Baghdad Cafe Chit-Chat thread - Page 20

SumerianKing · February 21st, 2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

yes, ofcourse bro

Thats great to hear

You know something.. A lot of people on this forum are very enthusiastic about building and helping their country, It makes me very happy

You never know maybe one day us lot will all go back there in some point of our lifes and create a massive project together to help our people.

***BigDreamer*** · February 21st, 2012, 10:49 AM

that's a very good idea , everyone here has very interesting backgrounds, and experience. as a collective, we can try to help our homeland in positive way.

Mesch · February 21st, 2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

yes thats right on the spot mesch

we really dont have a unique cuisine of our own.. our cuisine is very eclectic in nature.. i guess it's good and bad in a way.. bad because it's harder for us to claim that there is such a thing as an "authentic" Iraqi cusine in the same way lets say how Italians, or Japanese can .. on the bright side, our food is very varied and exciting, its more like an international fair

I see it as you've got the best of everything!

and I did find dishes which, to my knowledge, are an Iraqi specialty. Masgouf, Tepsi Beytinijan, a lot of the Mergas and others are all examples of which.

I honestly think it's the most varied cuisine in the Middle East and this is coming from a Saudi (our cuisine includes dishes of Indonesian origin haha)

Chounz · February 21st, 2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

yes thats right on the spot mesch

we really dont have a unique cuisine of our own.. our cuisine is very eclectic in nature.. i guess it's good and bad in a way.. bad because it's harder for us to claim that there is such a thing as an "authentic" Iraqi cusine in the same way lets say how Italians, or Japanese can .. on the bright side, our food is very varied and exciting, its more like an international fair

I don't agree with that BigD there are plentyyy of Iraqi dishes that are solely Iraqi and not brought from somewhere else. And even when dishes do come to us from other regions such as the Levant, Turkey and Iran they were brought centuries ago and we make our own versions of them. For example our Dolma is extremely different from Turkish Dolma. Same goes with Biryani or fesenjoon. Even our Kabab is different. Plus, dishes like Pacha and Qoozi are authentic traditional Iraqi dishes and just because a variation of them may exist in other countries doesn't mean it's not Iraqi. There's also Maqlooba, Freeka, Msakhan, Tashreeb, Parda palaw, Ma7roog Isib3ah

and many others. After all 80 years ago there were no borders, we were all part of the ottoman empire and different areas adopted things from one another.

***BigDreamer*** · February 21st, 2012, 11:22 PM

yes, but if we name the ones that are truely native to iraq (and originated from iraq), i dont think it's that many.. I'm curious to know actually

other than masgouf, what else is there that is 100% iraqi ?

doulma, pacha, qouzi, maqlooba, freeka, mskhan, tashreeb, parda palaw, etc are all non iraqi in origin (or we simply dont know where they started, too long ago to keep a record).

Chounz · February 21st, 2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

yes, but if we name the ones that are truely native to iraq (and originated from iraq), i dont think it's that many.. I'm curious to know actually

other than masgouf, what else is there that is 100% iraqi ?

Well yeah few dishes are 100% Iraqi; just like nothing is 100% Lebanese, or 100% Syrian.. or 100% Palestinian. We all to some extent have the same sort of dishes in the area, they can be named the same or they can be named differently, they can taste the same/be prepared the same way and they can taste completely different!

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

doulma, pacha, qouzi, maqlooba, freeka, mskhan, tashreeb, parda palaw, etc are all non iraqi in origin (or we simply dont know where they started, too long ago to keep a record).

Just because variations of these dishes exist in other countries doesn't mean they're all originally non-Iraqi; that was my point. If all these dishes were brought from somewhere else la3ad what did we eat before that?

Were we cannibals? Ma ma38oola ya3ni!

SumerianKing · February 21st, 2012, 11:46 PM

Kubba is thought to be iraqi.. Check my thread on ancient iraqi words.. Also kliecha

Chounz · February 21st, 2012, 11:47 PM

For example, Mujaddara. If I had mentioned Mujaddara to you before you probably would have said 'Mujaddara is not Iraqi, it was brought to us from somewhere else'.

And yet: The first recorded recipe for mujaddara appears in Kitab al-Tabikh, a cookbook compiled in 1226 by al-Baghdadi in Iraq.

This is from the Wiki page..

***BigDreamer*** · February 21st, 2012, 11:53 PM

oh yes, i forgot about kuba and kleicha , they are native to Iraq too

um, yes to what chounz said ,

what's mujaddara?

***BigDreamer*** · February 21st, 2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chounz

Well yeah few dishes are 100% Iraqi; just like nothing is 100% Lebanese, or 100% Syrian.. or 100% Palestinian.

yes, BUT there are many dishes that are 100% Italian, 100% Japanse, 100% chinese.. that was my point

palastine, lebanon, etc.. are in the same case as us IMO

Chounz · February 22nd, 2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDreamer

oh yes, i forgot about kuba and kleicha , they are native to Iraq too

um, yes to what chounz said ,

what's mujaddara?

No clue actually.

Which doesn't really help my point but it was written in the 'Iraqi cuisine' page on wiki; perhaps it has another name in Iraq..

QuickneutronU235 · February 22nd, 2012, 03:33 PM

QEEMA IS 100% IRAQI BD.

QuickneutronU235 · February 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM

khoboz-teeman(tab'ag). me3dan who makes Tab'eg, they live in ahwar region those who makes tab'bog.

QuickneutronU235 · February 22nd, 2012, 03:45 PM

I don't know if it's Iraqi, but you must enjoy the clip.

QuickneutronU235 · February 22nd, 2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by QuickneutronU235

khoboz-teeman(tab'ag). me3dan who makes Tab'eg, they live in ahwar region those who makes tab'bog.

torshi al najaf, torshi baghdad, etc.

FromBaghdadWithLove · February 22nd, 2012, 04:07 PM

kubat almousil

SumerianKing · February 22nd, 2012, 11:18 PM

Chaak cheek chekcheka

***elusive*** · February 23rd, 2012, 01:23 AM

LOL

Chounz · February 23rd, 2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SumerianKing

Chaak cheek chekcheka

Haha. My cousins used to play that song allll the time in their car... catchy but of course gets annoying after a while.

Messed up lyrics though.. 'wallah la as3ad fo8uka.. witshoofny min ta7tuka'

something like that. My mum/aunt used to be like WTF..

Chounz · February 23rd, 2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by QuickneutronU235

I don't know if it's Iraqi, but you must enjoy the clip.

Thanks for this... is that a Diwaniya specialty or is it just general Iraqi? I'd love to try what they're making, looks good.

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February 21st, 2012, 10:49 AM	#382
*BigDreamer* Dreams of Babylon Rising Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,071 Likes (Received): 268	that's a very good idea , everyone here has very interesting backgrounds, and experience. as a collective, we can try to help our homeland in positive way.

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*BigDreamer* Dreams of Babylon Rising Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,071 Likes (Received): 268	yes, but if we name the ones that are truely native to iraq (and originated from iraq), i dont think it's that many.. I'm curious to know actually other than masgouf, what else is there that is 100% iraqi ? doulma, pacha, qouzi, maqlooba, freeka, mskhan, tashreeb, parda palaw, etc are all non iraqi in origin (or we simply dont know where they started, too long ago to keep a record).

February 21st, 2012, 11:47 PM	#388
Chounz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North England Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 167	For example, Mujaddara. If I had mentioned Mujaddara to you before you probably would have said 'Mujaddara is not Iraqi, it was brought to us from somewhere else'. And yet: The first recorded recipe for mujaddara appears in Kitab al-Tabikh, a cookbook compiled in 1226* by al-Baghdadi in Iraq.* This is from the Wiki page..

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*BigDreamer* Dreams of Babylon Rising Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,071 Likes (Received): 268	oh yes, i forgot about kuba and kleicha , they are native to Iraq too um, yes to what chounz said , what's mujaddara?

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