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The project forecasted the construction of a single tunnel bored by a TBM from Bignami station up to Marche, from which they proceed with traditional methods up to Zara, while from Garibaldi they digged with a mixed method ( blind hole and cut & cover) to build the tunnel up to Zara station. The whole line is fully automatic, like Turin metro, and the one under construction in Brescia Branch 1: Bignami - Stazione Garibaldi (FS - M2 - S) Length: 5.600 m Stations: 9 (Bignami - Ponale - Bicocca - Ca' Granda - Istria - Marche - Zara - Isola - Garibaldi) Passengers/Hours: 8.700 Currently U/C Construction started on July 2007 and the stretch will be opened on 2012 (Bignami-Zara) and 2013 (Zara-Garibaldi) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() TRAINS Initially the convoys will be 39 m long in a composition of 3 cars each; they'll carry 431 passengers and have 72 seats In the future the number of cars is forecasted to be upgraded to 4 reaching a total length of 50 m and carrying 534 passengers. Branch 2: Stazione Garibaldi - San Siro Length: 6.300 m Stations: 10 (Monumentale - Cenisio - Gerusalemme - Domodossola - Tre Torri - Portello - Lotto - Segesta - Esquilino - San Siro) Construction will start on 2010 and the stretch will be opened within 2015 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() www.metro-5.com
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More!! :P
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![]() Garibaldi station
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Well done
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Nice job.
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Some new pics: Isola station
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The fisrt 2 pics are referred to a service link with existing metro line 2, the other ones to the stretch Isola-Garibaldi partly digged with cut and cover (the only one stretch digged wit that tecnique)
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How is the whole metro-line financed?
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![]() It's in project financing: 60% public money and 40% private
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How much of the public costs are beared by the municipality, region, Italy and EU?
I'm just wondering, because it is really impressive building a complete new line with several stations despite italian municipalities (not their inhabitants) being generally poor. And here in Germany we can't manage anymore to build new long lines. Just look at the new metro-line U4 in Hamburg (effectively just 4 km of new tracks with two new stops) or the new metro-line U55 in Berlin (just 1,8 km with 3 stops. Extension unsure due to lack of funds). Also it is hard to get private investors for german public transport. |
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But in any case the most of the money is put in by the State (by the Governement to be more accurate) The system, to simplify, is like that: local administrations may submit to the Governement their infrastructural PT projects. A comitee (CIPE) estimates their financial sustainability (and obviously their coherence: small villages couldn't ask for money to build a metro web ) and provide to finance 'em as far as they find the necessary funds (the percentage of the financing is different by case)They kinda are 'forced' to give the money It works like this since '92: before the financing for local public transport infrastructures was uncertain and rarely a local administration planned a metro or a tram web, because they weren't sure to find the money After this law the number of cities planning and building infrastructures of PT increased Back to M5: 'only' 40% is private project financing (the private who financed it, is building it and will 'manage' the line for a 27 years period); the remaining part is public money (partly by Lombardia Region, partly by Milan municipality and partly by Government) The project financing formula was 'invented' to reduce the State financing to have as son as possible the money allocated True that 'inexplicably' many times other cities way more expensive projects (like Metro C in Rome) were interely financed by the State quite immediately, but normally lower is the 'price' easier is 'to find' the money. For istance Metro 4 (always in Milan, alway with project financing formula) is still waiting for the last State financing before start the construction (yep: M5 started before M4); the construction will start certainly in 2010, but the point is that to have the financing was harder (even if it was planned before M5) because the line stretches are 'too long' and consequently the money needed is more (in the case of a private project financing there is even the problem to find some private subject who wants to participate: and more is the money, higher is the risk) Thanks even the M4 project experience they thought M5 in a different way: they 'designed' a relatively short 'base stretch'... so they quite easily find investors and public money, and then start works (in brackets: it's even good the builders are the ones who invested. The sooner they finish the job, the sooner they start to earn: so they're working fast). Not only that: they could design even the second branch extension (thanks the 'success' of the first one) and very soon they will start to build the Garibaldi-San Siro stretch... the whole M5 from Bignami to San Siro is longer than M4 More: they're planning other extensions beyond Bignami, going North, and San Siro, going West Definitely I think M5 formula is a winning formula ![]() ...uff... I wrote a lot
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A coupple of old videos concerning the works
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The convoy (for the first phase: composition will be 4 cars)
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A sort of presentation, yesterday
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