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Old October 12th, 2009, 01:14 PM   #61
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 06:14 PM   #62
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A coupple of old videos concerning the works

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Un paio di video interessanti trovati per caso su youtube...

Calaggio di una betoniera all'interno dello scavo (pensavo si usassero delle rampe o un montacarichi un po' pi¨ tradizionale)...


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Old November 3rd, 2009, 05:47 PM   #63
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The convoy (for the first phase: composition will be 4 cars)

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Agli amici di Milano un bel regalo.. cosi' finalmente vedrete come sara' il treno della vostra M5 sorella di quella di brescia e copenhaghen (che pero' hanno stazioni piu' belle)

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Old May 6th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #64
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A sort of presentation, yesterday

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Ecco la galleria fotografica del corriere

Molte foto sono le stesse di quelle di repubblica (si vede che sono rilasciate direttamente da M5 in una cartella stampa), per cui ho selezionato solo quelle che su repubblica non compaiono



















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Old May 6th, 2011, 12:34 PM   #65
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Old May 6th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #66
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A little greeting from Denmark We have those trains in our newest metro of Copenhagen, and they do an excellent job! Its impressive how accurate they are at accelerating and braking. Especially braking, they do it a lot faster than any human would do. Thus faster overall!
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Ciao, you know that the Copenhagen metro is operated by ATM Milano (Azienda Trasporti Milanesi)?



















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A little greeting from Denmark We have those trains in our newest metro of Copenhagen, and they do an excellent job! Its impressive how accurate they are at accelerating and braking. Especially braking, they do it a lot faster than any human would do. Thus faster overall!
Those trains will operate in Brescia metro as well
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Is it already open? if not, when will it be?
looks like it is finished.
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Is it already open? if not, when will it be?
looks like it is finished.
No, it will be opened April 2012 (first section)?!
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Is it already open? if not, when will it be?
looks like it is finished.
Many stations are almost finished, but they have to keep on testing the stretch before opening and for a new line it is a job which lasts months.
Anyway I thought it could open within 2011: probably they want to open having even the rail connection with M2 (to use to send the trains to Famagosta depot in case they need a reapair or something) ready... in that stretch works are a bit 'late' and maybe that's why they will open in 2012, I think.
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MILAN | Public Transport

I dedicate this thread to the Milan public transportation includes: bus, tram, subway, trolleybus, S Lines (urban and suburban trains) and Bike sharing
Currently, public transport is managed by ATM Milano SpA (Azienda Trasporti Milanesi) and serves, in addition to the City of Milan more than 40 cities in the metropolitan area.
Public transport in Milan is one of the best in Italy and offers: a variety of bus lines, an extensive network of tram (one of the largest in Europe), three subway lines (2 under construction, 5 in planning), 3 lines trolleybus lines, 10 railway S
and 200 stations Bike-sharing (50 under construction)

Bus

The network consists of urban automobile 83 lines, two of which perform alternative service at night in the subway.
The cars are mainly buses Milan home IVECO. The urban models (12 meters) with many years of service are the 48XX-49XX CityClass serial, which are being replaced by brand new ecobus Irisbus Citelis EEV (Enhanced Environmentally Friendly Vehicles) (IVECO always home).
Are already in service of two different colors Citelis: The first batch of 50 units in 2008 was sent to ATM orange livery, the second batch, delivered to the ATM in 2010 is another 120 units with light gray-green livery (like trams sirio and eurotram).

The fleet of 18 meters has recently been renovated with 100 Mercedes cars ecobus CITARO EEV (Enhanced Environmentally Friendly Vehicles), again in light gray-green livery, these cars prove to be very high performance and high safety standards. All these new cars (and Citaro Citelis) are equipped with air conditioning, LED orange veils, 24H surveillance, buttons to open doors of self-service by the passengers (including the blind), voice announcement systems and visual stop (thanks to radio communications RCC) and ramp for wheelchair users.
In 2010 were put into operation two hybrid buses (diesel and electric motor) in a MAN branded a branded SE and Van Hool, operating only lend to lines 50 and 58.

The symbol EEV aforementioned means that the vehicle produces lower emissions as established by law (EURO 5). These engines can reduce fuel consumption and therefore CO2 emissions
In addition to these cars, ATM deposits contain most of the new model of 'Cursor Irisbus CityClass, entered service a few years ago we argue for equipping cars ecobus similar to (but not on pollution to the comfort passengers).

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The trams are a typical component of the landscape in Milan. The city also has 17-lines that make up one of the largest tram networks in the world (about 300 km of tracks), and the largest fleet of trams in Europe with as many as 519 specimens, both new and old-style tram are spreading in major European cities
The trams are a typical component of the landscape in Milan. The characteristic of the tram tramway Milan are certainly the "Twenty-eight" (series 1500) built between 1928 and 1932 in 502 copies and is still in circulation in 163 units.
In service as well as the newer cars:
Bombardier Flexity Outlook E - 34.10 m 7 elements - Zagato Design
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 35.35 m 7 elements - designed by Pininfarina
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 25.15 m 5 elements - designed by Pininfarina
Ansaldobreda Sirio - 26.5 m 5 elements -

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The subway network of ​​Milan, backbone of the local public transport network, consists of three lines, with a total area of 83.5 km, making it the largest in Italy.
And 'extended to 83.5 km, the three lines are commonly called with colors that identify the "red" (M1), "green" (M2), the "yellow" (M3). The color is used in the maps, in the livery of trains and stations of the furniture
Current projects include the extension of existing lines and construction of two new lines, called M4 and M5. The creation of routes, however, has already suffered delays provided for both the priority given to these Molino Dorino - Rho Fair (not initially planned), funding for both problems. Since 2005 there has been an acceleration, however, with the funding and approval of line 5, with part of the financing, line 4 (CIPE of March 29, 2006). In the 2007 Budget the Government has committed to fund the building line 4 with 170 million euros. When the work is finished, the extension of the Milan subway will be 140 km.

The municipality of Milan has also approved the project on further metro lines in his plan of territorial government, valid until 2030 [15].
It was announced that most likely will be built by 2014, a circular line (like the Circle Line of London Underground) Railway type and a modified version with additional 6 stops of the current line S5.

From late 2007 begun work to cover the lines underground through the UMTS network, with coverage of the stations was completed in December 2009.
At the beginning of 2008 started the HSDPA coverage. The technology used is the RF over fiber. The operators who participated in the coverage are TIM, Vodafone, Wind and 3. From August 2009 there are 40 stations covered by HSDPA. From 21 December 2009 was achieved at 100% coverage of all three cell lines and all telephone operators

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Trolleybus

The trolleybus network in Milan is composed of 4 lines:
90 circular right (Viale Isonzo - Lot M1 - Viale Isonzo)
91 circular left (Viale Isonzo - Lot M1 - Viale Isonzo)
Viale Isonzo 92 - Bovisa FN
93 Viale Omero - Lambrate M2

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The suburban rail system in Milan is a local public transport in the metropolitan area of Milan.
To 2011 is composed of ten lines, including nine operated by Trenord (formerly LeNord Trenitalia) and a Temporary Association of Companies (ATI) made ​​by the same company together with the ATM.

The network provides a link between the centers of the metropolitan area and the city of Milan, allowing faster connections between trains, subway lines and the Milan urban ATM.

Service is the core of the railway, a tunnel that crosses the city from the north-west to east at the confluence of many of the "S line" reaching an average frequency of six minutes, and has the function to distribute passenger traffic on the network of metropolitan and lines of force on the surface. The station where you can interchange with the greatest number of lines is Milan Porta Garibaldi, including the underground part, where they meet seven out of ten lines.

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BikeMi is a new service of Bike Sharing in the city of Milan, easy, practical and environmentally friendly. Created to facilitate the mobility of citizens, BikeMi is not just a bike rental service, but a real public transport system to be used for short trips (up to 2 hours) along with the traditional ATM transport.

This is just the beginning of a major project, which will see the gradual increase of locations BikeMi, placed near the main strategic points in Milan: from the train stations to universities, from hospitals to places of tourist interest, from the underground to the centers administrative, commercial and parking. Those who subscribe to only think about taking your bike, get to your destination and return it in the nearest station.

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As a former resident of Milano, I have some comments (sorry if they get too detailed/city-specific):
  • when I was living there, the tram line to Cineselo had already been commissioned (with great fanfare) and was operating. I also remember they had changed some tram lines from the version presented on the map as they reorganized some lines.
  • subway line 2 (green) recently saw the extension from Farmagosta to Assago. This line has become a 2-Y, branching in both ends (Assago and Abiategrasso in the south, joining at Farmagosta; Cologno Nord and Gessate in the northeast, joining at Cascina Gobba). I'm not sure about how they are operating the line, as trains were being slowly introduced on the new sector. My guess is that they will operate a "short loop" Cologno-Abiategrasso and a long loop Assago - Gessate. Maybe they will expand the line from Abiategrasso eastward some day.
  • subway line 2 (yellow) finally opened its extension Degrano-Comasina. It is mostly a derelict and decaying area, they are saying new, fast connections will help to improve some "quartieri" nearby.
  • those old trains are the crappiest thing around Milano. Too hot on summer, too cold on winter, slippery floor. They are good - as a touristic joy ride - and should be retired as new fleet arrives. They are particularly overused in the orbital lines around Milano Dowtown, sometimes you are driving a car and see 3-4 of them queuing.
  • the trolleybus corridor (lines 90/91) encompasses an extended orbit around the "inner city" and should be converted to tramway. 90% of it already runs in physically segregated lanes.
  • Milano bike sharing is a joke. Theft is high, and you ought to be a bit crazy to ride bikes in the inner areas of Milano anyway.

Now, some comments on ATM management. The agency has the worst fare box recover of all major European cities, a meager 14% in 2009. This is due to the political play with the agency, with demagogue fare politics. Single-fare (75min) tickets cost € 1,00. One-day unlimited travel tickets cost € 3,00. Monthly subscription passes cost € 30.

With these low fares, nobody can pay its bills, but on the other hand low fares are the only way to keep an unreliable, delay-prone system full so that local politicians can keep pushing more transit projects forward. I'm talking particularly of the irrational tram network, that should be streamlined with trunk lines with frequent service using larger trams and having buses out of downtown, operating feeder services to the MEtro and Tram only... But, as I say, it is a political plot: it has become an excuse for everything, from higher parking fees ("if you think it is expensive, take the subway instead of driving")
to housing policy ("it is cheap to move around the city anyway").

A trick, though, is that all those prices only apply within the limits of Milano municipality. If you are travelling to nearby cities (in Milano conurbation, totally connected to it), those fares no longer apply, they are far more expensive and based on traveled zones.
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Milano bike sharing is a joke. Theft is high, and you ought to be a bit crazy to ride bikes in the inner areas of Milano anyway.
About crazyness is just your opinion (anyway recently they built brandnew bike pathways in city center), but about the high theft is not true as far as I know
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About crazyness is just your opinion (anyway recently they built brandnew bike pathways in city center), but about the high theft is not true as far as I know
I read on La Repubblica last December or so that the turnover of bikes were about 40% for 12 months. And the program doesn't recover not even 10% of its costs via subscriptions.

Meanwhile, they can't even keep the few existing bike paths in good standing.
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I suggest you not to read la Repubblica (or at least to read something other in addiction) over all for everything concerning Milan: they love to misinform or exagerate data to support 'their' political part.
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