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Old June 12th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #61
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Old June 12th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #62
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Have you walked on to 'Montagne de buren' for a view of the city?
Actually, I did not. Just took a pic of the steps but was too lazy to walk up.
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Old June 13th, 2011, 01:16 PM   #63
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Old June 13th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #64
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Old June 13th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #65
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Thanks.

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Old June 15th, 2011, 04:13 PM   #66
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Old June 15th, 2011, 10:56 PM   #67
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Liege looking great as always

You missed something kampflamm not going up those steps. The view of the city is nice!
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...l/25235274.jpg
and if you climbed higher:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/...42f3fe89a9.jpg

It costs some sweat yes :p
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Old June 15th, 2011, 11:19 PM   #68
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Kampflamm is the master of details, so maybe he wouldn't like the panoramic view at all...
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Old June 15th, 2011, 11:35 PM   #69
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LOL, thanks. Well, to be honest I wanted to cramp as much stuff as possible into a couple of hours so the Montagne might have cost too much time. But since Liège is just 90 mins away and since there's always a reason to buy some Speculoos, I'm sure I'll make it back eventually.
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Maybe he found a detail in the panoramic vieuw he liked :p
Although that would require a big lens...
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Old June 16th, 2011, 04:55 PM   #71
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I guess I'll have to buy a zoom lens before my next trip then.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #72
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haha, no you don't. your pictures are very good already
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It's always nice to have some mountains or hills at the edge of your town. You often get a much better overview of the city than from the top of a high skyscraper in the town centre. I suggest we make an artificial mountain in the Antwerp suburbs
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Old June 16th, 2011, 08:16 PM   #74
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Or get a terril
You should buy one to Wallonia
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Old June 17th, 2011, 11:51 AM   #75
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Have you taken some pictures of Outremeuse, Bressoux, Bavière or some of the suburbs as Herstal, Jupille, etc. I`m always fascinated seeing those places. THey look scary but nice!
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Have you taken some pictures of Outremeuse, Bressoux, Bavière or some of the suburbs as Herstal, Jupille, etc. I`m always fascinated seeing those places. THey look scary but nice!
Fascinated in what sense?
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Fascinated in what sense?
Outremeuse and Baviere feel very urban for me. These areas are full of contrasts. I suppose that area around tour simenon and the new mediacité. Don`t know its name.
Herstal is quite industrial and a bit rundown in the center. Those big factories and industrial areas you can see, when you cross that highway bridge.
Maybe it`s jsut because i live in Germany and Liège and other belgian cities have that exotic feeling to me.
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Old June 17th, 2011, 03:04 PM   #78
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I noticed that about Liege, the Dutch usually find it horrible while the French quite like it (there are a lots of French residents in Liege).

The reason for this is that I think the Dutch don't "get" Liege.
Liege will never be the tidy, clean and bourgeois (and boring) city that the Dutch are so fond of; it is a completely different kind of city: gritty, lively, popular... a kind totally absent anywhere in the Netherlands.

If you go to Liege with a "Dutch" mindset, you'd expect a city to be tidy and clean and you see a noisy, unruly, "well worn" city instead; then it's easy to write off Liege; but it's *NOT* what it's meant to be.
It's like going to London and expecting a clean, safe, bourgeois place.

The French in the other hand, appreciate Liege. They precisely seek in Liege what actually is lacking more and more in French cities where Middle class quarters became too expensive and the working-class hoods went ghetto; Liege kept a popular and lively atmosphere that's why there are many French around, because they typically hate the tidy bourgeois places that the Dutch love.
Sorry but I don’t recognize myself in your story. Do you really think we (when it’s even possible to speak about we) go on holiday and expect it to be the same as in The Netherlands (the Dutch" mindset)? I go on holiday to see different places. I like Belgium because it’s not Holland. Luik has got a lot of ugly parts where I never want to live, but love to see. Why do you think Berlin is a very popular destination for the Dutch? Because it’s so tidy, clean and boring?
Your opinion about the Netherlands is clear. You don’t like our boring cities like Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague? Have you ever been there?
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Outremeuse and Baviere feel very urban for me. These areas are full of contrasts. I suppose that area around tour simenon and the new mediacité. Don`t know its name.
It's Longdoz. I live there for almost 2 years... Liege is one of the very few authentically urban cities of Belgium, with Antwerp.
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Sorry but I don’t recognize myself in your story. Do you really think we (when it’s even possible to speak about we) go on holiday and expect it to be the same as in The Netherlands (the Dutch" mindset)? I go on holiday to see different places. I like Belgium because it’s not Holland. Luik has got a lot of ugly parts where I never want to live, but love to see. Why do you think Berlin is a very popular destination for the Dutch? Because it’s so tidy, clean and boring?
Your opinion about the Netherlands is clear. You don’t like our boring cities like Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague? Have you ever been there?
I precisely like Amsterdam and Rotterdam (don't know The Hague) because it's urban and lively, but as far as I know, those places aren't very popular among many Dutchmen for that very reason (criminality, foreigners, not as clean as other places etc...). That's the price to pay for being "urban". (edit: ok I realised that I said those kind of places didn't exist in NL which is obviously not true...)
Now, I guess many Dutch love the urban, multicultural environment but those who voted Liege as "one of the ugliest cities in the world" often use the argument that "just cross the border and compare to Maastricht!" as if it was comparable. Liege is "not" meant to be "clean" and "touristic" like Maastricht.
Now it's probably a stereotype if you will, but there is a bit of truth in the idea that Belgians love chaos and Dutch love order.

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