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Old August 14th, 2015, 05:10 PM   #61
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Who Knows Buffaboy, maybe one day the extensions will be built.
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When I think there should be news on a proposed project that hasn't been talked about for awhile, sometimes news of it comes out soon after I think about it.
And it's funny too, because yesterday for the first time in two years I actually rode on the rails between Amherst St station and Erie Canal Harbor. When I do go on Metro Rail, it's usually for my own personal enjoyment, but I went to Canalside to avoid finding a parking space.

The trains actually hit a top speed of about 50 miles an hour underground (I sat in the seat behind the cabin).

A rather interesting coincidence, Front page of the Buffalo News this morning:

Expanding the rail commute in Western New York
As the NFTA wraps up a study of expanding into Amherst, support from the community – including UB – is stronger than it’s been in decades

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An expanded rail or bus system stretching from the University at Buffalo’s South Campus on Main Street in Buffalo to its North Campus in Amherst may be as many as seven years in the future, but the concept appears more timely – and popular – than ever.

The Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority is wrapping up a study of how and where to expand into Amherst, and support for expansion appears stronger than it has been at any time since Metro Rail planners inked their first sketches back in the 1970s.

A rail-based expansion would double Metro Rail use to about 50,000 commuters each day.

“Based on our preliminary evaluation, the ridership values are there,” said NFTA Executive Director Kimberley A. Minkel.

What’s more, the “tone we hear out there is that this is overdue,” said Thomas George, director of public transit.

By the end of this year, NFTA planners will recommend either a rail or bus mode, including specific routes. More studies will be requested to determine costs and environmental ramifications. The agency then expects to present a strong case to the federal government for money to build a system linking the city and suburbs, citing increased traffic and development in Amherst and a continuing need for transit links to new development downtown.
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Old August 14th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #62
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must have been a slow news day in Buffalo

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Old August 15th, 2015, 01:16 AM   #63
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Your comment is asinine. A project costing hundreds of millions of dollars is front page news in most cities
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Old August 15th, 2015, 01:30 AM   #64
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Your comment is asinine. A project costing hundreds of millions of dollars is front page news in most cities
There was nothing new reported. Did you even read the article?

Obviously, if such a project were approved or construction started, that would be a different story.
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Old August 16th, 2015, 07:07 AM   #65
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Given that you're in Maine, we'll excuse your ignorance on the importance of this development. Expansion of the light rail system to the suburbs has been a hot-button issue since the rail line was being built back in 80s. The suburbs (full of scared white people) wanted nothing to do with a transportation system that easily transported city dwellers (black people) near their homes.
Now that most of those people have either died or moved out of the area, the remainder of residents see how an expanded metro rail will positively benefit them and are putting pressure on local elected officials who then put pressure on the NFTA (transportation authority who operates the line) to invest more money into a system that has been neglected for decades.
The fact that they're serious about some sort of expansion is huge. Five years ago, they wouldn't even bother with a study.
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Old August 16th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #66
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Given that you're in Maine, we'll excuse your ignorance on the importance of this development. Expansion of the light rail system to the suburbs has been a hot-button issue since the rail line was being built back in 80s. The suburbs (full of scared white people) wanted nothing to do with a transportation system that easily transported city dwellers (black people) near their homes.

Now that most of those people have either died or moved out of the area, the remainder of residents see how an expanded metro rail will positively benefit them and are putting pressure on local elected officials who then put pressure on the NFTA (transportation authority who operates the line) to invest more money into a system that has been neglected for decades.

The fact that they're serious about some sort of expansion is huge. Five years ago, they wouldn't even bother with a study.

It would be even better if they had a study for multiple lines on the table at once, like the Airport Corridor on the previous page.
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Old August 16th, 2015, 07:24 PM   #67
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It would be even better if they had a study for multiple lines on the table at once, like the Airport Corridor on the previous page.
Why cloud the issue and extend the study times with options that they know do not even come close to the density requirements required for federal funding? The only corridor that comes anywhere close to lrrt specs IS the Amherst corridor, and even that is due in large part to UB North
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Old August 16th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #68
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Why cloud the issue and extend the study times with options that they know do not even come close to the density requirements required for federal funding? The only corridor that comes anywhere close to lrrt specs IS the Amherst corridor, and even that is due in large part to UB North

True, but I don't know that we can say that the Airport Corridor isn't dense when we have Canadians coming in to the Galleria/Airport and travelers/residents coming out from these places.
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Yes but zoning changes can be made to to increase the density along a future corridor to help necessitate increased transit investment
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Old August 16th, 2015, 11:49 PM   #70
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Yes but zoning changes can be made to to increase the density along a future corridor to help necessitate increased transit investment

People in Buffalo/Erie County likely don't know this.
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First Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Buffalo

Source : http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf

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Buffalo / Metro Rail - 17,500 (2015)


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Buffalo / Niagara Frontier Trp Auth - 78,400 (2015)
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Old August 27th, 2015, 06:08 AM   #72
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Canadians driving 100 miles to use our airport are not going to switch to mass transit for the final 4 miles of their trip. They are a common Leyte non factor in the mass transit calculations
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Canadians driving 100 miles to use our airport are not going to switch to mass transit for the final 4 miles of their trip. They are a common Leyte non factor in the mass transit calculations

Some might use GORail and then transfer!
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Yes, they'll walk from Niagara Falls ON to Niagara Falls NY so they can transfer to the Metro LOL

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Old August 27th, 2015, 04:27 PM   #75
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Yes, they'll walk from Niagara Falls ON to Niagara Falls NY so they can transfer to the Metro LOL


No, via an Amtrak connection...
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No, via an Amtrak connection...
They just won't
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FTA announces TOD grants
16 Sep 2015

USA: The Federal Transit Administration announced grants totalling $19·5m from its Transit-Oriented Development Planning Pilot Program on September 14. The funding will go towards detailed planning in 17 metropolitan areas.

‘Transit-oriented development is critical to the success of new projects and to the economy of the local communities they serve’, said FTA Acting Administrator Therese McMillan.

Six of the 21 projects concern BRT corridors. The remaining 15 cover a mixture of urban rail modes

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The FTA is to disburse $641 000 to Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority for TOD plans between Buffalo and Amherst, where the authority is studying light rail among other transport options

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How is the light rail/tram ridership these days? If I recall, it started out not so great
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