Waterfront Seattle - Page 6

SJM · February 8th, 2012, 07:20 PM

That would definitely be a welcome addition in my book.

Rogue Linguist · February 8th, 2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CityView Jim

Something great MAY come of this:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...rfront08m.html

The title of the article kind of suggests that any proposed link between the Market and the waterfront would be too expensive, but the article doesn't say that--it suggests that a scaled back link might be feasible with bonds and levies. I like the current proposal too, but it seems awfully concrete-y. I sure would like more green space coverage.

xyagentguy · February 19th, 2012, 03:52 AM

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Pittsburgh has two, maybe a half-mile apart. I'd say they go pretty far...wild guess a 400' vertical on a hill too steep for streets.

My old stomping grounds. I've been on these both COUNTLESS times. The views from the top are utterly breathtaking. A piercing view of one of the most underrated, most beautiful cities in all of America. And I'm not just saying that cause I grew up there. Like Seattle and rain, Pittsburgh suffers from deep, deep, misguided notions from times that no longer exists (aka a heavy soot in all the air!).

On another note, this project is INCREDIBLE. I cannot WAIT. What the heck, Seattle is like BURSTING right now, it's all revving up it seems.

bgwah · February 19th, 2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CityView Jim

Something great MAY come of this:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...rfront08m.html

Build it, please.

xyagentguy · February 19th, 2012, 04:24 AM

This stuff is scheduled to START in 2016????? BAH!!!!

bgwah · February 19th, 2012, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xyagentguy

This stuff is scheduled to START in 2016????? BAH!!!!

Why does that surprise you? That's when the tunnel will be finished (and the viaduct removed).

Capitol Hill · February 19th, 2012, 04:45 AM

And it gives some time to figure out how to PAY for it.

Ruffhauser · February 19th, 2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bgwah

Why does that surprise you? That's when the tunnel will be finished (and the viaduct removed).

Exactly. It would be great to have a plan in place and have some preliminary staging work done, but bottom line; none of these things are happening until the Viaduct is down and gone.

jam5 · February 19th, 2012, 05:48 PM

While it's a shame there has to be a boulevard put in so soon after the viaduct is taken out, as long as there are plenty of traffic lights, stopwalks, wide sidewalks with vegetated buffers, and other pedestrian-friendly items put in, I guess I can live with this.

LCIII · February 19th, 2012, 07:55 PM

Well we'll be the ones actually living with it and everyone at all the design meetings is overwhelmingly positive so...

Doomgoggles · February 22nd, 2012, 03:08 AM

Here's your waterfront connection AND iconic Cap Hill tower in one nifty proposal:

http://citytank.org/2012/02/21/a-gon...cherry-on-top/

bgwah · February 22nd, 2012, 03:57 AM

...Eh

JiminyCricket · February 22nd, 2012, 04:48 AM

I like the Capitol Hill tower, that'd be neat to see even if it would be out of place.... But that tram would just be cheesy as all hell.

mhays · February 22nd, 2012, 05:57 AM

The largest difficulty: you can't count on those privately-developed highrises to get built along the route. Not on your schedule and possibly not ever. So you'd do one segment at first by developing both towers at once as one coordinated project, which would happen only when the market was right. Then other segments as able, probably later.

alexjonlin · February 22nd, 2012, 06:09 AM

Cheesy as hell? I honestly can't think of any mode that would work better for that route.

SJM · February 22nd, 2012, 07:27 AM

I think its pretty cool. I mean NY has a tram, maybe not to this extent though.

LCIII · February 22nd, 2012, 07:40 AM

I think it's a cool fantasy project. Would LOVE the iconic tower though.

bgwah · February 22nd, 2012, 08:11 AM

I think the gondola would be ugly.

Yes please to the tower on Capitol Hill, though.

Doomgoggles · February 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM

I *personally* don't think the Gondola is the best way to go -- I'd rather just use a subway/streetcar combination. I mean, we can already get to Westlake in like 3-4 minutes from Cap Hill when the Link is done, then just get rapid service to Western, and a funicular to the waterfront.

I did think you guys would love the tower though.

bgwah · February 22nd, 2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomgoggles

I *personally* don't think the Gondola is the best way to go -- I'd rather just use a subway/streetcar combination. I mean, we can already get to Westlake in like 3-4 minutes from Cap Hill when the Link is done, then just get rapid service to Western, and a funicular to the waterfront.

I did think you guys would love the tower though.

They've been talking about a Capitol Hill tower for a while now. I kind of doubt it will happen, though.

February 19th, 2012, 04:45 AM	#107
Capitol Hill Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,524 Likes (Received): 195	And it gives some time to figure out how to PAY for it. __________________ I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way.

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jam5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 484 Likes (Received): 5	While it's a shame there has to be a boulevard put in so soon after the viaduct is taken out, as long as there are plenty of traffic lights, stopwalks, wide sidewalks with vegetated buffers, and other pedestrian-friendly items put in, I guess I can live with this. Last edited by jam5; February 19th, 2012 at 06:46 PM.

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February 8th, 2012, 07:20 PM	#101
SJM Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,233 Likes (Received): 3	That would definitely be a welcome addition in my book.

February 19th, 2012, 04:24 AM	#105
xyagentguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 219 Likes (Received): 5	This stuff is scheduled to START in 2016????? BAH!!!!

February 19th, 2012, 07:55 PM	#110
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,887 Likes (Received): 66	Well we'll be the ones actually living with it and everyone at all the design meetings is overwhelmingly positive so...

February 22nd, 2012, 03:08 AM	#111
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 765 Likes (Received): 50	Here's your waterfront connection AND iconic Cap Hill tower in one nifty proposal: http://citytank.org/2012/02/21/a-gon...cherry-on-top/

February 22nd, 2012, 03:57 AM	#112
bgwah honk!!! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,778 Likes (Received): 81	...Eh

February 22nd, 2012, 04:48 AM	#113
JiminyCricket Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 495 Likes (Received): 45	I like the Capitol Hill tower, that'd be neat to see even if it would be out of place.... But that tram would just be cheesy as all hell.

February 22nd, 2012, 05:57 AM	#114
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,461 Likes (Received): 125	The largest difficulty: you can't count on those privately-developed highrises to get built along the route. Not on your schedule and possibly not ever. So you'd do one segment at first by developing both towers at once as one coordinated project, which would happen only when the market was right. Then other segments as able, probably later.

February 22nd, 2012, 06:09 AM	#115
alexjonlin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,284 Likes (Received): 89	Cheesy as hell? I honestly can't think of any mode that would work better for that route.

February 22nd, 2012, 07:27 AM	#116
SJM Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,233 Likes (Received): 3	I think its pretty cool. I mean NY has a tram, maybe not to this extent though.

February 22nd, 2012, 07:40 AM	#117
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,887 Likes (Received): 66	I think it's a cool fantasy project. Would LOVE the iconic tower though.

February 22nd, 2012, 08:11 AM	#118
bgwah honk!!! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,778 Likes (Received): 81	I think the gondola would be ugly. Yes please to the tower on Capitol Hill, though.

February 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM	#119
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 765 Likes (Received): 50	I personally don't think the Gondola is the best way to go -- I'd rather just use a subway/streetcar combination. I mean, we can already get to Westlake in like 3-4 minutes from Cap Hill when the Link is done, then just get rapid service to Western, and a funicular to the waterfront. I did think you guys would love the tower though.