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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #41
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I thought so nowadays tram's speed is 70-100 km/h so it's cool.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 06:32 PM   #42
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Around 70 Km/h full-loaded..
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Old February 17th, 2009, 08:27 PM   #43
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has someone tested them on highest speed? or it's just you asume ?

Well on speedometer it's 80 km/h I think and think that that's the maximum speed this trams can reach.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 07:26 AM   #44
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have they no shovels in milan? can't they clear the snow?

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I dedicate this thread to the Milan public transportation includes: bus, tram, subway, trolleybus, S Lines (urban and suburban trains) and Bike sharing
Currently, public transport is managed by ATM Milano SpA (Azienda Trasporti Milanesi) and serves, in addition to the City of Milan more than 40 cities in the metropolitan area.
Public transport in Milan is one of the best in Italy and offers: a variety of bus lines, an extensive network of tram (one of the largest in Europe), three subway lines (2 under construction, 5 in planning), 3 lines trolleybus lines, 10 railway S
and 200 stations Bike-sharing (50 under construction)

Bus

The network consists of urban automobile 83 lines, two of which perform alternative service at night in the subway.
The cars are mainly buses Milan home IVECO. The urban models (12 meters) with many years of service are the 48XX-49XX CityClass serial, which are being replaced by brand new ecobus Irisbus Citelis EEV (Enhanced Environmentally Friendly Vehicles) (IVECO always home).
Are already in service of two different colors Citelis: The first batch of 50 units in 2008 was sent to ATM orange livery, the second batch, delivered to the ATM in 2010 is another 120 units with light gray-green livery (like trams sirio and eurotram).

The fleet of 18 meters has recently been renovated with 100 Mercedes cars ecobus CITARO EEV (Enhanced Environmentally Friendly Vehicles), again in light gray-green livery, these cars prove to be very high performance and high safety standards. All these new cars (and Citaro Citelis) are equipped with air conditioning, LED orange veils, 24H surveillance, buttons to open doors of self-service by the passengers (including the blind), voice announcement systems and visual stop (thanks to radio communications RCC) and ramp for wheelchair users.
In 2010 were put into operation two hybrid buses (diesel and electric motor) in a MAN branded a branded SE and Van Hool, operating only lend to lines 50 and 58.

The symbol EEV aforementioned means that the vehicle produces lower emissions as established by law (EURO 5). These engines can reduce fuel consumption and therefore CO2 emissions
In addition to these cars, ATM deposits contain most of the new model of 'Cursor Irisbus CityClass, entered service a few years ago we argue for equipping cars ecobus similar to (but not on pollution to the comfort passengers).

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The trams are a typical component of the landscape in Milan. The city also has 17-lines that make up one of the largest tram networks in the world (about 300 km of tracks), and the largest fleet of trams in Europe with as many as 519 specimens, both new and old-style tram are spreading in major European cities
The trams are a typical component of the landscape in Milan. The characteristic of the tram tramway Milan are certainly the "Twenty-eight" (series 1500) built between 1928 and 1932 in 502 copies and is still in circulation in 163 units.
In service as well as the newer cars:
Bombardier Flexity Outlook E - 34.10 m 7 elements - Zagato Design
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 35.35 m 7 elements - designed by Pininfarina
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 25.15 m 5 elements - designed by Pininfarina
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 26.5 m 5 elements -

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The subway network of ​​Milan, backbone of the local public transport network, consists of three lines, with a total area of 83.5 km, making it the largest in Italy.
And 'extended to 83.5 km, the three lines are commonly called with colors that identify the "red" (M1), "green" (M2), the "yellow" (M3). The color is used in the maps, in the livery of trains and stations of the furniture
Current projects include the extension of existing lines and construction of two new lines, called M4 and M5. The creation of routes, however, has already suffered delays provided for both the priority given to these Molino Dorino - Rho Fair (not initially planned), funding for both problems. Since 2005 there has been an acceleration, however, with the funding and approval of line 5, with part of the financing, line 4 (CIPE of March 29, 2006). In the 2007 Budget the Government has committed to fund the building line 4 with 170 million euros. When the work is finished, the extension of the Milan subway will be 140 km.

The municipality of Milan has also approved the project on further metro lines in his plan of territorial government, valid until 2030 [15].
It was announced that most likely will be built by 2014, a circular line (like the Circle Line of London Underground) Railway type and a modified version with additional 6 stops of the current line S5.

From late 2007 begun work to cover the lines underground through the UMTS network, with coverage of the stations was completed in December 2009.
At the beginning of 2008 started the HSDPA coverage. The technology used is the RF over fiber. The operators who participated in the coverage are TIM, Vodafone, Wind and 3. From August 2009 there are 40 stations covered by HSDPA. From 21 December 2009 was achieved at 100% coverage of all three cell lines and all telephone operators

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Trolleybus

The trolleybus network in Milan is composed of 4 lines:
90 circular right (Viale Isonzo - Lot M1 - Viale Isonzo)
91 circular left (Viale Isonzo - Lot M1 - Viale Isonzo)
Viale Isonzo 92 - Bovisa FN
93 Viale Omero - Lambrate M2

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The suburban rail system in Milan is a local public transport in the metropolitan area of Milan.
To 2011 is composed of ten lines, including nine operated by Trenord (formerly LeNord Trenitalia) and a Temporary Association of Companies (ATI) made ​​by the same company together with the ATM.

The network provides a link between the centers of the metropolitan area and the city of Milan, allowing faster connections between trains, subway lines and the Milan urban ATM.

Service is the core of the railway, a tunnel that crosses the city from the north-west to east at the confluence of many of the "S line" reaching an average frequency of six minutes, and has the function to distribute passenger traffic on the network of metropolitan and lines of force on the surface. The station where you can interchange with the greatest number of lines is Milan Porta Garibaldi, including the underground part, where they meet seven out of ten lines.

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BikeMi is a new service of Bike Sharing in the city of Milan, easy, practical and environmentally friendly. Created to facilitate the mobility of citizens, BikeMi is not just a bike rental service, but a real public transport system to be used for short trips (up to 2 hours) along with the traditional ATM transport.

This is just the beginning of a major project, which will see the gradual increase of locations BikeMi, placed near the main strategic points in Milan: from the train stations to universities, from hospitals to places of tourist interest, from the underground to the centers administrative, commercial and parking. Those who subscribe to only think about taking your bike, get to your destination and return it in the nearest station.

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THE PROJECT OF M5
The project forecasted the construction of a single tunnel bored by a TBM from Bignami station up to Marche, from which they proceed with traditional methods up to Zara, while from Garibaldi they digged with a mixed method ( blind hole and cut & cover) to build the tunnel up to Zara station. The whole line is fully automatic, like Turin metro, and the one under construction in Brescia



Branch 1: Bignami - Stazione Garibaldi (FS - M2 - S)
Length: 5.600 m
Stations: 9 (Bignami - Ponale - Bicocca - Ca' Granda - Istria - Marche - Zara - Isola - Garibaldi)
Passengers/Hours: 8.700
Currently U/C
Construction started on July 2007 and the stretch will be opened on 2012 (Bignami-Zara) and 2013 (Zara-Garibaldi)











TRAINS
Initially the convoys will be 39 m long in a composition of 3 cars each; they'll carry 431 passengers and have 72 seats
In the future the number of cars is forecasted to be upgraded to 4 reaching a total length of 50 m and carrying 534 passengers.




Branch 2: Stazione Garibaldi - San Siro
Length: 6.300 m
Stations: 10 (Monumentale - Cenisio - Gerusalemme - Domodossola - Tre Torri - Portello - Lotto - Segesta - Esquilino - San Siro)
Construction will start on 2010 and the stretch will be opened within 2015










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Old September 4th, 2009, 01:15 PM   #46
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Ne carico 2 anche io...
DEPOSITO
[IMG]http://i32.************/16bkmrm.jpg[/IMG]

GALLERIA con solettone completato
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Con l'ultima foto mi ricollego alla domanda di Sebametro su quando verrā posato l'armamento...
In molte foto si vedono le betoniere al lavoro che gettano la soletta di regolazione nelle gallerie. In alcuni tratti č giā completo, mentre in altri si sta lavorando.

E' quindi ipotizzabile che a breve inizieranno la posa dei basamenti prefasbbricati su cui poi verranno agganciati i binari...ovviamente nei tratti giā completati.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 01:22 PM   #47
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Old September 30th, 2009, 12:42 PM   #54
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Some new pics: Isola station

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Ciau a tutti...

tra via de Catillia e via Confalonieri

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verso garibaldi

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Stazione garibaldi

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The fisrt 2 pics are referred to a service link with existing metro line 2, the other ones to the stretch Isola-Garibaldi partly digged with cut and cover (the only one stretch digged wit that tecnique)

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un paio di aggiornamenti sui cantieri MM5 all'isola

Tronchino di collegamento M5-M2 - Galleria artificiale U3-Parco





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How is the whole metro-line financed?
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It's in project financing: 60% public money and 40% private
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How much of the public costs are beared by the municipality, region, Italy and EU?

I'm just wondering, because it is really impressive building a complete new line with several stations despite italian municipalities (not their inhabitants) being generally poor. And here in Germany we can't manage anymore to build new long lines. Just look at the new metro-line U4 in Hamburg (effectively just 4 km of new tracks with two new stops) or the new metro-line U55 in Berlin (just 1,8 km with 3 stops. Extension unsure due to lack of funds). Also it is hard to get private investors for german public transport.
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How much of the public costs are beared by the municipality, region, Italy and EU?

I'm just wondering, because it is really impressive building a complete new line with several stations despite italian municipalities (not their inhabitants) being generally poor. And here in Germany we can't manage anymore to build new long lines. Just look at the new metro-line U4 in Hamburg (effectively just 4 km of new tracks with two new stops) or the new metro-line U55 in Berlin (just 1,8 km with 3 stops. Extension unsure due to lack of funds). Also it is hard to get private investors for german public transport.
In Italy generally public transport is financed by the State directly; other subjects which could participate are local administrations (Regions, Provinces, Municipalities), private subjects and even EU in some cases (that's true pratically only for Southern Italy Regions. Infact part of the huge Naples metro and trains developement is cofinanced by the Union)
But in any case the most of the money is put in by the State (by the Governement to be more accurate)
The system, to simplify, is like that: local administrations may submit to the Governement their infrastructural PT projects. A comitee (CIPE) estimates their financial sustainability (and obviously their coherence: small villages couldn't ask for money to build a metro web ) and provide to finance 'em as far as they find the necessary funds (the percentage of the financing is different by case)
They kinda are 'forced' to give the money
It works like this since '92: before the financing for local public transport infrastructures was uncertain and rarely a local administration planned a metro or a tram web, because they weren't sure to find the money
After this law the number of cities planning and building infrastructures of PT increased


Back to M5: 'only' 40% is private project financing (the private who financed it, is building it and will 'manage' the line for a 27 years period); the remaining part is public money (partly by Lombardia Region, partly by Milan municipality and partly by Government)
The project financing formula was 'invented' to reduce the State financing to have as son as possible the money allocated
True that 'inexplicably' many times other cities way more expensive projects (like Metro C in Rome) were interely financed by the State quite immediately, but normally lower is the 'price' easier is 'to find' the money.
For istance Metro 4 (always in Milan, alway with project financing formula) is still waiting for the last State financing before start the construction (yep: M5 started before M4); the construction will start certainly in 2010, but the point is that to have the financing was harder (even if it was planned before M5) because the line stretches are 'too long' and consequently the money needed is more (in the case of a private project financing there is even the problem to find some private subject who wants to participate: and more is the money, higher is the risk)
Thanks even the M4 project experience they thought M5 in a different way: they 'designed' a relatively short 'base stretch'... so they quite easily find investors and public money, and then start works (in brackets: it's even good the builders are the ones who invested. The sooner they finish the job, the sooner they start to earn: so they're working fast). Not only that: they could design even the second branch extension (thanks the 'success' of the first one) and very soon they will start to build the Garibaldi-San Siro stretch... the whole M5 from Bignami to San Siro is longer than M4
More: they're planning other extensions beyond Bignami, going North, and San Siro, going West

Definitely I think M5 formula is a winning formula

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