Waterfront Seattle - Page 3

Nutterbug · August 22nd, 2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwalker

Cascade ski resorts are too low to offer world class skiing. The snow, combined with the weather are not conducive to major resort development. This is why we have what we have today. Whistler suffers from some of the same issues, but is higher in elevation and also gains from being "the" resort of the glamorous west coast city of Canada.

Ah there you go!

As such, Seattle should be striving to be the glamorous northwest coast city of America. It has the right location for it. A large part of it is in its waterfront. Having a big ugly noisy viaduct isn't it. How you dress it up in large part will make or break your city's image.

LCIII · August 22nd, 2011, 06:45 AM

Tons of pictures of the James Corner Field Operations design here. Warning: it's over 150 pages.

http://waterfrontseattle.org/upload/...ic_Meeting.pdf

Seasun · September 4th, 2011, 07:24 PM

Nice cheap PR for new waterfront - chairs on short cable leashes at pier 62/63.
Don't think I'll find mhays using these as there's no shade!

mhays · September 4th, 2011, 08:49 PM

I'm getting a sunburn just looking at them!

Nutterbug · September 5th, 2011, 01:19 AM

Is mhays a ginger?

mhays · September 5th, 2011, 07:56 AM

No, Eric, a human. We don't like heat, glare, or sunburns.

Nutterbug · September 5th, 2011, 02:26 PM

I meant a redhead.

And my name is not Eric.

mhays · September 6th, 2011, 06:37 PM

Eric Cartman. Hafta watch the show.

LCIII · October 13th, 2011, 06:53 PM

Today's DJC:

SEATTLE — James Corner Field Operations is creating a sweeping re-design for Seattle’s waterfront area. On Oct. 27, Corner will speak at a public design update at Bell Harbor Conference Center.

The event runs from 5-9 p.m. with Corner speaking at 6:30 p.m. RSVP by sending an email to rsvp@waterfrontseattle.org.

Rogue Linguist · October 13th, 2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCIII

Today's DJC:

SEATTLE — James Corner Field Operations is creating a sweeping re-design for Seattle’s waterfront area. On Oct. 27, Corner will speak at a public design update at Bell Harbor Conference Center.

The event runs from 5-9 p.m. with Corner speaking at 6:30 p.m. RSVP by sending an email to rsvp@waterfrontseattle.org.

Are they re-designing their own design, or just re-designing the present waterfront with their original design?

I can't wait till eight years from now when (hopefully) it will be complete!

Seasun · October 13th, 2011, 09:50 PM

I don't think they have a design yet based on the previous meetings. Sounds like this is an update to see where they're headed with schematic design.

LCIII · October 13th, 2011, 10:21 PM

What do you call all of the renderings we've seen if they aren't a design?

BoulderGrad · October 13th, 2011, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCIII

What do you call all of the renderings we've seen if they aren't a design?

Vision proposals? Pretty pictures to get us interested?

Seasun · October 13th, 2011, 11:14 PM

I just checked waterfrontseattle.org and I don't see any real designs just a few conceptual renderings. As BoulderGrad says these are pretty pictures to get us interested in the possibilities. I assume the upcoming meeting will really show some early design for the entire waterfront not just a couple of renderings.

LCIII · October 13th, 2011, 11:54 PM

I must have been thrown off by the words "preliminary DESIGN concepts"...

http://waterfrontseattle.org/upload/...ic_Meeting.pdf

BoulderGrad · October 14th, 2011, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCIII

I must have been thrown off by the words "preliminary DESIGN concepts"...

http://waterfrontseattle.org/upload/...ic_Meeting.pdf

If you've worked in any kind of engineering or design discipline, the words "Preliminary" and "design" are usually translated as "pretty" and "pictures"

LCIII · October 14th, 2011, 02:39 AM

No. I'm certain they mean the same that they mean in other industries. That means it's a rough draft of sorts and certainly not the final product but not a random assortment of "pretty pictures." You're telling me they have no intention of going down that design path even though that design direction is why they were selected by the powers that be for the job? No.

mhays · October 14th, 2011, 04:39 AM

Believe the industry guys. They know what they're talking about.

In this case what you've seen represent some initial concepts. Pretty pictures is about right. They're concept renderings.

It would be ok to call them "predesign."

LCIII · October 14th, 2011, 06:31 AM

That's laughable. At what point does it become a design? It IS a design now it's just the first draft. It will obviously change as things proceed based on the feedback they receive but the city didn't pick them over the other firms based on 'pretty pictures.' They picked them for their design- for their vision for the project.

But you can call it whatever you want.

mhays · October 14th, 2011, 07:28 AM

Give it a rest! You obviously aren't connected to this stuff beyond being a fan. We are.

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August 22nd, 2011, 06:45 AM	#42
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Tons of pictures of the James Corner Field Operations design here. Warning: it's over 150 pages. http://waterfrontseattle.org/upload/...ic_Meeting.pdf

September 4th, 2011, 07:24 PM	#43
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,600 Likes (Received): 48	Nice cheap PR for new waterfront - chairs on short cable leashes at pier 62/63. Don't think I'll find mhays using these as there's no shade!

September 4th, 2011, 08:49 PM	#44
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	I'm getting a sunburn just looking at them!

September 5th, 2011, 01:19 AM	#45
Nutterbug Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,053 Likes (Received): 0	Is mhays a ginger?

September 5th, 2011, 07:56 AM	#46
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	No, Eric, a human. We don't like heat, glare, or sunburns.

September 5th, 2011, 02:26 PM	#47
Nutterbug Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,053 Likes (Received): 0	I meant a redhead. And my name is not Eric.

September 6th, 2011, 06:37 PM	#48
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	Eric Cartman. Hafta watch the show.

October 13th, 2011, 06:53 PM	#49
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	Today's DJC: SEATTLE — James Corner Field Operations is creating a sweeping re-design for Seattle’s waterfront area. On Oct. 27, Corner will speak at a public design update at Bell Harbor Conference Center. The event runs from 5-9 p.m. with Corner speaking at 6:30 p.m. RSVP by sending an email to rsvp@waterfrontseattle.org.

October 13th, 2011, 09:50 PM	#51
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,600 Likes (Received): 48	I don't think they have a design yet based on the previous meetings. Sounds like this is an update to see where they're headed with schematic design.

October 13th, 2011, 10:21 PM	#52
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	What do you call all of the renderings we've seen if they aren't a design?

October 13th, 2011, 11:14 PM	#54
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,600 Likes (Received): 48	I just checked waterfrontseattle.org and I don't see any real designs just a few conceptual renderings. As BoulderGrad says these are pretty pictures to get us interested in the possibilities. I assume the upcoming meeting will really show some early design for the entire waterfront not just a couple of renderings.

October 13th, 2011, 11:54 PM	#55
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	I must have been thrown off by the words "preliminary DESIGN concepts"... http://waterfrontseattle.org/upload/...ic_Meeting.pdf

October 14th, 2011, 02:39 AM	#57
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	No. I'm certain they mean the same that they mean in other industries. That means it's a rough draft of sorts and certainly not the final product but not a random assortment of "pretty pictures." You're telling me they have no intention of going down that design path even though that design direction is why they were selected by the powers that be for the job? No.

October 14th, 2011, 04:39 AM	#58
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,470 Likes (Received): 125	Believe the industry guys. They know what they're talking about. In this case what you've seen represent some initial concepts. Pretty pictures is about right. They're concept renderings. It would be ok to call them "predesign."

October 14th, 2011, 06:31 AM	#59
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,888 Likes (Received): 66	That's laughable. At what point does it become a design? It IS a design now it's just the first draft. It will obviously change as things proceed based on the feedback they receive but the city didn't pick them over the other firms based on 'pretty pictures.' They picked them for their design- for their vision for the project. But you can call it whatever you want.