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Old July 28th, 2015, 05:37 AM   #941
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Eunpyeong New Town Elcru Eunpyeong-gu, Jingwan-dong

http://blog.daum.net/_blog/photoList...categoryid=208
Started preparation works

Eunpyeong Michelan Eunpyeong-gu, Jingwan-dong

http://realestate.daum.net/news/deta...130109004.daum
Started preparation works

Eunpyeong New Town Shinhan Hestia Eunpyeong-gu, Jingwan-dong

http://article.joins.com/news/articl...rticle|default
Currently building up I think

e-Convenient World Sinchon Seodaemun-gu, Bukahyeon-dong

http://www.ajunews.com/view/20150415105508805
Almost completed the foundations

Ahyeon Station Prugio Seodaemun-gu, Bukahyeon-dong

http://www.prugio-ahyeon1-2.com/
Topped out

Ahyeon I-Park Mapo-gu, Ahyeon-dong

http://www.newstomato.com/ReadNews.aspx?no=468547
Working on foundations
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Seoul Station Central Ja-I Jung-gu, Seogye-dong

http://netrophy.tistory.com/165
Working on foundations

Yongsan Prugio Summit Yongsan-gu, Hangangstreet-2-ga

http://biz.heraldcorp.com/view.php?ud=20140926000553
5 to 10 floors up right now

Raemian Yongsan Yongsan-gu, Hangangstreet-2-ga

http://raemian.co.kr/mobile/estatede...111C&mode=plan
5 to 10 floors up right now
Raemian Ichon Chellituce (? what the hell does 첼리투스 mean, anyway, that's the Ichon Rex building) Yongsan-gu, Ichon-dong

http://luxmen.mk.co.kr/view.php?sc=5...10&relatedcode=
Completed, but has yet to open

Gyeonghuigung Ja-I Jongro-gu, Songwol-dong

http://netrophy.tistory.com/189
Working on foundations
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Old July 28th, 2015, 06:16 AM   #943
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Oksu e-Convenient World Seongdong-gu, Oksu-dong

http://oi-lab.com/gnuboard4/bbs/boar...1&wr_id=100015
Still working on foundations

New Geumho Park Xii Seongdong-gu, Geumho-dong

http://www.etnews.com/20150309000188
Almost topped out

Geumho-dong Redevelopment Project (not the real name, but I couldn't find it as this project is still in its early phases) Seongdong-gu, Geumho-dong

http://www.areyou.co.kr/news/article...ml?idxno=15737
Just finished destroying the houses that were on site

Wangsimni KCC Switchen Seongdong-gu, Hawangsimni-dong

http://article.joins.com/news/articl...rticle|default
Has reached 5 to 10 floors

Wangsimni Centrass Seongdong-gu, Hawangsimni-dong

http://realestate.daum.net/news/deta...st/121282.daum
Construction about halfway completed

Bomun Park View Xii Seongbuk-gu, Bomun-dong

http://biz.chosun.com/site/data/html...092401486.html
Still working on foundations
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Old July 28th, 2015, 07:21 AM   #944
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Appreciate it.

Indeed, these are no landmarks, and stale by many standards. But these buildings are usually in the 20 to 30 floor range, and are not designed as attractions for visitors or tourists.

I don't think it would be appropriate to call them commieblocks though. Korean commie blocks date back from the 70s-80s, do not top 10 floors, are longer than taller with no ammenities on the first floor. These new towers are indeed towers. They are thin, usually measure over 100 meters, and are of high standing. Actually, some of these new buildings are being built over existing commieblocks, showcasing how much of a significant upgrade they are.

It's also important to put these buildings in the Korean context. Unlike Hong Kong, China, or New York, the proportion of multimillionaires is fairly low, which makes it difficult to build luxury towers (like the new towers in New York) en masse. However, Korea has a very robust middle-high class, for whom these buildings are designed. And these middle-high class Koreans still live, for many of them, in commieblocks or in fairly equally underwhelming appartments. So these new buildings sure feel a hole by catering to this population.

What's also good from an architectural standpoint about these buildings is that while Korea is building some of the world's tallest buildings, there is a certain lack of overall density in the skyline. Except for Jongro, it's hard to take an aerial picture of a large neighborhood without seeing countless actual commieblocks or smaller "villas" (small 2-3 floor urban Korean houses). Eastern Yeouido is commieblock heaven, and while Gangnam is impressive along the larger Streets (Gangnam, Teheran, Eonju, Bongeunsa, Nonhyeon, Hakdong, Seonlleung, Samseong, Yeongdong, Dogok, Seocho, Dosan, Apgujeong), in between, there are many villas but few highrises. These new buildings Under construction, while not overwhelmingly impressive, truly help build Seoul up.


I probably won't be able to post the buildings North of the Han river today, but I'll add the geographical location (gu and dong) of these buildings and maybe try to add the satellite picture or it.

For information, most of the completion status "one-sentence analysis" I wrote are based on the satellite picture available (from March or April 2015), but for some of them - especially in Gangnam or Seocho, where I lived - I've directly eyewitnessed how these buildings are growing.
That's a good point. If the American analog to these fairly bland apartments is our cookie-cutter McMansions, then they are superior in almost every way. I think it's just that for most Americans, and probably most Europeans, the idea of living 15-30 stories high sounds like some kind of exotic luxury that you'd want to have made all the more special with interesting architecture.

By contrast, for most Koreans--or at least most Seoulites--it's just a fact of life, so why try to dramatize it excessively? There are dozens of 30-floor buildings everywhere, so it's not such a big deal to live in one over the other.

I guess it's just a different mindset; I just hope the city's residents don't come to regret it as much as I think they will.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 08:13 AM   #945
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That's a good point. If the American analog to these fairly bland apartments is our cookie-cutter McMansions, then they are superior in almost every way. I think it's just that for most Americans, and probably most Europeans, the idea of living 15-30 stories high sounds like some kind of exotic luxury that you'd want to have made all the more special with interesting architecture.

By contrast, for most Koreans--or at least most Seoulites--it's just a fact of life, so why try to dramatize it excessively? There are dozens of 30-floor buildings everywhere, so it's not such a big deal to live in one over the other.

I guess it's just a different mindset; I just hope the city's residents don't come to regret it as much as I think they will.
It's true that for Koreans, living on a higher floor doesn't mean as much in terms prestige and stuff, and they don't long for it the way Europeans might. One thing that is important though, at least for developers, is that Koreans are usually very interested in quantitative dominance in an economic sense (exporting nations rankings, GDP/inhabitant, company ranking per capitalization,...). Overall, Koreans tend to define their new economic success by numbers, rather than focusing on harder-to-define measures such as quality of life... So for developers, it's only natural that the next building HAS TO be taller than the previous one, in a very psychological way, as it follows the country's "natural" process of economic growth.

On a more practical measure, until the early 2000s, Korea was still growing at a healthy rate (birthrate was already low, but there were almost no old people back then), so demographic pressure has remained an important factor until recently. Demographic pressure is still actually important, not because the population is booming, but because :
- The household size is shrinking (more and more older people are not "taken in" by their parents anymore, people are starting to live alone before their wedding), so there needs to be more houses built
- People have bigger expectations, so for a constant household size, the surface is increasing

With little plains around, it almost mathematically means that new constructions over existing ones have to be denser than the previous ones, hence taller. That's especially true since small "villa neighborhood" (3 or 4 floors) are very dense despite being low, and people are packed, with underwhelming public hygiene or insufficient green areas.

An additional pressure comes from the fact that in the 80s, most of Seoul was...housing. Now, 1st floors are all commercial areas, many places are turned into parks, residential malls become department stores, museums, or company HQs, so the share of the city's surface area dedicated to housing has diminished.
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Seoul Trimage Seongdong-gu, Seongsu-dong

http://news.mk.co.kr/newsRead.php?no=250475&year=2014
About 5 to 10 floor tall

e-Convenient World Hwarangdae Jungrang-gu, Muk-dong

http://www.daelim-apt.co.kr/Cicm_vie...BIZ_LND=090195
Finishing excavation

Mia District 4 Redevelopment Plan (dont't know about the project's final name either) Gangbuk-gu, Mia-dong

http://www.liftfocus.com/technote/re...&y_number=1246
Currently working on foundations

Jangui New Town Dream Forest Kolon Haneulchae Seongbuk-gu, Jangui-dong

http://dollartree.tistory.com/56
Probably just started prep work

Dream Forest SK View Nowon-gu, Wolgye-dong

http://biz.heraldcorp.com/view.php?ud=20140913000025
Nealry topped out

Donamjeongreung District Redevelopment Project (again, unsure about the final name)

http://9228882.kmswb.kr/hot/hot_deta...dev_no=1003496
Finishing excavation
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PLUS MY home town(GEUMCHEONGU DISTIRCT) residence/commercial mixed project get APP
AREA 7841.50㎡
basement 6fl~ over 37~39fl 3unit
residence 432
offictel 396
donation 21.8% 2080.2㎡ is for public utilities such like a small park and pedestrian board
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Old July 28th, 2015, 09:42 AM   #948
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PLUS MY home town(GEUMCHEONGU DISTIRCT) residence/commercial mixed project get APP
AREA 7841.50㎡
basement 6fl~ over 37~39fl 3unit
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donation 21.8% 2080.2㎡ is for public utilities such like a small park and pedestrian board
Thanks for the update.

For my own list, I did voluntarly include only the projects that are Under construction or in Prep, not the ones only approved or proposed.

I probably missed some (many) anyway.

I also excluded buildings that are essentially non-residential : Lotte World Tower, Park1, AmorePacific HQ, Ambassador Hotel... as well as stadiums, shopping malls and other infrastructures
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Old July 28th, 2015, 11:09 AM   #949
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Seoul government's civil offering presentation for new 10 years Subway project.

10 new line and about 90km new subway and light rail system will be U/C in seoul. so they held presentation
bytheway this 10years subway title is "everywhere in seoul citizens can approach in subway in 10 minute by walk"


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Thanks for the update.

For my own list, I did voluntarly include only the projects that are Under construction or in Prep, not the ones only approved or proposed.

I probably missed some (many) anyway.

I also excluded buildings that are essentially non-residential : Lotte World Tower, Park1, AmorePacific HQ, Ambassador Hotel... as well as stadiums, shopping malls and other infrastructures

It's OK. too many project ongoing in seoul.(even Magok or bubjodanji one district area too many) So it is hard to arrange all project. even almost every per two days new project released in seoul. bytheway u did good jobs
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Old July 29th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #950
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Looks like finally (after many many years) something is going on at this unfinished building.

Someone mentioned it already here, that there is a new owner/developer.

photo source: http://blog.naver.com/suntill0210/220417274618
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look my home town original ROUND SHAPE residence design
it have a balcony and round shape n creative
i like it
but


end up changed to this boxy shape

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Looks like finally (after many many years) something is going on at this unfinished building.

Someone mentioned it already here, that there is a new owner/developer.

photo source: http://blog.naver.com/suntill0210/220417274618

right bro that project 16years hold on but recently resume by HONGKONG FUND=PAG GLOSTAR CONSORTIUM
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Inno, do you know why they would've made that change? It wasn't exactly a crazy shape before, but it was definitely better than the boxy ones they settled on.
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look my home town original ROUND SHAPE residence design
it have a balcony and round shape n creative
i like it
but


end up changed to this boxy shape




right bro that project 16years hold on but recently resume by HONGKONG FUND=PAG GLOSTAR CONSORTIUM
Wow, 16 years on hold... that's a lot for such a prime location. Everytime I walked in this area I thought they were actually demolishing an old building because the structure kind of looks decrepited. No Wonder, if it's been on hold for so long.
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Inno, do you know why they would've made that change? It wasn't exactly a crazy shape before, but it was definitely better than the boxy ones they settled on.

Guess
Lotte make a huge size little bit luxury residence in my home town project.
So they try some creative n distinguish design as like a round shape.(like a Tower palace)

But few years later original large size plan have to changed due to economy depression.
So they modify interior and design from large one to small one
cause small one is affordable price for middle class customer.

in short they won;t be risk for luxury. That result they changed design from round to boxy one.
as u know boxy one is more common and low management expenses etc.

in short that boxy one is conservative design

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Wow, 16 years on hold... that's a lot for such a prime location. Everytime I walked in this area I thought they were actually demolishing an old building because the structure kind of looks decrepited. No Wonder, if it's been on hold for so long.
right that location prime in korea peninsula. nearby hyundai 571m/parnas tower(changed from hotel to office)/renassance hotel project.
now booming location at gold line
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http://media.daum.net/economic/estat...50731155203370
Around SOSU Station 386,000㎡(11만평) development(IT / BIO company and hotel/Public residence) etc Pre
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I mentioned a few days ago current projects in Seocho / Gangnam. I walked around the area today and took pictures. They're not high quality, but still, it gives you an idea of how the construction progresses

Raemian Seocho Estage (Estage???) Seocho-gu, Seocho-dong

http://raemian.co.kr/sales/seocho3


20150801_195648
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20150801_195745
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I know, the pictures are terrible. But it gives you an idea about the height of the building. Around 4 floors ?


Raemian Daechi CheongSil Gangnam-gu, Daechi-dong

http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm...52515542399022



20150801_184832
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20150801_184909
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Raemian Jamwon Seocho-gu, Jamwon-dong

http://www.newstomato.com/ReadNews.aspx?no=398092



20150801_153835
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This picture doesn't do the project any justice. These tower look truly massive and tall

Acro River Park Seocho-gu, Banpo-dong

http://www.daelim-apt.co.kr/Cicm_vie...BIZ_LND=010366



20150801_151600
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As I was strolling for pictures of Acroriver and Jamwon Raemian today, I found at the the Sinbanpo District 5 apartments were now closed off, and this suggest a new construction project underway there


20150801_143946
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http://estate4u.tistory.com/m/post/6315

I do not know for sure if this project has been approved and if construction will indeed begin. Anyway, this is a project to keep an eye on.
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http://news.mk.co.kr/newsRead.php?year=2015&no=699282

The entire Sinbanpo area is full of old commieblocks, and there seems to be projects for reconstruction of the entire district.

Districts 3 and 23 have decided to merge and to be reconstructed together. I don't know if there is a timeline and a definite render yet.
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http://www.housingherald.co.kr/news/...ml?idxno=11012

Woosong District 2 Apartments have been demolished, I just witnessed it today (there were still there on the satellite pictures from April on Google Maps).

The picture above is the render for the future redeveloped apartments.
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http://estate4u.tistory.com/5825
Oh look at those beautiful buildings, what an engineering marvel...

The Mujigae (Rainbow) Appartments in Seocho now have a sign in front of their entrance indicating that they will be rebuilt.


20150801_195202
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Didn't find any render nor timeline, but the area West of Gangnam Avenue and South of Seocho Avenue sure is having a lot of things going on
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