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LCIII · August 1st, 2011, 04:00 PM

Mhays, do you mind explaining what it is exactly that I'm looking at?

mhays · August 1st, 2011, 06:25 PM

Seasun would be way better at that.... I'm not a technical guy.

They appear to be building caissons, as described on pages 21-22 of this primer: http://xnet.rrc.mb.ca/garyg/FOUNDATI...oundations.pdf. This is time-consuming.

Since Colman isn't going underground you won't see a hole except as needed for footings, elevator pit, etc. Even that might be time-consuming since there's 150 years (?) of history down there.

LCIII · August 1st, 2011, 07:22 PM

Thanks

Seasun · August 1st, 2011, 09:42 PM

I suggest a google image search for: pilecap rebar
or similar phrases and you should see lots of similar work and you'll find related website. The rebar piles go way down into the earth and then the "pilecap" is the transition to the building's structural frame - if this building is built the way I think it is based on driving by it a couple days ago.

LCIII · August 1st, 2011, 09:58 PM

Just as a very general idea how long until we start to see something that resembles a structure or a first floor or something?

testdrive · August 2nd, 2011, 09:27 AM

image hosted on flickr

Colman bldg by testdrive98045, on Flickr

LCIII · August 2nd, 2011, 03:12 PM

Is that an accurate size? Seems taller than the renderings.

testdrive · August 2nd, 2011, 06:11 PM

It may be.....it was just an approximate attempt. The buildings directly in back are 8 or 9 stories so I just doubled it.

LCIII · August 2nd, 2011, 08:14 PM

Interesting. Thanks regardless. I always like visuals.

I'd kill for rendering of the entire skyline that included the Clise properties proposal from 2008, 5th and Columbia, 5th and Madison, 1012 1st Ave, the North Lot development through phase 2 with optional office buildings over the rails, the Civic Center, and the James Corner Field Operations Waterfront proposal. THAT would be something to salivate over.

alexjonlin · August 2nd, 2011, 10:01 PM

I played around with Google Sketchup a couple years ago to produce this rendering of what the skyline would look like with the supposed "Trump Tower Seattle" proposal, which probably wasn't ever going to amount to anything.

LCIII · August 2nd, 2011, 10:19 PM

If I was any good at that kind of stuff I would make the one I wrote about. I would settle for a flat 2D picture even with just all those projects overlaid onto one skyline. But alas that is not one of my gifts.

Ruffhauser · August 3rd, 2011, 07:26 PM

I clipped this out of some article in the Times a couple of years ago when the Clise Properties were being kicked around.

image hosted on flickr

Vashon118 · August 5th, 2011, 04:22 AM

Tower crane base has been put in.

Doomgoggles · August 5th, 2011, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruffhauser

I clipped this out of some article in the Times a couple of years ago when the Clise Properties were being kicked around.

image hosted on flickr

Gods, what a monster!

Vashon118 · August 9th, 2011, 07:02 AM

08/08:

[IMG]http://i51.************/2n8am13.jpg[/IMG]

LCIII · August 9th, 2011, 07:09 AM

Love seeing the progress! Thanks!

Rogue Linguist · August 10th, 2011, 03:04 AM

Is the James Corner Field Operations Waterfront Proposal the proposal the city is considering most seriously for the post-viaduct waterfront?

Seasun · August 10th, 2011, 04:04 AM

My understanding is the city has hired (after a selection process about a year ago) the James Corner firm to design the new waterfront. There have a been at least two public meetings with Corner. Here's the website devoted to the project: http://waterfrontseattle.org/home/

LCIII · August 10th, 2011, 05:51 AM

Why are we having that conversation in here?

testdrive · August 10th, 2011, 07:31 AM

Maybe they just didn't see the thread you created for this............which was a good idea

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August 1st, 2011, 04:00 PM	#21
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Mhays, do you mind explaining what it is exactly that I'm looking at?

August 1st, 2011, 06:25 PM	#22
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,463 Likes (Received): 125	Seasun would be way better at that.... I'm not a technical guy. They appear to be building caissons, as described on pages 21-22 of this primer: http://xnet.rrc.mb.ca/garyg/FOUNDATI...oundations.pdf. This is time-consuming. Since Colman isn't going underground you won't see a hole except as needed for footings, elevator pit, etc. Even that might be time-consuming since there's 150 years (?) of history down there.

August 1st, 2011, 07:22 PM	#23
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Thanks

August 1st, 2011, 09:42 PM	#24
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,598 Likes (Received): 48	I suggest a google image search for: pilecap rebar or similar phrases and you should see lots of similar work and you'll find related website. The rebar piles go way down into the earth and then the "pilecap" is the transition to the building's structural frame - if this building is built the way I think it is based on driving by it a couple days ago.

August 1st, 2011, 09:58 PM	#25
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Just as a very general idea how long until we start to see something that resembles a structure or a first floor or something?

August 2nd, 2011, 09:27 AM	#26
testdrive Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Bend Posts: 872 Likes (Received): 20	image hosted on flickr Colman bldg by testdrive98045, on Flickr

August 2nd, 2011, 03:12 PM	#27
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Is that an accurate size? Seems taller than the renderings.

August 2nd, 2011, 06:11 PM	#28
testdrive Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Bend Posts: 872 Likes (Received): 20	It may be.....it was just an approximate attempt. The buildings directly in back are 8 or 9 stories so I just doubled it.

August 2nd, 2011, 08:14 PM	#29
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Interesting. Thanks regardless. I always like visuals. I'd kill for rendering of the entire skyline that included the Clise properties proposal from 2008, 5th and Columbia, 5th and Madison, 1012 1st Ave, the North Lot development through phase 2 with optional office buildings over the rails, the Civic Center, and the James Corner Field Operations Waterfront proposal. THAT would be something to salivate over.

August 2nd, 2011, 10:01 PM	#30
alexjonlin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,284 Likes (Received): 89	I played around with Google Sketchup a couple years ago to produce this rendering of what the skyline would look like with the supposed "Trump Tower Seattle" proposal, which probably wasn't ever going to amount to anything.

August 2nd, 2011, 10:19 PM	#31
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	If I was any good at that kind of stuff I would make the one I wrote about. I would settle for a flat 2D picture even with just all those projects overlaid onto one skyline. But alas that is not one of my gifts.

August 3rd, 2011, 07:26 PM	#32
Ruffhauser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Belltown Posts: 1,428 Likes (Received): 261	I clipped this out of some article in the Times a couple of years ago when the Clise Properties were being kicked around. image hosted on flickr

August 5th, 2011, 04:22 AM	#33
Vashon118 Bus & ferry dude Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vashon Island Posts: 709 Likes (Received): 107	Tower crane base has been put in.

August 9th, 2011, 07:02 AM	#35
Vashon118 Bus & ferry dude Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vashon Island Posts: 709 Likes (Received): 107	08/08: [IMG]http://i51.************/2n8am13.jpg[/IMG]

August 9th, 2011, 07:09 AM	#36
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Love seeing the progress! Thanks!

August 10th, 2011, 04:04 AM	#38
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,598 Likes (Received): 48	My understanding is the city has hired (after a selection process about a year ago) the James Corner firm to design the new waterfront. There have a been at least two public meetings with Corner. Here's the website devoted to the project: http://waterfrontseattle.org/home/

August 10th, 2011, 05:51 AM	#39
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Why are we having that conversation in here?

August 10th, 2011, 07:31 AM	#40
testdrive Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Bend Posts: 872 Likes (Received): 20	Maybe they just didn't see the thread you created for this............which was a good idea