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Old October 21st, 2011, 12:44 AM   #241
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The trains on line 5 look quite similar to the ones of Barcelona's line 11.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 02:06 PM   #242
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Actually they're the same ones of Copenhagen metro and the same of the future brescia metro
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Old October 21st, 2011, 07:00 PM   #243
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I see, but wont Brescia metro be rubber-tired? Like the Torino one is?
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Old October 25th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #244
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No. It is on regular rails

You can check these videos while they're testing teh new trains in Brescia

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Old October 25th, 2011, 09:00 PM   #245
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Grazie mille per i video!
It takes a lot to build the Brescia metro - it's like ages since they started.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #246
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It was forecasted since the beginning.
They want to built the line in just one tranche that is 13 km long.
Usually such a lenght is splitted in several branches which gradually enter service.

But they decided to make everything in one shot; maybe 'cause it's a bit cheaper this way, I think.
Obviously you can make the works be shorter even this way, but it would be more expensisive (more men working)

Anyway Brescia metro will enter service within December 2012. A little more than one year to go
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 03:54 PM   #247
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Some updates on Bignami-Zara M5 stretch

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Ciao a tutti!

Vi mando qualche foto da Zara/Marche/Istria.

La prima cosa importante è questa: ve lo ricordate il pozzo Keplero?




Nelle prossime tre invece qualche dettaglio dalla stazione Marche. Nulla di nuovo però si vedono un po' meglio i dettagli di come verrà una volta finito.

L'arrangiamento del controviale



Lo scivolo che porta all'ascensore



Le vascone per le piante in prossimità delle scale (che mi piacciono molto e spero non diventino delle pattumiere)




Qui invece dettagli della scala di servizio del pozzo laurana.
Purtroppo i soliti si sono dati da fare con le bombolette



E qui le porte tagliafuoco nuove di pacca:





Qui invece qualche dettaglio da Istria:

L'ormai famosissima palina con il rivestimento che anche qui hanno cominciato ad applicare.



Qui invece dettaglio sulla sistemazione della piazza. La fermata del tram che sta venendo molto bene.



Avrei una domanda riguardo la prossima foto. Qualcuno sa dirmi come mai alcuni pozzi sono chiusi con queste coperture complete invece delle classiche grate?



Qui invece ci spostiamo a Zara

Un po' OT ma questa è la vista dalla stazione



Qui invece hanno cominciato con la pavimentazione degli scivoli che portano alle scale e agli ascensori.




Ciao a tutti!

PS: Per eliing... Io adoro le tue foto! Mi permettono di vedere fin lì anche se non ci sono fisicamente
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 04:07 PM   #248
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Updates on Garibaldi-San Siro M5 stretch

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Old November 24th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #249
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The 'head' of one of the 4 TBMs which will build the tunnels of M5 west extension waiting to start working in San Siro

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I vetri sono antisfondamento ...

comunque ecco, subito, il mio contributo, le foto sono di oggi pomeriggio. Sona arrivata in macchina in via Tesio e mi sono trovata davanti l'idrofresa e la benna mordente.

Quindi, i 2 "mostri", come li chiamano sul Corriere, ora sono fuori dalla porta di casa ...



Panoramica : gruppo spintore della talpa EPB nr. 480 montato e il nuovo traliccio. Si intravede la platea su cui poggia.


Zoom: gruppo spintore EPB. Dietro si vede un altro pezzo di scudo, che a occhio mi sembra il gemello.


ecco, ciao

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Old November 30th, 2011, 07:22 PM   #250
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Two maps of Milan's S-lines network by two Italian forumers

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Ho provato anch'io a fare una mappa geografica delle linee S



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Old November 30th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #251
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Is there any project to extend the suburban service to Bergamo?

Thanks in advance.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:25 AM   #252
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I think Milano - Bergamo is too far to have an S-train.
However, it was funny to ride a train BG-MI, in Milano having the way Lambrate - Villapizzone - P.ta Geribaldi.
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Old December 1st, 2011, 12:37 PM   #253
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Bergamo is closer than Varese or Lecco which have S lines service
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Old December 1st, 2011, 11:56 PM   #254
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Bergamo is closer than Varese or Lecco which have S lines service
You obviusly know the region much better than I do, do you think extending S5 and/or S6 to Bergamo could be a good idea?

I read the Italian forum about the S lines, but my Italian is poor, could you confirm that I understand well, and S13 to Pavia does not exist (is S10 in service now?) but will start in this month?
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 12:27 AM   #255
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Actually the S10 exists, but will be transformed in S13 soon running from Bovisa to Pavia. I'm quite sure that it's going to be extended to saronno in the near future.
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Old December 2nd, 2011, 01:02 PM   #257
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You obviusly know the region much better than I do, do you think extending S5 and/or S6 to Bergamo could be a good idea?
I think that S lines should have a homogeneous service.
If the distance is too long (and with too many stations) to have an effective service, then short even the S lines to Varese, Lecco, Novara, and Como is better to; and in the remaining stretch to have R lines (regional lines) which stop every stations since the S lines external terminus to their external terminus (Como, Varese, etc.) and run without any stops since S lines terminus to Milan terminus.

This kind of service exists in FNM infrastructures.
For instance S1 S3 have their terminus in Saronno. But the infrastructure allows to keep on to Varese (and even to Malpensa, Novara, Como and Seregno; the last one once they upgrade the old track). There are R lines which beetween Milan and Saronno don't stop, while they stop in every station beetween Saronno and Varese (or Novara, or Como).
There are even R lines which stop only at main stations

Milano Saronno stretch has 4 tracks, then is quite simple to manage this kind of different services; while many other 'corridors' often have just two tracks and, where there are more ones, they have to share 'em with long distance trains as they belongs to RFI, the national railways (FNM is a regional railway originary born for commuters; on its infrastrutures only local trains run)


To conclude, I think that S lines have to be the most homgeneous they can. Short or longer, it doesn't matter.
To have even express services which can short the time of the travel for distant commuting is important
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I see that S lines of Trenitalia are quite longer (Novara, Varese, Lecco and even Chiasso) that those of LeNord (or whatever is it called now). So it would be logical to extend S5 and/or S6 service to Bergamo. A service of 2 trains / hour seems to be really needed for me in this line.
However even the S services mentioned above are too long, I think. They should be shorter but serve more (newly opened) stops. No stops between Monza and Sesto San Giovanni or P.ta Vittoria - Segrate is quite strange for me. However, between Pioltello-Limito and Treviglio I see no need for new stops.

MI-BG is possible both through Carnate and through Treviglio, isn't it?
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Some years ago some new stops in Monza were planned, and the S-line to Lecco should have been stopped in Carnate. This plan has been stopped

On the Milan-Treviglio-Bergamo line, they have no stop-services every 60', that are better than a S-line, plus a regional service Treviglio-Bergamo every 60'.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 06:30 PM   #260
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This is not directely related to PT but it's a strange thing I found out in Italian forum

In the garden of the spa Terme di Milano, at Porta Romana in Milan city center, there is an old Peter Witt's tram tured into a sauna

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