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Old June 19th, 2011, 02:28 AM   #1
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Demographics of Macedonia | Демографија

ова се податоци за 2009 година
од завод за статистика уште не искочиле за 2010 а кога ќе искочат ќе ги постирам тука
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''Makedonci''


Skopje 3417/3495

Aerodrom 722/521
Butel 257/210
Gazi Baba 532/529
Djorde Petrov 330/333
Karpos 507/572
Kisela Voda 526/543
Saraj 15/20
Centar 391/532
Cair 120/214
Suto Orizari 17/21


Aracinovo 4/5
Berovo 113/142
Bitola 760/1027
Bogdanci 61/103
Bogovinje 0/1
Bosilovo 121/147
Brvenica 64/88
Valandovo 93/83
Vasilevo 129/90
Vevcani 24/29
Veles 420/538
Vinica 153/158
Vranestica 6/22
Vrapciste 10/13
Djevdjelija 258/235
Gostivar 151/165
Gradsko 29/35
Debar 10/13
Debarca 26/102
Delcevo 117/162
Demir Kapija 31/52
Demir Hisar 69/154
Dojran 31/38
Dolneni 42/89
Drugovo 20/54
Zelino 0/5
Zajas 1/8
Zelenikovo 31/27
Zrnovci 21/43
Ilinden 61/111
Jegunovce 47/86
Kavadarci 325/347
Karbinci 28/49
Kicevo 134/147
Konce 25/31
Kocani 324/369
Kratovo 69/106
Kriva Palanka 192/200
Krivogastani 46/78
Krusevo 56/78
Kumanovo 726/691
Lipkovo 6/3
Lozovo 14/21
Mavrovo i Rostusa 10/23
Makedonska Kamenica 68/59
Makedonski Brod 66/107
Mogila 58/95
Negotino 172/148
Novaci 29/77
Novo Selo 77/122
Oslomej 0/7
Ohrid 491/541
Petrovec 50/40
Pehcevo 32/64
Plasnica 0/5
Prilep 646/904
Probistip 145/192
Radovis 267/236
Rankovce 39/46
Resen 86/187
Rosoman 46/46
Sveti Nikole 168/189
Sopiste 32/44
Staro Nagoricane 34/94
Struga 204/238
Strumica 567/487
Studenicani 8/3
Tearce 27/44
Tetovo 188/234
Centar Zupa 4/2
Caska 37/67
Cesinovo- Oblesevo 61/107
Cucer Sandevo 60/44
Stip 439/440




Albanci


Skopje 2030/656

Aerodrom 24/18
Butel 206/60
Gazi Baba 232/76
Djorde Petrov 36/11
Karpos 34/15
Kisela Voda 5/10
Saraj 602/165
Centar 97/31
Cair 712/235
Suto Orizari 82/35


Aracinovo 220/41
Berovo 0/0
Bitola 79/36
Bogdanci 0/0
Bogovinje 323/218
Bosilovo 2/0
Brvenica 131/59
Valandovo 4/0
Vasilevo 1/0
Vevcani 0/0
Veles 72/16
Vinica 0/0
Vranestica 0/0
Vrapciste 255/138
Djevdjelija 1/1
Gostivar 486/322
Gradsko 2/2
Debar 108/65
Debarca 0/0
Delcevo 0/0
Demir Kapija 5/0
Demir Hisar 12/3
Dojran 0/0
Dolneni 85/23
Drugovo 2/0
Zelino 404/122
Zajas 62/59
Zelenikovo 42/7
Zrnovci 0/0
Ilinden 8/0
Jegunovce 62/23
Kavadarci 8/0
Karbinci 0/0
Kicevo 56/48
Konce 3/0
Kocani 0/0
Kratovo 1/0
Kriva Palanka 0/0
Krivogastani 13/0
Krusevo 61/13
Kumanovo 430/124
Lipkovo 353/126
Lozovo 1/0
Mavrovo i Rostusa 18/14
Makedonska Kamenica 0/0
Makedonski Brod 9/0
Mogila 16/1
Negotino 6/0
Novaci 8/1
Novo Selo 0/0
Oslomej 52/58
Ohrid 40/14
Petrovec 45/11
Pehcevo 0/0
Plasnica 5/0
Prilep 58/3
Probistip 2/0
Radovis 5/1
Rankovce 0/0
Resen 17/21
Rosoman 4/0
Sveti Nikole 1/0
Sopiste 31/8
Staro Nagoricane 1/0
Struga 276/171
Strumica 6/3
Studenicani 289/59
Tearce 184/108
Tetovo 831/417
Centar Zupa 1/6
Caska 95/14
Cesinovo- Oblesevo 0/0
Cucer Sandevo 95/11
Stip 0/0




Romi

Skopje 701/200

Aerodrom 17/5
Butel 10/4
Gazi Baba 69/16
Djorde Petrov 38/9
Karpos 33/2
Kisela Voda 30/3
Saraj 10/2
Centar 61/12
Cair 90/15
Suto Orizari 343/132


Aracinovo 0/0
Berovo 7/1
Bitola 113/0
Bogdanci 0/0
Bogovinje 0/0
Bosilovo 0/0
Brvenica 0/0
Valandovo 0/0
Vasilevo 2/0
Vevcani 0/0
Veles 47/11
Vinica 40/7
Vranestica 0/0
Vrapciste 1/0
Djevdjelija 2/1
Gostivar 65/10
Gradsko 10/1
Debar 27/13
Debarca 0/0
Delcevo 14/10
Demir Kapija 2/0
Demir Hisar 0/0
Dojran 2/0
Dolneni 1/1
Drugovo 1/0
Zelino 0/0
Zajas 0/0
Zelenikovo 2/1
Zrnovci 1/0
Ilinden 15/7
Jegunovce 0/1
Kavadarci 42/4
Karbinci 0/0
Kicevo 52/12
Konce 0/0
Kocani 60/15
Kratovo 5/1
Kriva Palanka 14/4
Krivogastani 0/0
Krusevo 0/1
Kumanovo 142/27
Lipkovo 0/0
Lozovo 0/0
Mavrovo i Rostusa 0/0
Makedonska Kamenica 0/0
Makedonski Brod 0/0
Mogila 0/0
Negotino 15/4
Novaci 0/0
Novo Selo 0/1
Oslomej 0/0
Ohrid 6/2
Petrovec 13/1
Pehcevo 6/3
Plasnica 1/0
Prilep 154/30
Probistip 4/0
Radovis 6/4
Rankovce 1/0
Resen 11/7
Rosoman 2/0
Sveti Nikole 3/0
Sopiste 0/0
Staro Nagoricane 0/1
Struga 10/1
Strumica 2/0
Studenicani 5/1
Tearce 0/2
Tetovo 47/19
Centar Zupa 0/0
Caska 0/0
Cesinovo- Oblesevo 0/0
Cucer Sandevo 0/2
Stip 84/27

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Old August 13th, 2011, 05:06 PM   #2
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Are all statistical data presentes according to different ethnic lines or is it just this table of information?

Btw, I notices that there was three times more Albanians born in comparing to the number of the ones who dies, while the number of born/late Macedonians was almost the same.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 06:30 PM   #3
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FijuBriju mire se erdhe!
Posti jot jep nje perstypje lavdrimi dhe duket sikur eshte pun inati! Nuk eshte mir sepse kto ,,inate,, mund te rrisin tensionet ne Maqedoni...

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Old August 13th, 2011, 06:36 PM   #4
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Mire se te gjeta my city. Jo, apak fare nuk kisha per qellim te lavderohem, nese e ke fjalen per theksimin e numrit te lindje/vdekjeve tek dy komunitetet perkatese, thjesht ishte vetem nje observim.

Pershendetje edhe ty .
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Old August 14th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #5
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Are all statistical data presentes according to different ethnic lines or is it just this table of information?

Btw, I notices that there was three times more Albanians born in comparing to the number of the ones who dies, while the number of born/late Macedonians was almost the same.
it is presented according to ethnic lines
births/deaths by municipality

all together

macedonians

born 12.490
died 14.332
-1.842

albanians

born 7454
died 3023
+4431

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Официјално според податоците на Државниот завод за статистика во текот на 2009 година биле родени 23.684 деца а во истата година починале 19.060, што значи населението било зголемено за 4624 лица. И во 2010 според податоците на ЦИА Македонија ќе забележи позитивен природен прираст, според овие податоци населението во нашата земја во текот на 2010 година било зголемено за 0.25 проценти.

Но доколку се анализира морталитетот и наталитетот на етничките заедници посебно, може да се види, дека носител на природниот прираст се етничките заедници на нашата земја кои припаѓаат на исламската вероисповест.

Тоа го потврдуваат и податоците на Државниот завод за статистика според кои во 2009 година, од вкупниот број на родени, Македонци биле 12.490 а починале 14.332, што значи дека во таа година 1.842 Македонци повеќе починале отколку што се родиле. Истата година биле родени 7454 Албанци, а починале 3023, па така во 2009 година, бројот на Албанци се зголемил за 4431 жител. Освен кај Албанците зголемен природен прираст има и кај Турците и Ромите.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 09:23 PM   #6
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Vo Makedonija ziveat Makedonski gragani Amerikanski ustav imame , a etinickata pripadnost e pravo na sekoj graganin.Inace me interesira sto ima vrska ova so Sky Scrapers ili Oblakoderi i ubavi moderni zgradi?
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 10:48 PM   #7
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Vo Makedonija ziveat Makedonski gragani Amerikanski ustav imame , a etinickata pripadnost e pravo na sekoj graganin.Inace me interesira sto ima vrska ova so Sky Scrapers ili Oblakoderi i ubavi moderni zgradi?
што сакаше да кажеш со ова?
ја ги презентирам демографските текови во Македонија а ти тука солиш памет за тоа како секој има право да има етничка припадност,како уставот бил амерички...кој збори за тоа ?
тема за демографија има на секој форум!
има и многу други теми што имаат уште помалце врска с модерни згради...

во која држава не живеат граѓани на таа држава?
и каква врска има тоа со американскиот устав???
разликата меѓу македонскиот и американскиот устав како прво е од крајност во крајност...како второ, Македонија има државен систем -интеграција без асимилација!
во американскиот устав,Америка е држава на амеиканскиот народ додека во македонскиот устав Македонија е држава на Македонците,Албанците,Ромите,Турците,Бошњаците,Србите и Власите.
во Македонија никој од заедниците не се осеќа прво како македонец па после како друго...постојат етнички партии,етнички блокови партии,етнички јазици на државно ниво...

немој да реплицираш,да остане темата за што е наменета

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Old August 22nd, 2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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старосна структура по вероисповест

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2002 година

0-4
Pravoslavni 63.229
Muslimani 57.208

5-9
Pravoslavni 73.384
Muslimani 67.227

10-14
Pravoslavni 86.952
Muslimani 70.443

15-19
Pravoslavni 98.253
Muslimani 64.232
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Old September 9th, 2011, 12:48 AM   #11
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PLEASE, stay on topic.
If you decided to ignore and tolerate people (I'd use another term, but I don't need to) like the one that opened this thread, then be prepared NOT to delete mine or other posts that adequately answer the garbage he is trying to propagate here.

And can you please explain to us all WHAT IS THE TOPIC HERE..?
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This is a thread about demographic data. I deleted the unnecessary posts and now it is clean of provocations. I don't see "garbage" but articles on topic, so I can't understand what is your problem!?


PS: Don't answer me here, because these posts will be deleted as well.
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The topic is a problem! It shows ethnical intolerance and hateriot and it has nothing to do with SKYSCRAPERS.By the way the member that open it has a picture of a Bulgarian flag over Macedonian theritory.He also speaks bad about muslims and he sends private messeges to many members here insulting them and he talks about Bulgaria and Albania deviding Macedonia during the EU and NATO blockade by Greece or something like that!
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Old April 4th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #14
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FijuBriju mire se erdhe!
Posti jot jep nje perstypje lavdrimi dhe duket sikur eshte pun inati! Nuk eshte mir sepse kto ,,inate,, mund te rrisin tensionet ne Maqedoni...

Shpresoj se nuk me kuptove keq, Pershendetje...
Je Shqiptar apo Maqedon ti?
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Old April 5th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #15
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Je Shqiptar apo Maqedon ti?
E shihni nuk keni gabuar, pa dyshim se ai ėshtė njeri.

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Шиптари ће да поједу целу Македонију:

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zivorodjeni / umrlih (prirodni prirastaj)

2005: 22 482 / 18 406 (4 076)
2006: 22 585 / 18 630 (3 955)
2007: 22 688 / 19 594 (3 094)
2008: 22 945 / 18 982 (3 963)
2009: 23 684 / 19 060 (4 624)
2010: 24 296 / 19 113 (5 183)
2011: 22 770 / 19 465 (3 305)

...

2011

Ukupno: 22.770 / 19.465 (3 305)

Makedonci: 11.544 / 14.409 (- 2.865)

Albanci: 7.727 / 3.198 (+ 4.529)

Romi: 1.574 / 495 (+ 1.079)

Turci: 1.046 / 474 (+ 572)

Bosnjaci: 213 / 105 (+ 107)

Srbi: 111 / 423 (- 312)

Vlasi: 22 / 70 (- 48)
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Hi from Greece. First, I would like to say that I am interested about the topic but at the same time wrong forum ?. Nothing to do with construction.

For the past year I have been studying our neighbors try to get a real picture every since the failed attempt a year ago to count how many pepople live in former yugoslav republic of fyrom today.

Seems like our neighbors but Serbs too has joined the global european mentality of living as most of the nation in europ shows negative trends more dies than new born. Nothing new in europe over the last 10-15 years, really.

Albanians clearly still live by the old balcan school.

Divorces has become very usual in f.y.r macedonia statistic shows that today divorces in fyr macedonia are as usual as in most of the EU nations. Many get married late and some not at all. Individualism of the 21 century. Negative birthe trend among our
neighbors started 5 yeras ago for the first time since 1946.

I made a lot of seeking and the statistics shows about 1.270.000 milion (30.000 less since 2002) 10.000 died and 20.000 moved abroad.

Albanians 527.000 (+21.000 since 2002) Abaout 40,000 new born but almost 20.000 did move abroad. Interesting that alnost as much Albanians moved abroad as our neighbors but yet only 1/3 of the population of our neighbors.

Since 2002 only slim % changes at both sides but eventually this will become a problem for our neighbors 30,40 or 50 years from now. But on the other hand Albanian youth one day might join the global europen 21 century of living.

Since the % changes are slim I tryd to investigatethe failed attempt a year ago to count poeple.

Leading party VMRO (hardcore party) claime that 100.000 Albanians abroad has wrongly been counted 2002. Political leading party at the time SDSM (more soft one) are responsible for the manipulation according to VMRO. VMRO did refuse to count them yeat again. Albanians not happy since they will fall from 527000 to 427.000.

Might be true might not be true.

All I know is that Ohrid agreement wos made among our neighbors and Albanians 2001 and is based on the % 25. A whole year before they counted poeple 2002.

As exampel I did discover that clear manipulations has been made with Skopje 2002. Mnicipalities Dracevo (50.000) and Petrovec (10.000) was bothe removed from Skopje yet they have always been part of Skopje, however, Kondovo did join Skopje yeat the small city is closer to Kosovo border than the city Skopje.

I figured out real % is 15% Albaniens in Skopje not 25%.

From the logic point of view it some like VMRO might telling the truthe here. I mean I can just sense it.

I am just looking for the truthe.

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Old November 10th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #18
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To the Greek friend.In Macedonia we have American constitution and there are Macedonian citizens living in Macedonia.All the citizens speak Macedonian and its obligatory to learn it.Ethnic groups have a right to respect their own heritage which is a Very EUROPEAN thing.Macedonian population is rising all the time and its doubled since 1944 when the modern Republic was established.You should be more concern about your country which is Bankrupt and specially human rights ,which are not respected in your country.
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ова се податоци за 2009 година
од завод за статистика уште не искочиле за 2010 а кога ќе искочат ќе ги постирам тука
иначе благодарност до Mrlje@ од BosnaHistorija за помошта околу прибирањето на податоците

тука е вклучен растот на главните етникуми
премногу замарање ќе требаше ако ги ставам и турците,босанците,власите,србите...

родени/умрени по општини
Turks?

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