English Premier league 2011 / 2012

[yoshef]

spelling standards have really slipped since Oswald Mosley's days eh?

[JD47]

Originally Posted by JimB

No team is going to go from where Liverpool are to winning the title in the space of twelve months. Not a chance.

Sure, Liverpool will spend a bit of money; buy a few new players. But so will all the other candidates - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle and Spurs. Liverpool might, with a fair wind, be able to catch and pass one or two of them. But City AND Utd as well? No way.

It can happen Jim. I am not saying it will but it can. Remember Liverpool finished 2nd and then the nexy year 7th. That was a huge drop in twelve months so why cant there be a huge leap in twelve months. With a few new signings in the summer we could go for a title challenge but KD has to make the right signings and sell the underperforming players. I am not saying it will happen but just saying that it is not impossible.

[Khattab1]

Originally Posted by Dragoona

well thatcher was pm last time your bunch of gippos won it

Gippos how original.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by JD47

It can happen Jim. I am not saying it will but it can. Remember Liverpool finished 2nd and then the nexy year 7th. That was a huge drop in twelve months so why cant there be a huge leap in twelve months. With a few new signings in the summer we could go for a title challenge but KD has to make the right signings and sell the underperforming players. I am not saying it will happen but just saying that it is not impossible.

Yes, it is theoretically possible for a team to win the title from a lowly position the previous season. After all, the likes of Spurs and Nottingham Forest have, in the past, won the title immediately following promotion to the First Division.

But football has changed since those days. It's a feat that is unlikely to be repeated.

If Liverpool looked like a team that had taken its time to gel, started the season badly and then finished it in flying form, then there might be reason for genuine hope. But they haven't been flying at all. Their league form in the second half of the season has been dire - almost relegation material. There is no sense of a team on the cusp of great things.

That's not to say that Liverpool won't improve next season. Just that they won't improve enough in so short a time to erase the massive gap of 34 points (as things stand) between them and the champions - especially since Man City, in particular, are likely to make even bigger improvements.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Khattab1

Gippos how original.

Given that you have previously, on SSC, described the Queen as a "german bitch" and referred to Israelis as "Jewbergs", getting on your high horse seems more than a tad hypocritical.

[albionfagan]

Originally Posted by siberian dreamer

Best final weekend in recent memory for me. Best league in the world.

Have a day off.

The German league had 6 possible winners a couple of years back. My school area league was really competitive, doesn't make it a good standard of football.

[JD47]

Originally Posted by albionfagan

Have a day off.

The German league had 6 possible winners a couple of years back. My school area league was really competitive, doesn't make it a good standard of football.

I dont think he was talking about the standard of the football but more the excitement and crazy finish to the league campaign.

[JD47]

Originally Posted by MackDaddy

I cannot believe JD and yoshef are jubilating over beating chelsea 4-1.....guys we won the most important game on saturday ....look at the team you beat yesterday....look at the goalie alone .....we have a bigger team to play ....bayern munich not Loserpool FC....The icing on the cake is winning the champions league....not only being champions of europe but also getting in the tournament next year!!!!!

You better hope that you win the Champions League now because if you dont I will never let you live it down on here ever again.

[Khattab1]

Originally Posted by JimB

Given that you have previously, on SSC, described the Queen as a "german bitch" and referred to Israelis as "Jewbergs", getting on your high horse seems more than a tad hypocritical.

All factual references the queen is of german heritage and jews are called jews and berg being the most common surname name for them.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Khattab1

All factual references the queen is of german heritage and jews are called jews and berg being the most common surname name for them.

Yes, the Queen does have some German ancestry. But only someone who has a problem with that would highlight it and, just for good measure, pair it with the epithet "bitch".

And yes, most Israelis are Jews and -berg is the commonest of endings for Jewish surnames. But only an anti-semite would refer to Israelis by the pejorative "Jewbergs".

So I repeat, you getting uppity about someone else's use of "gippo" is more than a tad hypocritical.

[Veinticinco]

Originally Posted by JimB

There is no sense of a team on the cusp of great things.

Not sure about that Jim.

We've had 4 or 5 poor performances this season but we've largely played very good pass and move football and this team has looked very dangerous at times. I saw a statistic a while ago from Optastats showing that Liverpool were at or around the top of the charts for a surprising number of stats such as chances created, time spent in opposition half (amazingly we were 2nd in Europe after Barca), tighest defence in the league (only bettered by the 2 Manc teams I think) but the not-very surprising stat was that we were dead bottom of the table for the percentage of chances converted. It's almost exclusively been poor finishing that has cost us this season.

It's telling that if all shots that hit the woodwork from all teams this season had gone in, Liverpool would be playing Champions League football next season. That being said, hitting the woodwork is technically a shot off target and again can be put down to poor finishing. We just desperately need to improve our finishing! The amount of times we've squandered one-on-one chances after great through-balls, sky'd the ball from three feet out and missed penalties (67% not scored!) is heart breaking.

The build up play, possession-based football, huge amount of chances created and very solid defence we've seen under Kenny has kept me hoping that this team could come good. Very good in fact.

I'm not saying we're going to win the league next year but as somebody who has watched every game in full this season rather than just Match of the Day highlights I'd have to say that we have shown signs that we could be in amongst the top four next year and the stats (damned lies - I know) back that up.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by Veinticinco

Not sure about that Jim.

We've had 4 or 5 poor performances this season but we've largely played very good pass and move football and this team has looked very dangerous at times. I saw a statistic a while ago from Optastats showing that Liverpool were at or around the top of the charts for a surprising number of stats such as chances created, time spent in opposition half (amazingly we were 2nd in Europe after Barca), tighest defence in the league (only bettered by the 2 Manc teams I think) but the not-very surprising stat was that we were dead bottom of the table for the percentage of chances converted. It's almost exclusively been poor finishing that has cost us this season.

It's telling that if all shots that hit the woodwork from all teams this season had gone in, Liverpool would be playing Champions League football next season. That being said, hitting the woodwork is technically a shot off target and again can be put down to poor finishing. We just desperately need to improve our finishing! The amount of times we've squandered one-on-one chances after great through-balls, sky'd the ball from three feet out and missed penalties (67% not scored!) is heart breaking.

The build up play, possession-based football, huge amount of chances created and very solid defence we've seen under Kenny has kept me hoping that this team could come good. Very good in fact.

I'm not saying we're going to win the league next year but as somebody who has watched every game in full this season rather than just Match of the Day highlights I'd have to say that we have shown signs that we could be in amongst the top four next year and the stats (damned lies - I know) back that up.

I don't doubt that for a second.

It's the leap from where you are now to being Champions within twelve months that I believe to be completely unrealistic. Delusional, even!

In two, three or four years, and with a fair wind.......who knows? But next season? Nah.

[eddyk]

Originally Posted by MackDaddy

I cannot believe JD and yoshef are jubilating over beating chelsea 4-1.....guys we won the most important game on saturday ....look at the team you beat yesterday....look at the goalie alone .....we have a bigger team to play ....bayern munich not Loserpool FC....The icing on the cake is winning the champions league....not only being champions of europe but also getting in the tournament next year!!!!!

Well, good luck with that.

[eddyk]

Predictions...

Chelsea V Blackburn (1-2)

Everton V Newcastle (1-0)

Man City V QPR (6-0)

Norwich V Aston Villa (0-0)

Stoke V Bolton (1-1)

Sunderland V Man Utd (0-4)

Swansea V Liverpool (0-2)

Tottenham V Fulham (2-0)

West Brom V Arsenal (0-3)

Wigan V Wolves (1-0)

[bigchrisfgb]

Predictions:

Chelsea V Blackburn (3-0)

Everton V Newcastle (1-2)

Man City V QPR (3-0)

Norwich V Aston Villa (1-1)

Stoke V Bolton (1-1)

Sunderland V Man Utd (0-3)

Swansea V Liverpool (1-2)

Tottenham V Fulham (1-1)

West Brom V Arsenal (0-3)

Wigan V Wolves (2-0)

[WatcherZero]

Predictions:

Chelsea V Blackburn (4-1)

Everton V Newcastle (3-2)

Man City V QPR (4-0)

Norwich V Aston Villa (2-2)

Stoke V Bolton (2-1)

Sunderland V Man Utd (0-4)

Swansea V Liverpool (1-3)

Tottenham V Fulham (1-2)

West Brom V Arsenal (0-3)

Wigan V Wolves (3-1)

[eddyk]

Well...

I predict Chelsea will field a severely weakened team as they prepare of the CL final.
While Blackburn who have nothing to play for will go hammer and tong to restore some pride.

[eddyk]

Blackburn have beaten Arsenal and Man Uniteds first teams this year.

Relegated teams normally go all out on the last day.

[eddyk]

If you do crush them it'll be your last bit of joy this season.

[JD47]

Originally Posted by MackDaddy

Blackburn will be crushed on sunday adding insult to injury

Do you think this Chelsea team are the greatest team to have ever walked the earth or something. I say Blackburn will beat you this weekend as you say adding insult to injury.