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Old June 29th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #21
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Youre totally right about the necessity of providing adequate
ventilation. But what a lot of people don't
realize is that in most modern high rises the plate glass windows
are intentionally designed NOT to open.
And of course with young kids its debatable whether you want
them around any sort of window especially when unsupervised. In any case
high rise ventilation is accomplished with HVAC rather than cracking
the window open as a rule. But as with everything else in life theres no substitute
for experimentation. Couldn't you put up some thick black curtains in a few
test case bedrooms, create the sort of blackout conditions they
instituted in the WWII, and see how people fare with simulated sun equipment.
Psychologically I think the main thing is that light level is an indication of
time of day, its primary connection with and impact on the sleep cycle.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #22
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Of course
sunlight is as welcome as flowers in spring. The point is
design always entails compromise, countless compromises, requires
the wisdom to know where to intensify resources and where they
will have to be suppressed.
Yes, but for instance which quality you add accounts for the loss of much sunlight in the rooms and a good bedroom?

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But what a lot of people don't
realize is that in most modern high rises the plate glass windows
are intentionally designed NOT to open.
Well, you can use Kippfenster (sorry, I don't know the word for that in english. http://www.hau-pferdesport.de/bilder...pfenster-2.jpg)
or a ventilation using chimney effects. Or provide loggia or balconies.
Wind pressure in buildings <100m is in most cases not that high. Of course in burj khalifa
a open window could be dangerous, but thats an exceptionaly case.

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its stubborn clinging to received rules that no longer have any meaning
False.
The people doesn't change that much. The human is the constant and so is his requirements.

What you describe as outdated rules is more relevant than ever. Because the wealth in all nations
rises and people are less likely to accept living situations with bad quality residential
solutions.

Sure you can live in a bunker with no sunlight, no fresh air and so on and provide technical
solutions for that problems. But trust me, exept for the caseof a nuclear war, almost everyone
you will ask will prefer a simple, elegant apartment with much sunlight, a good view to the
outside, even from the bedroom (in wich most people share a lot of time without sleeping..) and
access to fresh air.

You seem to be much of a technophilist and think that technical solutions can overcome any
solution for any problem. But architecture and design in genereal is not about "what can be
added to make this better?" but it is (or should) be more about what can be reduced to make it better.
The elegancy and economy of resources being used is a very important part. Nut just because
its elegant and easyer to plan, but also because the client you make the buidling for is not willing
to pay more than nessesary

Don't get me wrong: its good to think outside the box. As an architect you have to do that every single time.
But its a bit superciliously to think the own solution does every thing better than any solutions
of any former architect and "my way is the future".

Try to embark more on criticism.

A design is not good because you think it is, but because others think so.
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Old June 30th, 2011, 08:21 AM   #23
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I'll tell you who seems to have really got the simulated sunlight system well
worked out are the new line of apple retail stores. They seem to have figured out
precisely how to duplicate the intensity of outdoor light, its uniformity, as well
as delivering a nice white tempered light, free of the glare of direct sunlight.
But look we don't want to get sidetracked, the idea is to solve a problem
not impose a distortion induced by received rules. The high-rise is the very essence
of the artificial, the contrived, the un-natural in architecture. The challenge is making it as livable as possible, which returns us to the point of trying to create
just the sort of space Wright delivered so masterfully, space possessed of
the sense of simultaneously unbounded yet deeply organized space.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 01:03 AM   #24
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As well, Ive seen for example in period room re-creations at museums the way they
will create a simulated window mimicking daylight. I don't see why you
couldn't make a similar simulated daylight device in a windowless room which you
could connect with a clock such that the light level tracked the position
of the sun in the sky.
Just as architects and builders around the world is about to change course and produce more environmentally friendly buildings with more natural ventilation and light, you come up with a floorplan which seemingly not only does nothing to reduce greenhouse emissions, but even manages to create new _requirements_ for technology. Does our cities really need more energy consuming buildings, adding artificial sunlight(!) to the list of power consuming apparatus?
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Old July 5th, 2011, 01:30 AM   #25
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one reads all this hysterical nonsense about greenhouse gas and
can only laugh and throw up ones hands. co2 levels are a lagging
indicator, rising commensuratley with the general trend in warming
that began some ten thousand years ago with the end of the
ice age. the whole LEED mania is utter madness, leading architecture
and architects down yet another blind alley. one has to seriously
ask himself whether architecture will ever agains be inspired by
principles of beauty, of charm, of delight. will it ever get itself
unmired from the oddities of postmodernism and the compulsive
obsession with energy conservation, the mindless determination to
uglify buildings to the nth degree provided they think it will save
an nth of a joule of energy. architecture today is in its most
pathetic incarnation, worse today than even the pessemist of
the deepest dye would have dared prophesy a century ago.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 05:25 AM   #26
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Saving energy and resources is not only clever because of global warming. It also saves money. As I've said clients will not pay (much) more than required and being economical is not contrary to "beauty, of charm, of delight" or whatever.

Buildings account for around 50% of all energy-consumtion in the world. Making them as economical as possible can not only safe "an nth of a joule" but HUGE amounts of energy - and money.

And your view on todays architecture als a whole is depressing.
Architecture today is more many-faced than ever, and better than ever.
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