest builders/artists!...
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Old August 26th, 2016, 06:37 AM   #1968
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Wow!!...very comforting to see that we still have the savoir faire to build such a magnificent building(and I was pretty skeptical at first!)
However,it makes me sad that some are preaching an architecture revisionism(germanophobia?)
I did fall in love with architecture as a kid,visiting Potsdam Palaces with my parents;I was in amazing Munchen couple months ago and plan to travel on the Romantic Road very soon...Well,call me a dumb as I always thought German were among the greatest builders/artists!...
I agree. If the cost of building something with flair is not excessively greater than building yet another glass box, then that is money well spent.
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Old August 26th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #1969
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And in the long run, cheaper...after everyone realizes the error in building a glass box and then decide to tear it down and start over.
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Old August 26th, 2016, 03:12 PM   #1970
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And in the long run, cheaper...after everyone realizes the error in building a glass box and then decide to tear it down and start over.

What's wrong with glass boxes?..isn't the NeueNationalGallery one?
Classic architecture vs modern/post modern architecture doesn't make sens.
When I stay in Berlin I enjoy Potsdamer Platz and its world renowned signatures(Jahn,Piano,Rogers,Gehry..)as much as Berlin Mitte and its amazing Museumsinsel!
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What's wrong with glass boxes?..isn't the NeueNationalGallery one?
Classic architecture vs modern/post modern architecture doesn't make sens.
When I stay in Berlin I enjoy Potsdamer Platz and its world renowned signatures(Jahn,Piano,Rogers,Gehry..)as much as Berlin Mitte and its amazing Museumsinsel!
Not all modern buildings are bad, especially buildings of Potsdamer Platz (one of my favourite European squares), but the modern wing of the Palace is definitely not worthy of its neighbour wings. It's just bland and uninspired. One can just look at the photos from the construction site, unfinished baroque facade looks way better than almost finished modern wing.
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Old August 26th, 2016, 03:49 PM   #1972
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...it's all about integrity of the building:would you wear Nike shoes with your Boss suit?..
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Well, that's why I don't like it very much, it doesn't integrate very well with the rest of the building. It looks like it was added on later. They could've made it much, much better, something that blends well with the rest of the building, but also looks contemporary and modern. Oh well, at least we didn't get some crazy Libeskind-esque "masterpiece".
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Old August 26th, 2016, 04:39 PM   #1974
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Oh well, at least we didn't get some crazy Libeskind-esque "masterpiece".
Or a Frank Gehry monstrosity tacked on...
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...it's all about integrity of the building:would you wear Nike shoes with your Boss suit?..
People actually do that.
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Old August 26th, 2016, 04:58 PM   #1976
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Or a Frank Gehry monstrosity tacked on...

Sorry King of Spam,but Gehry is,according to many,the greatest architect alive!
However,being tasteless is not considered as a crime...unless your hero,if elected,hires you as his devoted Goebbels!..
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Conversations like these are why I try to avoid this thread
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Old August 26th, 2016, 07:18 PM   #1978
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Conversations like these are why I try to avoid this thread

I remember a time when all the forumers had to suffer your teammates heavy jokes(LAF2 being your leader)
You probably feel lonesome today!..
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Old August 26th, 2016, 07:54 PM   #1979
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The overall thread is such a mess, every time someone writes something that doesn't prize this apparently 'colossal' thing, attacks come from every side from people who think that Gothic is the epitome of how you think churches and cathedrals should be build, but sadly newer heard of Byzantine architecture, and when I say Byzantine I don't think some tasteless Russian, or Bulgarian perception of the Byzantine style, but rather the original genuine terracotta marvels.
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The overall thread is such a mess, every time someone writes something that doesn't prize this apparently 'colossal' thing, attacks come from every side from people who think that Gothic is the epitome of how you think churches and cathedrals should be build, but sadly newer heard of Byzantine architecture, and when I say Byzantine I don't think some tasteless Russian, or Bulgarian perception of the Byzantine style, but rather the original genuine terracotta marvels.
Wow, you got some nerve... You are the one that f***** up this thread. You came in here attacking Northern Europeans for not being able to build "proper buildings", now you attack Eastern Europeans. Seriously, just get out of here, ASAP.

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