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Old July 11th, 2011, 03:16 AM   #21
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I'am sorry, not quite correct.
The first aerial ropeway in a town/city was built
1929 at Barcelona (with a fabulous view to the World Exhibition)
or 1934 at Grenoble up to a hill inside the urban area
or 1974 at Kiel, Germany, across the harbour, from a commercial centre to its car park.
It is not so easy to define, what is an "urban" aerial ropeway.

Roosevelt Island Aerial Tram at New York started 1976.
I said for MASS TRANSIT!!!

There was an urban teleferic in Buenos Aires in 1910 also but as well as the one in Barcelona, it was touristic, not mass transit.

this look really postapocaliptic!!!
I wouldn't like the my gondola to fall appart in that mega shanty town!!!
I never imagined there was such a big favela in the whole world!

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Old July 11th, 2011, 05:58 AM   #22
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I said for MASS TRANSIT!!!

Roosevelt Island Cable Car is for public transportation, not tourism, primarily.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #23
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There's a website called www.gondolaproject.com that currently documents these types of systems.

Pretty in-depth analysis on cable propelled transit on various systems around the world including Medellin and Caracas (http://gondolaproject.com/2010/03/11...aracas-part-1/)

Also introduces the technology and the differences between gondolas, aerial tramways and etc. http://gondolaproject.com/2009/11/07...elled-transit/

The technology gets pretty complex!!
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Old July 13th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #24
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA145TPmyS8
The Ordu-Boztepe ropeway , a brand new system from northern Turkey city Ordu.
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Old July 14th, 2011, 12:49 AM   #25
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Tbilisi has started works on Rike Park- Narikala ropeway in the city center !!! Lengh will be 500 m.
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Old August 18th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #26
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the first..

The first urban aerial ropeway for mass transportation was: Bologhine-Notre Dame d'Afrique (122 m, 1948) at Algiers.

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The Ordu-Boztepe ropeway , a brand new system from northern Turkey city Ordu.
Is Boztepe a hill for recreation inside the urban area of ordu,
is the ropeway a touristic ropeway
or is it used for mass transit?
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Old August 20th, 2011, 06:25 PM   #28
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Zaragoza cable do not operate since this year. It was built for international exhibition in 2008 and kept working as a touristic resort... but it costs too much to keep it.

There is nothing decided about it... but one entreprise that has 50% of this infrastructure is which manage 5 sky resorts at Aragon (including the biggest Spanish ski resort)... and will not be difficult to move it from Zaragoza to any mountain.


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Old October 14th, 2011, 05:39 PM   #29
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there's different ways to look at urban systems:

1. gondolas that start in an urban location and go out of the city, like linea L in medellin or the one barcelona

2. then there's the gondolas that are in cities, but cost extra to ride or aren't linked to the transit network (that's how roosevelt island tram started - and that's what many tourist lines are like).

3. the first system that was fully urban and integrated - as in designed for commuters and used the same transit card - was in medellin - their first line Metrocable linea K
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A Gondola lift built by the Leitner-Poma group now spans the Complexo do Alemão allowing residents a faster commute.

Funny how your --uhm-- touristy line nary shows a commuter ... bunch of gawking rubbernecks without any supplementary safety cable at that! might just as well wonder what the IOC might have to say about that
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:16 AM   #31
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what do you mean supplementary safety cable? it's just a monocable system (mono, as in 1). still statistics seem to indicate it's one of the safest transit modes.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:57 PM   #32
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In the event of cable failure, 'fail-safe' cable-car systems possess at least one back-up cable. This one --along with other S American cable-car systems I've been noticing lately-- is strung with just a single cable.


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Before posting on either this thread or the Medellin one, I searched for cable-car images to which my results revealed pairs of supplementary cables, I can't readily find any such example today
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Old November 1st, 2011, 11:18 PM   #33
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thats a bicable system. they use two cables for additional support, and so that the system can span longer distances, not necessarily as a "back up safety cable". basically the top cable doesn't move (hence the why the cable car is running along it on wheels). and the lower cable is the one moving the cabins.

a monocable system uses one rope to do both things (propel the cabins and support them).

for the most part bicable systems aren't used much anymore. they cost more than a monocable system but without a lot of added benefits. and not necessarily safer at all.

there are, though, many redundancies within the system that makes it safe. such as back up brakes and engine.

now, if you want more cables ... check out the 3S system
this one's got more cables, more speed, more capacity
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:23 AM   #34
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There we go, that one's more the type + "redundancies" is the word I had in mind
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Six cable car routes planned for Makkah...

http://www.arabnews.com/%5Btermalias...planned-makkah

Have a look to http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1499836
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