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Old November 15th, 2014, 02:31 AM   #181
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Old November 21st, 2014, 10:14 PM   #182
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Looks like Turkish ;-)



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Old November 22nd, 2014, 01:23 AM   #183
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So, some news for Istanbul, especially regarding Turkish Airlines:

While it has decided to cancel its service to Luanda (not yet launched, due 23 November 2014), the Turkish Prime Minister has recently signed a new air pact with Philippine transportation officials, allowing the airline to operate between Istanbul and Manila from Summer 2015. The upcoming service will initially operate 4x weekly to the Philippine capital, with plans to making it up to a daily (which the Prime Minister wants to happen).
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 01:45 AM   #184
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Ataturk is a terrible airport.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 02:14 AM   #185
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How come? What made you think that way?
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 09:28 AM   #186
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designed for 30 million passengers but serving 55 million.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 11:52 AM   #187
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That's a similar case in many other (older) airports around the world. Manila, for example, has a combined capacity of around 12 million, but it currently carries nearly 3x over the limit (at around 32 million per annum). And by the way, what's the maximum and current capacities for SAW?
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Old November 25th, 2014, 04:36 PM   #188
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Construction of Istanbul’s third airport continues at full throttle despite concerns



The new airport is expected to host 150 million passengers each year.



Construction of Istanbul’s third airport is continuing, in a bid to establish in Turkey’s largest city what the government hopes will be the most important center of world air traffic.

The Cengiz-Kolin-Limak-Mapa-Kalyon Consortium, a joint venture of Turkish companies, is continuing ground works with the grant holder of the site Istanbul Grand Airport (IGA). Company officials say the operations are ongoing on 76.5 square kilometers of land.

The controversial facility, promoted by the government to showcase development, will become not only Istanbul’s largest airport but also one of the world’s major hubs. Its construction in one of the city’s most precious natural areas, however, has drawn criticism from activists denouncing a culture of plunder and destruction.

There are currently two different lawsuits opened by the Chamber of Environmental Engineers against the contracting of the airport construction, but there has been no development in the cases in the last two years. The Northern Forest Defense, an environmental group that has long been advocating against the third airport and bridge, has launched an online campaign under the hashtag “Resist the third airport.”

With local and foreign experts overseeing the work, a total of 780 geological surveys have been conducted since the beginning of works in March 2014, along with 1,020 soil sample tests and 9,000 Cone Penetrometer Tests (CPT), according to the project’s geotechnical reports.

The Turkish Aviation Organization and Administration, which is under the authority of the General Directorate of State Airports, is following the coordination and management of the project’s progress. The airport is planned to be opened in 2017.
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Old November 26th, 2014, 12:44 AM   #189
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we heard that Doğan Media Group will be destroyed by Tayyip Erdoğan's allies,
probably that is the reason behind this manipulative news.

because we certainly know that nobody can enter the field, even nobody can fly above the field except those construction companies and certain government authorities.

trucks are getting stuck in the mud, contractors request mercedes to disable engine safety lock which provides engine protection during skid for mercedes trucks.

the field chosen for the airport is totally wrong in terms of urbanity, nature preservation, weather conditions etc.
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Old November 26th, 2014, 08:07 AM   #190
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That is so strange... what will be the name of the new airport? And what's the political saga like between the government, the contractors, the environmentalists, and influential people in the aviation and transportation fields?
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Old November 26th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #191
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the name will probably be Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Atatürk Airport will close if everything goes well for them.

Location selected for making Third Bridge's location logical. The area consist of abandoned mines, forest and lakes.
80% of the area WAS forest and 9% area WAS lake. (According to Environmental Impact Report)

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Environmentalist and remarkable amount of İstanbul's citizens don't want any expansion of the city to north. Because we have water and forest which we need to sustain our lives.
You can watch Ekümenopolis, a documentary about İstanbul's unstoppable expansion.

On the other hand, government wants to keep boosting construction sector since its one of the major economic income in country and doing it by enriching their allies.

+The field have amazing winds and on major migration route for many birds...
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Old November 27th, 2014, 01:08 PM   #192
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Currently present Airports are running out of the capacity......desperately need another airport.......also traffic will continuously grow....it is just started look at the figure.....Europe 4th busiest Airport Ataturk International.....in just 3 years.......so no option other then new airport......

2013 figures...
Rank
2013 Country Airport City Passengers
2012 Passengers
2013 Change
2012-2013
1 United Kingdom London Heathrow Airport London 70,037,417[1] 72,367,054[1] Increase3.3%
2 France Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport Paris 61,611,934[2] 62,052,917[2] Increase0.7%
3 Germany Frankfurt Airport Frankfurt 57,520,001[3] 58,036,948[3] Increase0.9%
4 Netherlands Amsterdam Airport Schiphol Amsterdam 51,035,590[4] 52,569,250[4] Increase3.0%
5 Turkey Istanbul Atatürk Airport Istanbul 45,091,962[5] 51,297,790[5] Increase13.8%
6 Spain Barajas Airport Madrid 45,190,528[6] 39,729,027[6] Decrease12.1%
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Old November 27th, 2014, 11:28 PM   #193
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we can extend Atatürk, we spent 5 billion dollars to Syrians, why not spend another 5 for extending this airport?

By the way, we already have Sabiha Gökçen and its third extension plan.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 08:54 AM   #194
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Can SAW be expanded to allow long-haul international ops, or is it strictly domestic and European flights only? I mean, if IST is overcrowded, shifting some of TK's services to SAW (like what it has done before) can help ease the pressure off Ataturk.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 10:02 AM   #195
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we can extend Atatürk, we spent 5 billion dollars to Syrians, why not spend another 5 for extending this airport?

By the way, we already have Sabiha Gökçen and its third extension plan.
Ataturk IA is covered by other Developments......so no space for further Developments........except they reclaim creek Area and do another Runway or Terminal but again environmental guy come into picture......

Sabiha Gokcen is for Istambul Suburban areas.......not having much international connections as Ataturk IA but its development is for domestic purpose only....!
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Old November 28th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #197
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Ataturk IA is covered by other Developments......so no space for further Developments........except they reclaim creek Area and do another Runway or Terminal but again environmental guy come into picture......

Sabiha Gokcen is for Istambul Suburban areas.......not having much international connections as Ataturk IA but its development is for domestic purpose only....!
Actually you are wrong.

Space problem for Atatürk is the reason behind 5 billion dollars. We can solve space issue with money.
Plus many environmentalist will prefer extension of Atatürk to Marmara Sea rather than northern forests.

SAW is not for İstanbul's suburban areas. Its for Asian side of İstanbul mostly,
but since government has a stake in Turkish Airlines, they reject effective usage of SAW to create need for third airport (until recently due to demand. Plus, its the reason behind Pegasus Airlines' success)
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Old November 29th, 2014, 11:14 AM   #198
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How much more can SAW expand to allow long-haul flights to reduce the burden found in IST? I mean, the Turkish government has a considerable stake with TK that the airline has shifted some of its ops to SAW last year... I mean, I believe that SAW can work as an alternative airport to IST, especially for those flying in from Asia and the Middle East.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 11:34 AM   #199
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latest project will increase capacity of SAW to 70 million, with more terminals, 3500 meter second runway and a new control tower,
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Will the terminal expansion include provisions for A380 gates as well, and what is the targeted completion month and year for that project? The future terminal layout seems to be quite similar to that found in Atlanta and Denver with "isolated" piers connected by an underground passageway...
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