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spellbound · February 14th, 2011, 09:51 AM

Boston has pretty well established they're still the best in the East going 3-0 versus the Heat this year but I don't think any of that will be a huge factor in the playoffs (assuming they meet each other, which seems almost inevitable).

The one troubling thing with the Heat, however, is that they're only something like 1-7 versus the top 5 teams in the league this year (the one win being that game against the Lakers on Christmas). Obviously, that would have to change if they are to win a title.

Endeavor305 · February 14th, 2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by massp88

Like it or not, Boston is the team to beat in the East. This was a big loss as Boston has already won the season series, so if both Miami and Boston have the same record, Boston gets the higher seed. If Boston has home court advantage, I would say there's a better chance of getting 5 feet of snow on South Beach than beating Boston.

Also, Boston is not dirty nor are they whiners. We have one of the biggest whiners in the league....his name is LeBron.

Never said Boston wasn't the team to beat. The loss Sunday could be costly if it comes down to a tie breaker. However, I expect the Heat to pull away down the stretch simply because they play more home games and have the softer schedule after the all star break. It's looking very likely that the two teams will meet again in the playoffs. At that time, the 0-3 regular season record means nothing.

Hia-leah JDM · February 14th, 2011, 11:55 AM

No at the time it actually means a lot. They're the better team. Hopefully in the playoffs they'll make that 0-3 record irrelevant.

spellbound · March 4th, 2011, 06:05 AM

Man, that was one embarrassing effort tonight. 24-point lead blown (at home, no less) and yet another loss to a quality opponent.

I'm really starting to wonder about you, Heat. Hope it's a different story come playoff time.

Endeavor305 · March 4th, 2011, 06:16 AM

I have never in my life experienced such frustration with a team nor have I ever seen such a talented team underperform like they have. I'm totally embarassed and quite frankly don't care what they do from now on. As of now, this Miami Heat team is perhaps the biggest bust in professional sports history.

Hia-leah JDM · March 4th, 2011, 07:29 AM

You really are a Miami sports fan huh...

Please don't show up on Biscayne Boulevard in June.

Endeavor305 · March 4th, 2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hia-leah JDM

You really are a Miami sports fan huh...

Please don't show up on Biscayne Boulevard in June.

It is because of my fandomness that I say such irrational things after such a frustrating loss. No matter how many heartbreaks I endure, I will always care even though sometimes I get upset and say otherwise. If there is a parade in June I will be there whether you like it or not.

Hia-leah JDM · March 4th, 2011, 07:46 AM

I was just dealing with 5 of you. Although they did refrain from saying some of the more ridiculous things you said. But I do get the frustration and downright anger, there's just too much chronic bandwagoning in this town.
The past week has been the absolute worst though. Especially if you for some particular reason hang out with more than an acceptable amount of obnoxious Knicks fans. But I still manage to see a dot of light at the end of the tunnel.

spellbound · March 4th, 2011, 08:14 AM

Hey, we sports fans can be irrational at times. Comes with the territory. You should see how I get with the Dolphins.

I'm not giving up by ANY stretch. It's just that the Heat has lost consistently enough to the better teams to cause real concern. And needless to say, a loss like this one leaves a real sour taste.

massp88 · March 4th, 2011, 08:06 PM

The Heat are 14-16 against teams with a .500 record or better....that's pretty sad.

You also know it's sad when Chris Bosh is crying at the post game press conference.

massp88 · March 4th, 2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hia-leah JDM

I was just dealing with 5 of you. Although they did refrain from saying some of the more ridiculous things you said. But I do get the frustration and downright anger, there's just too much chronic bandwagoning in this town.
The past week has been the absolute worst though. Especially if you for some particular reason hang out with more than an acceptable amount of obnoxious Knicks fans. But I still manage to see a dot of light at the end of the tunnel.

The Knicks are 13 games back of Boston in their division and are currently battling hard to hold onto the 6th seed in the East and receive as much if not more attention than Boston and Chicago. There's something wrong with that.

spellbound · March 5th, 2011, 12:31 PM

First of all, I must need to have my head examined to come home from work and watch a replay of Heat/Spurs in the middle of the night when I already knew the score. My bad.

But still...when you care you'll torture yourself, too, y'know? And if I could stay loyal to Heat teams that went 15-67 or the Dolphins at 1-15 or the abortion that was the Marlins going from first to worst after their first title (not to mention the Panthers last making the NHL playoffs during the Calvin Coolidge administration) then I can certainly retain that loyalty to the most talent-blessed lineup in Miami professional sports history.

That said, absolutely disgusting "effort." No problem losing at San Antonio---they're the NBA's best team---but losing by 30 to them (after being down by an almost impossibly ludicrous 24 in the FIRST quarter) is just total garbage.

Does this team even realize that people are starting to LAUGH at them? It was a given they'd be hated and derided, but the hope was they'd be SO good it wouldn't matter.

That's not what's happening. They've not just been beatable against good teams but downright bitch-slappable. Honestly, I'm shocked.

Believe me, I KNOW they have the capability to get it going. Haven't given up on anything, including a title. LeBron couldn't possibly be this soft in the playoffs, could he? Guys like Miller, Bibby, and the soon-to-return Udonis Haslem have GOT to help, right?

I just know they better get it going, pronto, because this last week has been downright embarrassing for any Heat fan (and hopefully for the Heat themselves).

Chicago is a good, young team coming into the AAA Sunday. I want to see the Heat do to them---angrily---the same kind of ass kicking they got in San Antonio.

That would be a start.

Endeavor305 · March 5th, 2011, 05:13 PM

I've pretty much had it with them. I didn't watch the game nor have I looked to watch any highlights of it. I'll tell you what I did do... I bet on the Spurs last night. I also went to www.firespo.com and voted, again (only one per day). I feel strongly about our head coach being inadequate. Have so from the beginning, but did get fooled into thinking maybe I was wrong after the December run. Turns out I was right since our December run came against weak teams. When you are 1-8 versus the "elite" teams with the talent you have, it's the coaches fault. Take the Orlando game for instance. We were up by 24 in the 2nd half and we allow them to do the only thing they can do to make it a game... shoot 3's. Instead of putting defenders across the 3 point perimeter he continues to double team Howard. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Hack Howard and make him make 2 free throws. Even if he makes both, it's only 2 points and not 3!

Notice when you watch the games how Spoelstra just looks lost. Also notice how many times Ron Rohnstein has to tell him or remind him of something. I've noticed on many occasions that Rohnstein or one of the other assistants has to point something out for him. There was one game where McAdoo screamed at Spoelstra. Not saying I could do better, but I'm not trying to coach. Spoelstra's just not cut out for this job.

massp88 · March 5th, 2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Endeavor305

I've pretty much had it with them. I didn't watch the game nor have I looked to watch any highlights of it. I'll tell you what I did do... I bet on the Spurs last night. I also went to www.firespo.com and voted, again (only one per day). I feel strongly about our head coach being inadequate. Have so from the beginning, but did get fooled into thinking maybe I was wrong after the December run. Turns out I was right since our December run came against weak teams. When you are 1-8 versus the "elite" teams with the talent you have, it's the coaches fault. Take the Orlando game for instance. We were up by 24 in the 2nd half and we allow them to do the only thing they can do to make it a game... shoot 3's. Instead of putting defenders across the 3 point perimeter he continues to double team Howard. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Hack Howard and make him make 2 free throws. Even if he makes both, it's only 2 points and not 3!

Notice when you watch the games how Spoelstra just looks lost. Also notice how many times Ron Rohnstein has to tell him or remind him of something. I've noticed on many occasions that Rohnstein or one of the other assistants has to point something out for him. There was one game where McAdoo screamed at Spoelstra. Not saying I could do better, but I'm not trying to coach. Spoelstra's just not cut out for this job.

Sorry, I don't buy the blame the coach thing as the sole reason for their recent woes. Blame the players. They made huge moves and had a ton of expectations. They have looked deflated and flat our weak in games involving good teams that pose match up issues. Yes the coach can be part of the blame, but in the NBA it's always the coach doesn't matter that much. Hence all the flack Phil Jackson takes when people say he either inherited a great team or had the luxury of having great players.

Good teams don't blow 24 point second half leads. Period.

Endeavor305 · March 6th, 2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by massp88

Good teams don't blow 24 point second half leads. Period.

Some blame to players, but most goes to the coach in this case. Spoelstra has made plenty of mistakes. You may have your opinion, but I will continue to trust my two eyes.

zzibit · March 9th, 2011, 09:44 PM

what a bunch of crybabies!

man up, their drama is so pathetic

spellbound · March 9th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Well, athletes crying isn't anything really new or notable. You can be certain that players on any team you have ever rooted for have done the same on occassion. The problem is that Spoelstra really shouldn't have mentioned it since the public reaction is predictable (and, frankly, silly).

All that said, the Heat is in full meltdown mode right now and shouldn't be surprised at the criticism and ridicule they're getting. This team could go into the playoffs as a #3 or 4 seed...not what was expected at all.

Endeavor305 · March 10th, 2011, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spellbound

Well, athletes crying isn't anything really new or notable. You can be certain that players on any team you have ever rooted for have done the same on occassion. The problem is that Spoelstra really shouldn't have mentioned it since the public reaction is predictable (and, frankly, silly).

All that said, the Heat is in full meltdown mode right now and shouldn't be surprised at the criticism and ridicule they're getting. This team could go into the playoffs as a #3 or 4 seed...not what was expected at all.

Yea, but Miami still has #1 seed banner

Aceventura · March 10th, 2011, 08:25 AM

Ha! Look at that! #1 by a wide margin! Good job Q!

spellbound · March 10th, 2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Endeavor305

Yea, but Miami still has #1 seed banner

This is true.

(but I still want multiple NBA titles!)

March 4th, 2011, 06:16 AM	#245
Endeavor305 Registered Fool Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,521 Likes (Received): 20	I have never in my life experienced such frustration with a team nor have I ever seen such a talented team underperform like they have. I'm totally embarassed and quite frankly don't care what they do from now on. As of now, this Miami Heat team is perhaps the biggest bust in professional sports history. __________________ It's never too late.

March 5th, 2011, 05:13 PM	#253
Endeavor305 Registered Fool Join Date: May 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,521 Likes (Received): 20	I've pretty much had it with them. I didn't watch the game nor have I looked to watch any highlights of it. I'll tell you what I did do... I bet on the Spurs last night. I also went to www.firespo.com and voted, again (only one per day). I feel strongly about our head coach being inadequate. Have so from the beginning, but did get fooled into thinking maybe I was wrong after the December run. Turns out I was right since our December run came against weak teams. When you are 1-8 versus the "elite" teams with the talent you have, it's the coaches fault. Take the Orlando game for instance. We were up by 24 in the 2nd half and we allow them to do the only thing they can do to make it a game... shoot 3's. Instead of putting defenders across the 3 point perimeter he continues to double team Howard. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Hack Howard and make him make 2 free throws. Even if he makes both, it's only 2 points and not 3! Notice when you watch the games how Spoelstra just looks lost. Also notice how many times Ron Rohnstein has to tell him or remind him of something. I've noticed on many occasions that Rohnstein or one of the other assistants has to point something out for him. There was one game where McAdoo screamed at Spoelstra. Not saying I could do better, but I'm not trying to coach. Spoelstra's just not cut out for this job. __________________ It's never too late.

March 10th, 2011, 08:25 AM	#259
Aceventura Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 1,236 Likes (Received): 8	Ha! Look at that! #1 by a wide margin! Good job Q! __________________ "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." - Yogi Berra

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February 14th, 2011, 09:51 AM	#241
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,130 Likes (Received): 27	Boston has pretty well established they're still the best in the East going 3-0 versus the Heat this year but I don't think any of that will be a huge factor in the playoffs (assuming they meet each other, which seems almost inevitable). The one troubling thing with the Heat, however, is that they're only something like 1-7 versus the top 5 teams in the league this year (the one win being that game against the Lakers on Christmas). Obviously, that would have to change if they are to win a title.

February 14th, 2011, 11:55 AM	#243
Hia-leah JDM Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,794 Likes (Received): 35	No at the time it actually means a lot. They're the better team. Hopefully in the playoffs they'll make that 0-3 record irrelevant.

March 4th, 2011, 06:05 AM	#244
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,130 Likes (Received): 27	Man, that was one embarrassing effort tonight. 24-point lead blown (at home, no less) and yet another loss to a quality opponent. I'm really starting to wonder about you, Heat. Hope it's a different story come playoff time.

March 4th, 2011, 07:29 AM	#246
Hia-leah JDM Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,794 Likes (Received): 35	You really are a Miami sports fan huh... Please don't show up on Biscayne Boulevard in June.

March 4th, 2011, 07:46 AM	#248
Hia-leah JDM Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,794 Likes (Received): 35	I was just dealing with 5 of you. Although they did refrain from saying some of the more ridiculous things you said. But I do get the frustration and downright anger, there's just too much chronic bandwagoning in this town. The past week has been the absolute worst though. Especially if you for some particular reason hang out with more than an acceptable amount of obnoxious Knicks fans. But I still manage to see a dot of light at the end of the tunnel.

March 4th, 2011, 08:14 AM	#249
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,130 Likes (Received): 27	Hey, we sports fans can be irrational at times. Comes with the territory. You should see how I get with the Dolphins. I'm not giving up by ANY stretch. It's just that the Heat has lost consistently enough to the better teams to cause real concern. And needless to say, a loss like this one leaves a real sour taste.

March 4th, 2011, 08:06 PM	#250
massp88 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,183 Likes (Received): 0	The Heat are 14-16 against teams with a .500 record or better....that's pretty sad. You also know it's sad when Chris Bosh is crying at the post game press conference.

March 5th, 2011, 12:31 PM	#252
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,130 Likes (Received): 27	First of all, I must need to have my head examined to come home from work and watch a replay of Heat/Spurs in the middle of the night when I already knew the score. My bad. But still...when you care you'll torture yourself, too, y'know? And if I could stay loyal to Heat teams that went 15-67 or the Dolphins at 1-15 or the abortion that was the Marlins going from first to worst after their first title (not to mention the Panthers last making the NHL playoffs during the Calvin Coolidge administration) then I can certainly retain that loyalty to the most talent-blessed lineup in Miami professional sports history. That said, absolutely disgusting "effort." No problem losing at San Antonio---they're the NBA's best team---but losing by 30 to them (after being down by an almost impossibly ludicrous 24 in the FIRST quarter) is just total garbage. Does this team even realize that people are starting to LAUGH at them? It was a given they'd be hated and derided, but the hope was they'd be SO good it wouldn't matter. That's not what's happening. They've not just been beatable against good teams but downright bitch-slappable. Honestly, I'm shocked. Believe me, I KNOW they have the capability to get it going. Haven't given up on anything, including a title. LeBron couldn't possibly be this soft in the playoffs, could he? Guys like Miller, Bibby, and the soon-to-return Udonis Haslem have GOT to help, right? I just know they better get it going, pronto, because this last week has been downright embarrassing for any Heat fan (and hopefully for the Heat themselves). Chicago is a good, young team coming into the AAA Sunday. I want to see the Heat do to them---angrily---the same kind of ass kicking they got in San Antonio. That would be a start.

March 9th, 2011, 09:44 PM	#256
zzibit Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,624 Likes (Received): 20	what a bunch of crybabies! man up, their drama is so pathetic

March 9th, 2011, 09:51 PM	#257
spellbound Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: philly/miami Posts: 6,130 Likes (Received): 27	Well, athletes crying isn't anything really new or notable. You can be certain that players on any team you have ever rooted for have done the same on occassion. The problem is that Spoelstra really shouldn't have mentioned it since the public reaction is predictable (and, frankly, silly). All that said, the Heat is in full meltdown mode right now and shouldn't be surprised at the criticism and ridicule they're getting. This team could go into the playoffs as a #3 or 4 seed...not what was expected at all.