#Approved: 2-4 Edmonstone St, South Brisbane - 30st/96m/res

[asdfg]

Originally Posted by KJBrissy

I'm on the fence. It entirely depends on how it looks post construction.

Same here.

This will have amazing views of the city.

[duke]

Great location. Just across the road from the West End Markets shopping centre and a minutes' walk from the Melbourne/Boundary Streets Intersection.

[peetone]

Good god, all I can see is concrete - words like "light" and "airy" would not be the words I'd use to describe the street frontage and people scale

[Levathian]

Originally Posted by duke

Great location. Just across the road from the West End Markets shopping centre and a minutes' walk from the Melbourne/Boundary Streets Intersection.

You can see the site from the Markets driveway

[nathandavid88]

Right on time que the NIMBY's:

Tensions rise over tower plan for West End
Marissa Calligeros
July 22, 2011 - 3:01AM
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A proposal for a 30-storey apartment building in the heart of West End has drawn the ire of local residents.

The application for the Aria Property Group tower on 2-4 Edmondstone Street is the first lodged under Brisbane City Council's new Riverside Neighbourhood Plan, which allows maximum building heights of 30 storeys in South Brisbane.

West End Community Association president Darren Godwell said the proposal was out of step with residents' expectations for the area.

"This is certainly consistent with the concerns residents had about what is likely to be there," he said.

"You could not find a more dramatic demonstration of inappropriate development."

He said the tower could be the first of many to erode the character of South Brisbane and West End.

"The character of the neighbourhood seems pretty clear - it's high density residential in medium-rise form," Mr Godwell said.

Under the proposal, the apartment tower will feature a four-level vertical plant "green wall".

The ground floor will also house a mix of shops, cafes and offices, with 150 one-bedroom units, 75 two-bedroom units and 50 three-bedroom units above.

Council's Neighbourhood Planning chairman Amanda Cooper said the proposal was sensible.

"This development makes sense because South Brisbane is not only close to the CBD, but also has access to a wide range of public transport options and some of the best social and community services in Brisbane," she said.

"That said our officers will be going through this development application with a fine-tooth comb to ensure it meets the high standards of development set by our neighbourhood plan."

Cr Cooper said buildings of 30 storeys were necessary in part because the state government has said it needs to find space for 156,000 new homes in southeast Queensland.

"Putting high-density living in old industrial areas close to the CBD means we can protect our tin and timber suburbs," she said.

However, Mr Godwell said 96 per cent of 5487 submissions made to the council in response to the Riverside Neighbourhood Plan rejected the development of 30 storey high-rises in the suburb, but supported medium-rise [six to eight storey] developments.

"This will be the most blaring illustration of how planning in this city has seriously gone off the rails," he said.

Aria Property Group yesterday declined to respond to the criticism.

Brisbane City Council estimates the population of South Brisbane and West End will increase by 312.5 per cent over the next 20 years.

The Riverside Neighbourhood Plan, which allows heights of 30 storeys around Peel Street, South Brisbane, 12 storeys along the Brisbane River south of Davies Park and 15 storeys in the Boundary Street precinct.

Mr Godwell also expressed concerns about the development's impact on traffic in the area, although the proposal includes 306 car spaces for the 275 units.

"The traffic impact will be insurmountable for the neighbourhood," he said.

"Local residents are going to pay for this mishmash of neighbourhood planning."

Gabba ward councillor Helen Abrahams said she shared the community’s concerns about the proposal.

“A 30 storey building will cause overshadowing with [neighbouring] units being in shadow for much of the day,” she said.

“I did not support the South Brisbane Riverside Plan and I do not support this application. I am of the strong belief that high rise buildings do not create high density, but they do create unacceptable impacts for the existing local community.”

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busi...#ixzz1SmUdeSBq

Brisbane Times

[Marty_]

Hang my objections - I want this one to go ahead just so I can thumb my nose at the nimby's.

[nathandavid88]

Hopefully it will be the first of many in that area to make it up to the 20 – 30st height bracket in that "Kurilpa precinct".

I really don't get the West End NIMBY's...yes, there are some nice heritage buildings that shouldn't be knocked down (and in a lot of cases, I imagine won't), but a lot of the areas are these old 70-80's era single story commercial junk that the sooner we can get rid of it, the better.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Marty_

Hang my objections - I want this one to go ahead just so I can thumb my nose at the nimby's.

Yeah same, if there is one thing I hate more than too much painted concrete, it's frakkin nimbys.

So build it, just to teach em a lesson!

[Samuel77]

agreed. i change my stance. build it.

[brizguy]

I agree now, if anything it isn't ugly enough.

[dannydeckchair]

Originally Posted by nathandavid88

Hopefully it will be the first of many in that area to make it up to the 20 – 30st height bracket in that "Kurilpa precinct".

I really don't get the West End NIMBY's...yes, there are some nice heritage buildings that shouldn't be knocked down (and in a lot of cases, I imagine won't), but a lot of the areas are these old 70-80's era single story commercial junk that the sooner we can get rid of it, the better.

As someone commented on the BT article, it's because they enjoy their suburban lifestyle in an inner city location and do not want it to change. Unfortunately for them, you can not resist change in the face of population growth. These pseudo-green residents would rather see the government cut down trees between here and the Gold Coast to build dwellings, increasing the reliance on fossil fuels and clogging our arterial motorways. Urban sprawl is a horrible alternative, but as long as it isn't in their backyard they don't care.

[Levathian]

But the building that's currently there has no aesthetic qualities at all!!!

Fucking NIMBYs!

[nathandavid88]

Very true Dannydeckchair. The NIMBY's often use the green argument against there sort of developments without realising/caring the alternative is urban sprawl. As long as it's not happening near them, then it's not their problem even if they are the cause of it!

[BenAffleck]

Developers would of been aware to the NIMBY backlash. Makes me wonder why this building is not a far, far, far better one.

[JayT]

LOL @ NIMBY's - "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children"...

[Levathian]

@Neslom: "people of west end and south brisbane up till now have been able to enjoy a Suburan lifestyle within the city but that can not last". Why not? Why can't they build it on the other side of the CBD? In Bowen Hills, Spring Hill or somewhere... Plenty of space on the OTHER side! Preserve West End as a village-type suburb within the city. It would be unique and perhaps tourist attraction. I think it is great, refreshing and a bit more relaxing to so close to the city and not be surrounded by high-rises. And look at the modernist gas chamber..so uninspiring, just like every other building.. this city has no soul..all the old buildings get removed, anything a little bohemian or interesting is torn down for glass, concrete and aluminium! Cloudland, Bellvue, Festival Hall, the little coffee warehouse cafe down the lane, under the boomgate in between Elizabeth and Charlotte streets,, Come on! West End is the most interesting suburb Brisbane has- community, bohemian,relaxed, character buildings... it's like a little town inside a big city; an oasis. Please don't do this. This city is depressing enough with it's developments that erase our history.
Whynot? | Hill End - July 22, 2011, 9:05AM

Oh dear
Bris Times commenters shit me off..

West End is hardly a 'village'. Give me a break.

As for Helen Abrahams:

“A 30 storey building will cause overshadowing with [neighbouring] units being in shadow for much of the day,” she said.
“I did not support the South Brisbane Riverside Plan and I do not support this application. I am of the strong belief that high rise buildings do not create high density, but they do create unacceptable impacts for the existing local community.”

High rise =/= high density???

[Davidols]

Originally Posted by Levathian

Oh dear
Bris Times commenters shit me off..

West End is hardly a 'village'. Give me a break.

As for Helen Abrahams:


High rise =/= high density???

New Farm is our village, and it is much nicer

Level West End and build us a 2nd CBD there ... So I have something to look at from my office desk rather than some crappy houses and a cement works.

[Levathian]

Demolish that cess pool under the railway line near the Parmalat factory too. I've never felt safe down there.

[brizguy]

I just don't get what the big deal is , It's not like there are stunning houses etc, just a bunch of fibre shacks.

[bribri]

Originally Posted by brizguy

I just don't get what the big deal is , It's not like there are stunning houses etc, just a bunch of fibre shacks.

The "deal" is that those tie dye wearing, dreadlock encrusted West End bohemian types are the biggest snobs around.They hate the thought of anyone unlike them in their neighbourhood. Their hypocritical narrow mindedness is truly astonishing. A project like this just detracts from their digs, in their opinion, because it brings in more people. It truly is based on snobbery.