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Old November 26th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #1241
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Anyway if thAt lsland host edm festival
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Obviously we already all know that you won't let hard cold facts get in the way of your biases...

The Opera House was priced at 673 billion wons.
(http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/...px?aid=2930362). I believe this was in 2009 KRW. Cumulative inflation in the 2010-2015 period has been 13% (http://www.inflation.eu/inflation-ra...uth-korea.aspx), so at 2015 KRW, that would put the project at 761 billion wons (665 million dollars). And we all know that inflation projects' costs in Korea and elsewhere grow faster than the base inflation rate. But I'll let that slide... And this project was first proposed in 2005, so if the initial project was such a slam dunk, budgeting would have been approved before late 2011, when Mayor Oh resigned.

The current project is not priced $20 million, it was just announced that the overall cost of the project would be 490 billion wons - or 428 million dollars.
(http://news.mk.co.kr/newsRead.php?no=1117051&year=2015).

So the new project costs about 2/3rds of the first one. Yep it's not an opera house, but an other project. Sure, it's probably not as ambitious, but that's more than a $200 million difference. Is a bigger project worth the extra money? I don't know... maybe. But yet again your political hatred cloud your judgement.

Also, interesting comparision. Mayor Oh's Opera House was to seat 2,100 (http://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Cultu...rticleId=81823).
In the meantime, the Lotte World Concert Hall will open in August 2016 (http://news.heraldcorp.com/view.php?ud=20151120000234), also seats over 2000 people and costs only 124 billion wons (http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20140618001059)... So that's about a 1/5th of the Nodeulseom Opera House. Of course, I'm fully aware that the projects are different and that the Nodeulseom project included other amenities, galleries, and stuff, but still, Lotte Hall is much much cheaper. And due to the laws of supply and demand, the Lotte Hall will get bookings going on, so having another classical music / opera venue in Seoul would be hardly viable now, because the market would be saturated, at least to some degree.

So yeah, the world is more complicated than just "Park Won-Soon is the devil and wants to destroy the city and the country he so loathes"... Remember that city debt tripled during Mayor Oh's 6-year tenure, and has been mostly stable since Park was elected.
There's no such thing as a free lunch. Politics is almost never black and white, and economic policies never are. You can't easily calculate opportunity costs when comparing apple and oranges.

And let me remind you, this is coming from someone who strongly dislikes Mayor Park, so it's not like I'm supporting him in any way.

this guy always lost my precious time.
let's wait I will show you your WRONG INFORMATION
OK you bring back lost opera house design money which one disappear in the air. I'm not stupid like you who praise this comedy project.
come one I am the only one who give 100% exact information about seoul in ssc. you didn't admit it before?
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Old November 26th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #1242
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I meant more along the lines of not developing it at all, just letting nature do what it wants with it.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 06:02 PM   #1243
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I meant more along the lines of not developing it at all, just letting nature do what it wants with it.
Well, first of all, I'm not gonna gratify Inno4321 by quoting him or offering a proper response. The only thing I'm gonna say is kuddos for insulting the entire community claiming that you were the only one ever providing valid information. I'm sure great forumers such as Victoria123, Seoul_Korea, Theseventhshape, Munwon, Korea2002, cestlavie24, humptydumpty7, aquaticko, Sr.Horn and the others I forgot to mention (my apologies) are grateful for the way you value their contributions.

But back to us aquaticko Well, letting nature do its thing entirely would take decades or centuries, and even then it would be full of bushes and not be welcoming for people to come over. But if you mean, say, a park, manmade, but only a park with wildlife and vegetation but without any concert venues, shops, restaurants or any construction of any kind, now that is something that could potentially work, you're right. It would be a bit like Seonyudo, except that Seonyudo has a few buildings and a museum-type thing.

Don't know if it would be a better plan than Band of Nodeul, but that's certainly something that would have been worth considering (and maybe it was).
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Old November 26th, 2015, 08:38 PM   #1244
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The South Korean government wants to carry out a 5-year project for localizing skyscraper technology. They want to change that skyscrapers in Korea are designed by foreign firms with foreign technology. So they will try to develop own technologies and designs until 2020.
This article implies that there aren't many homegrown architectural firms within South Korea. It is possible that a Korean architectural firm may just copy a skyscraper design technology from another country, because it is really hard to come up with an original technology. This article could put us under the impression that countries really do have different skyscraper technologies. For example, a country may build its skyscrapers using either reinforced concrete or steel only, or both those materials (called "composite structure"). I hope a new thread about this is started.
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Old November 26th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #1245
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...Well, letting nature do its thing entirely would take decades or centuries, and even then it would be full of bushes and not be welcoming for people to come over. But if you mean, say, a park, manmade, but only a park with wildlife and vegetation but without any concert venues, shops, restaurants or any construction of any kind, now that is something that could potentially work, you're right. It would be a bit like Seonyudo, except that Seonyudo has a few buildings and a museum-type thing.

Don't know if it would be a better plan than Band of Nodeul, but that's certainly something that would have been worth considering (and maybe it was).
That's true. I just know that the Korean government has a long history of...how should I put it...terraforming, and it would be nice to see the reverse happen for once. A regular ol' park would work as well, and would probably be just as hospitable to wildlife.

@Jim856796 Yes, that confused me, too. Although Korean companies' expertise in buildings supertalls is obviously primarily overseas, it shouldn't take all that long to bridge the gap between building 200m structures (of which South Korea has loads) and building >300m structures, although obviously being more hesitant to build >500m structures is understandable. I don't know, maybe I'm just ignorant of the engineering challenges involved.

Even if it did take some time, I don't know why the government and private companies would hesitate to at least solicit supertall designs from Korean architecture firms and have other companies handle the reality of engineering them.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 06:11 AM   #1246
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ah cha san grand park officetel
easternside of seoul

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This article implies that there aren't many homegrown architectural firms within South Korea. It is possible that a Korean architectural firm may just copy a skyscraper design technology from another country, because it is really hard to come up with an original technology. This article could put us under the impression that countries really do have different skyscraper technologies. For example, a country may build its skyscrapers using either reinforced concrete or steel only, or both those materials (called "composite structure"). I hope a new thread about this is started.

'2011 World Architecture Top 100
korean architecture firm rank(i think it is controversial rank though)
samwoo 15
heerim 17위
jonglim19위
haeahn27위
I agreed maybe they have other new technology concern practical construction
though korea company not powerful ability in design but korea construction company world top class ability to built supertall/heavy industrial/dam/build whole city/nuclear plant etc
(samsung etc)
so i think they will combine practical ability with new material advanced technology in skyscraper
that is key point

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Well, first of all, I'm not gonna gratify Inno4321 by quoting him or offering a proper response. The only thing I'm gonna say is kuddos for insulting the entire community claiming that you were the only one ever providing valid information.

Bro I kindly modify your wrong information below.
This is just testing modifying If I check every single project not only in seoul but also korea then you will be stand? can u give more accurate in ssc?
need more?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post128892231
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Old November 27th, 2015, 09:05 AM   #1247
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nolagnjin fish market com

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Old November 27th, 2015, 09:12 AM   #1248
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subu t&d hotel amcor ambassador

20151116_113214 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

escalator ==> duty free hyundai(not hyundai motors)
20151116_113249 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
20151116_113252 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
20151116_113723 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
20151116_113725 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
20151116_121020 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
20151116_123019 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

akihabara of seoul LOL
20151116_123112 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서

that day I buying 2 tb outside hard storation and drive club ps4 cd
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Old November 27th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #1249
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oo uee light rail transit U/C

wooui light rail transit



4 station over ground

tunnel 2 area


5 station



circle air pumping tunnel

l13 station










http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?b...o=220391513655
11.8KM light rail transit over 70% progress

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Is that carpet flooring? Very rare to see that used on trains...

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Is that carpet flooring? Very rare to see that used on trains...
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Are you sure that the floor will be carpeted? As the carpet is covering the flex joint between cars and may well crumple up around corners.

Does Korea have the same mess of advertising inside of its metro trains that exists in Japan?
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I agree pretty sure the carpet is not part of the final product.

A while ago I call to company and they CONFIRM THAT CARPET included Real service.
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whichmean people walk on carpet
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Old November 28th, 2015, 05:48 PM   #1250
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copyright to http://blog.naver.com/boolloo1/220504765405

copyright to http://www.pholar.co/pic/143482/1462628



copyright to http://blog.naver.com/designsay/220541908806

recently completed
i dance in there a month ago
Sounds amazing cause dome ceiling cover whole space
best place for EDM festival
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Old November 29th, 2015, 01:30 PM   #1251
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yongsan prusio summit




copyright to 콩아(wjhl****)
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20151116_112444 by Inno Inno, Flickr에서
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Old November 30th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #1252
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old rendering
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youngsan green avenue project place
connected between YOUNGSAN IBD(oldone dismiss but 640M project ) and Yongsan national park(very huge)

Underground space will be make as 3fl city(SHINBUNDANGLINE station transfer/parking lot/small theater/hall for young people play etc)
Now prepare
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Old December 3rd, 2015, 08:28 AM   #1254
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Samsung Fire Insadong Hotel

A project four years in the making, Samsung Fire (& Marine Insurance) will build a new Hotel in Insadong, one of Seoul's most famous touristic area. Completion scheduled for 2018

The project was just approved yesterday by the city.

This will be an ensemble of fairly small buildings, but could be pretty nonetheless :
Buildings will be :
Floor count / Height
14 Floors / 50m
13 Floors / 45m
11 Floors / 41m
9 Floors / 35m
6 Floors / 25m
4 Floors / 18m

Here is the render I could find :


Lot :

http://news.tf.co.kr/read/economy/1608824.htm

Source : http://www.sporbiz.co.kr/news/articl...ml?idxno=24298
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Old December 4th, 2015, 07:02 AM   #1255
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Lotte New Stay

Lotte will launch around bustling areas of Seoul a new brand of residential building targeting people in their 20s or 30s. They will mostly be officetel, and relying on wolsae (rent) rather than the traditional jeonsae (huge deposit but no rent) which is losing steam.

The first three such buildings will be built in Sinseoldong, Mollaedong and Gasandong by 2018.

Here are the renders for Sinseoldong :

http://m.mt.co.kr/renew/view.html?no...16315247418&ca=

and Gasandong

http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin...109400003.HTML

I didn't find a render for the Mollaedong building.

By 2020, Lotte also plans to extend New Stay to the Mapo, Seocho and Gangnam district.

Source : http://m.mt.co.kr/renew/view.html?no...16315247418&ca=
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copyright to 한국지역정보개발원
korea electronic government tower U/C
beginning last years so now almost com.

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and Gasandong

http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/bulletin...109400003.HTML

I didn't find a render for the Mollaedong building.

By 2020, Lotte also plans to extend New Stay to the Mapo, Seocho and Gangnam district.

Source : http://m.mt.co.kr/renew/view.html?no...16315247418&ca=

THAT TOWER IS located on my home town
which are "Fusi film company"'s site.
btw lotte invest some money n many project on my home town.
that project important cause it is first "rental business" by DAEGIUP(big company)
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copyright to 한국지역정보개발원
korea electronic government tower U/C
beginning last years so now almost com.
Yes, that building is now topped out and scheduled for a January opening.
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Where is this located?
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Where is this located?
Korean address : 서울특별시 마포구 상암동 1595
English address : 1595, Sangamdong, Mapo-gu, Seoul

This is in the middle of Digital Media City between the MBC HQ and the Samsung SDS building
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189 gaepo dong, gangnam gu,

rebuild

35fl, 3256 houses..
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