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Old July 27th, 2011, 07:45 AM   #81
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I don't read Spanish, so you'll have to sum up what you just posted.
I'd be obliged.

The people involved in making this a reality are Nicolas Leoz, CONMEBOL President, and Eugenio Figueredo for CONMEBOL. For CONCACAF, you have Rafael Salguero and Alfredo Hawitt, CONCACAF interim president, but the person who seems to be the most behind this idea and is a very important factor for getting this going is Justino Compean, the FMF president, who seems to be the front runner for president of CONCACAF in the upcoming elections.

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-The plan is to have one tournament for both Confederations of 16 teams. 10 CONMEBOL and 6 CONCACAF. Mexico and the US would qualify automatically, with 3 coming out of the Central American championship and 1 from the Caribbean. The only issue somewhat is where to stick Canada, so they can qualify. They could probably go in with the seven Central American countries for an 8 team tournament.

-The 2015 tourney would be in the US because that is the biggest cash cow of them all. Groups would be placed in certain zones of the US to maximize attendance. The author implies that it will also be set up in a way to have a US vs Mexico semi and a Brazil vs Argentina semi, therefore a CONCACAF vs CONMEBOL final. He also goes to say that even though the brackets can be set up for this scenario, it doesn't mean it will happen. This will guarantee sold out stadiums which apparently in the Gold Cup brought in 2-6 million dollars per game

-According to Rafael Salguero, CONCACAF ambassador to FIFA, this tournament would be recognized and backed by FIFA as an official tournament, to guarantee the best players for this mini World Cup. (this is huge)

-The Confederations Cup slots would be determined as so. The champion would automatically get their respective confederations slot. If Brazil is the champion than they would be CONMEBOL's representative or if Mexico is the champion they would be CONCACAF's. To determine the representative for the confederation which is left, the two highest placed countries would play a game to see who goes to the confederation cup (more games more money) For example if Brazil won the final vs Mexico, then Mexico would play another game against the CONCACAF team that went the furthest in the tourney.

- Television rights. Different companies own the rights for CO and CA, but the Author seems to think this would be no problem to figure out, due to the magnitude of money that would come in.

Salguero commented that this plan is not new and had been in the works before, but Warner was the reason why this never happened.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 12:14 PM   #82
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Well listen, I'm sold. But will Brazil be willing to hand over 2015? It would be far more lucrative for them to host the Copa again instead of just participating in one in the US.

And, the one other thing is what the previous poster mentioned, regarding US grassroots being funded by the Gold Cup. Seeing as the US wouldn't be able to host every Copa America, how would they account for that potential loss of income?
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Old July 27th, 2011, 06:23 PM   #83
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A few points:

1) Brazil has actually been angling to switch Copa America for 2015 with Chile, and the US entering the picture may be their opportunity to finally do so. Some in their federation think it's a bridge too far with the 2013 CC, 2014 WC, and 2016 Olympics.

2) "Grassroots" football is funded by the revenues from the television contracts and ticket sales that go directly back to the federation. All federations share in this revenue stream. The income I believe you're referring to is the tourism dollars (which do NOT funnel back to the federations). And yes, the US tourism industry would not benefit if they don't host the tournament. But the USSF would benefit whether the tournament was staged in the US or Peru.

3) The reason why this is being looked at so seriously is that the television rights will almost assuredly skyrocket by involving the North American markets, especially because of the quality/name recognition of the teams, as well as the time zone. Together, the two tournaments can leverage a MUCH more lucrative television rights deal, and that makes it a winner for everyone.

4) This would guarantee FIFA a major tournament every summer (World Cup, CA, Euros, CC)
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Old July 28th, 2011, 01:42 AM   #84
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Why they played this tournament in winter?
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Old July 28th, 2011, 11:22 AM   #85
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Looking Copa on TV I had one question. Why goal on some stadiums (Jujui and some other which I do not remember) have metalic net?
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Old July 28th, 2011, 03:10 PM   #86
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close this thread Zzzzzz bad america cup.... 2011.... ZZZZZ
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Old December 12th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #88
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What about Independiente and Boca stadium? Why are they not selected as hosts?
well im the only one that want to explain this,the president of afa juilio grondona decide use other stadiums for give the chance of see matches of relevance in places like Jujuy,Salta and San juan citys,
if whe ofert the best stadiums whe got the cup probably be played just in Buenos Aires leaving no chance of holding the cup to other cities of the country.
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