North Lot Development - Page 2

mSeattle · August 26th, 2011, 09:43 PM

Is the Public Stadium Authority paying for the parking to be constructed? The stadium parking will increase the cost of the offices/residences unless the PSA pays for it.

I say the PSA pays for 10 floors of parking above ground and we get 20 & 35 floor buildings instead of 10 and 25.

CityView Jim · August 26th, 2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mSeattle

Is the Public Stadium Authority paying for the parking to be constructed? The stadium parking will increase the cost of the offices/residences unless the PSA pays for it.

I say the PSA pays for 10 floors of parking above ground and we get 20 & 35 floor buildings instead of 10 and 25.

Hmm. Driving down ten ramps of parking with hundreds of others in the way. Nice way to cap off a day with the Seahawks! LOL

Rogue Linguist · August 27th, 2011, 04:53 AM

Have any of you read the comments in the Seattle Times article on the potential stalling of the North Lot development? The comments are ASININE. People are sooooo brainwashed into driving. Spoiled, spoiled Americans are going to be pissed when they realize that, just as we had to start recycling, we had to start moving in-city and walking more.

mhays · August 27th, 2011, 05:05 AM

Don't worry about the Times/PI comment sections. They're populated by angry shut-ins. The comments are always extremely negative, even for stuff that's extremely popular when it goes to vote. Pick any bond or levy election for example.

CityView Jim · August 27th, 2011, 05:39 AM

Three parking garages within walking distance (4 if you count the 'sinking ship'), two light rail stations, train and busses. What more do we need to accomodate stadium traffic?! Perhaps it's time to move those luxury ticketholders spaces to the garage. Heaven forbid - the door dings!!

Seriously, there are too many ways this issue can be solved.

SteveM · August 27th, 2011, 02:15 PM

Not to mention the ferry terminal. The problem isn't that there isn't enough access, it's that 1st and Goal has nothing to lose by asking for more parking. (And by supply and demand, if there is more parking, parking will be cheaper, which benefits 1st and Goal as the event hosts.)

AzChristopher · August 27th, 2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CityView Jim

Three parking garages within walking distance (4 if you count the 'sinking ship'), two light rail stations, train and busses. What more do we need to accomodate stadium traffic?! Perhaps it's time to move those luxury ticketholders spaces to the garage. Heaven forbid - the door dings!!

Seriously, there are too many ways this issue can be solved.

Side note, I once parked a Chrysler 300M at the sinking ship. That was an experience. Unless I'm driving a model T I'm avoiding doing that again at all costs. Well maybe a Smart Car would work.

I agree. There are plenty of parking spots as is and locals already have their own individual plans of what to do for parking when they get there. When I was a teen I always parked under the viaduct when going to games. When I was younger my mom would always park south outside of one of the warehouses. Now I park somewhere near a lightrail station and take it in.

People will find a way to get to the games.

AzChristopher · September 22nd, 2011, 04:42 PM

http://crosscut.com/2011/09/21/real-...ing-going-on-/

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After years of anticipation and a month of bluffing, feinting, and negotiating, a deal has finally been struck, in outline at least, to let a long-awaited housing development on the north parking lot of the stadium formerly known as Qwest Field go forward. Members of all four parties to the negotiations — King County, the Washington Public Stadium Authority (which owns CenturyLink Field), Paul Allen's First & Goal (which owns the Seahawks and operates the stadium), and Daniels Development, which is building the project — say a deal is imminent or about to be announced. “Everyone is hopeful,” says county spokesperson Frank Abe.

Looks like they are almost past this parking issue speed bump.

LCIII · September 22nd, 2011, 10:43 PM

Thank God.

CityView Jim · September 23rd, 2011, 03:55 AM

Ground breaking is Monday!!

meku · September 23rd, 2011, 05:03 AM

Yeah-ya !

Speaking of the area:

Stadium District Concept Plan (pdf)

CrazyAboutCities · September 23rd, 2011, 07:04 AM

Yay!!!

I really like the Stadium District concept plan a lot. It is looking like it will be fun place to hang out at if it becomes reality.

LCIII · September 23rd, 2011, 07:21 AM

I'm sure it pisses off those who think Pioneer Square should be a family friendly neighborhood but I love the stadium district concept and it will only add to the bars and restaurants in the pioneer square area.

mhays · September 23rd, 2011, 05:11 PM

I'm really happy about the North Lot going forward, assuming it does. Even though I long ago lowered my expectations for what 440 units could do for an urban district, it will have an invigorating, normalizing effect. I won't even mind seeing a few stupid dogs on leashes.

Hopefully others will join them....if I was an apartment developer, I'd see this project as setting the table for subsequent projects...attracting some resident-focused retail, putting more non-drinking people on the street, etc. As a Downtown resident, I think a post-NL Pioneer Square will be way more attractive place to live.

Capitol Hill · September 23rd, 2011, 07:09 PM

Dogs on leashes, people bringing their dogs into the grocery store and being indignant when asked to leave the dog outside.

Women with dogs smaller than their sunglasses sipping mojitos at sidewalk bistros, dog store selling designer outfits that cost more than the clothes I wear on weekends...

Doomgoggles · September 23rd, 2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Capitol Hill

Dogs on leashes, people bringing their dogs into the grocery store and being indignant when asked to leave the dog outside.

Women with dogs smaller than their sunglasses sipping mojitos at sidewalk bistros, dog store selling designer outfits that cost more than the clothes I wear on weekends...

*shudder*

I wish we would stop trying to accommodate dogs everywhere. I want to move into a nice, high-end downtown unit in a building with NO DOGS ALLOWED.

mhays · September 23rd, 2011, 09:37 PM

I'd move to that place in a SECOND. I hate having dogs everywhere. Long leashes tied to idiots who don't care whose way they're in. Freaking dogs in the coffee shop. In my building some jerks even let them off their leashes.

LCIII · September 23rd, 2011, 09:49 PM

Not everyone who has a dog falls into that category. Never have I let my leash affect another on the sidewalk or in my building. My dog doesn't come with me to resturants or to the store. Shes incredibly well-mannered and quiet and has never once been complained about by anyone I've lived around.

Doomgoggles · September 23rd, 2011, 10:19 PM

Then that makes you and your dog the exceptions.

I'm happy to see dogs on good behavior, but in general I try to avoid them. It's just a personal thing for me: barking is the worst sound I can imagine -- to me it's like nails on chalkboard. And I can't live with one because the smell (even a clean one) bothers me.

LCIII · September 23rd, 2011, 10:33 PM

That's actually not true. It's the few that ruin it for the many- as with all things.

I'm actually allergic to dogs and I too am extremely sensitive to dog smells. But my dog gets a bath once every 2 weeks and never has a scent at all.

I guess I'm just saying it's not right to criminalize all dog owners when it's just not justified.

August 26th, 2011, 09:43 PM	#21
mSeattle Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 826 Likes (Received): 12	Is the Public Stadium Authority paying for the parking to be constructed? The stadium parking will increase the cost of the offices/residences unless the PSA pays for it. I say the PSA pays for 10 floors of parking above ground and we get 20 & 35 floor buildings instead of 10 and 25. __________________ *Too Much DOUBT - Troy Davis ExecutionYOU are Commander In Chief* of your body. Remember Bradley Manning.**

August 27th, 2011, 04:53 AM	#23
Rogue Linguist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,694 Likes (Received): 69	Have any of you read the comments in the Seattle Times article on the potential stalling of the North Lot development? The comments are ASININE. People are sooooo brainwashed into driving. Spoiled, spoiled Americans are going to be pissed when they realize that, just as we had to start recycling, we had to start moving in-city and walking more. __________________ Cot-Caught Merged and Proud

September 23rd, 2011, 07:09 PM	#35
Capitol Hill Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,542 Likes (Received): 196	Dogs on leashes, people bringing their dogs into the grocery store and being indignant when asked to leave the dog outside. Women with dogs smaller than their sunglasses sipping mojitos at sidewalk bistros, dog store selling designer outfits that cost more than the clothes I wear on weekends... __________________ I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.

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August 27th, 2011, 05:05 AM	#24
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	Don't worry about the Times/PI comment sections. They're populated by angry shut-ins. The comments are always extremely negative, even for stuff that's extremely popular when it goes to vote. Pick any bond or levy election for example.

August 27th, 2011, 05:39 AM	#25
CityView Jim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,046 Likes (Received): 80	Three parking garages within walking distance (4 if you count the 'sinking ship'), two light rail stations, train and busses. What more do we need to accomodate stadium traffic?! Perhaps it's time to move those luxury ticketholders spaces to the garage. Heaven forbid - the door dings!! Seriously, there are too many ways this issue can be solved.

August 27th, 2011, 02:15 PM	#26
SteveM Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 483 Likes (Received): 3	Not to mention the ferry terminal. The problem isn't that there isn't enough access, it's that 1st and Goal has nothing to lose by asking for more parking. (And by supply and demand, if there is more parking, parking will be cheaper, which benefits 1st and Goal as the event hosts.)

September 22nd, 2011, 10:43 PM	#29
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Thank God.

September 23rd, 2011, 03:55 AM	#30
CityView Jim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,046 Likes (Received): 80	Ground breaking is Monday!!

September 23rd, 2011, 05:03 AM	#31
meku Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 994 Likes (Received): 18	Yeah-ya ! Speaking of the area: Stadium District Concept Plan (pdf)

September 23rd, 2011, 07:04 AM	#32
CrazyAboutCities Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 8,348 Likes (Received): 25	Yay!!! I really like the Stadium District concept plan a lot. It is looking like it will be fun place to hang out at if it becomes reality.

September 23rd, 2011, 07:21 AM	#33
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	I'm sure it pisses off those who think Pioneer Square should be a family friendly neighborhood but I love the stadium district concept and it will only add to the bars and restaurants in the pioneer square area.

September 23rd, 2011, 05:11 PM	#34
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	I'm really happy about the North Lot going forward, assuming it does. Even though I long ago lowered my expectations for what 440 units could do for an urban district, it will have an invigorating, normalizing effect. I won't even mind seeing a few stupid dogs on leashes. Hopefully others will join them....if I was an apartment developer, I'd see this project as setting the table for subsequent projects...attracting some resident-focused retail, putting more non-drinking people on the street, etc. As a Downtown resident, I think a post-NL Pioneer Square will be way more attractive place to live.

September 23rd, 2011, 09:37 PM	#37
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	I'd move to that place in a SECOND. I hate having dogs everywhere. Long leashes tied to idiots who don't care whose way they're in. Freaking dogs in the coffee shop. In my building some jerks even let them off their leashes.

September 23rd, 2011, 09:49 PM	#38
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Not everyone who has a dog falls into that category. Never have I let my leash affect another on the sidewalk or in my building. My dog doesn't come with me to resturants or to the store. Shes incredibly well-mannered and quiet and has never once been complained about by anyone I've lived around.

September 23rd, 2011, 10:19 PM	#39
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 766 Likes (Received): 50	Then that makes you and your dog the exceptions. I'm happy to see dogs on good behavior, but in general I try to avoid them. It's just a personal thing for me: barking is the worst sound I can imagine -- to me it's like nails on chalkboard. And I can't live with one because the smell (even a clean one) bothers me.

September 23rd, 2011, 10:33 PM	#40
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	That's actually not true. It's the few that ruin it for the many- as with all things. I'm actually allergic to dogs and I too am extremely sensitive to dog smells. But my dog gets a bath once every 2 weeks and never has a scent at all. I guess I'm just saying it's not right to criminalize all dog owners when it's just not justified.