#Approved: 2-4 Edmonstone St, South Brisbane - 30st/96m/res - Page 3

brizguy · July 22nd, 2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bribri

The "deal" is that those tie dye wearing, dreadlock encrusted West End bohemian types are the biggest snobs around.They hate the thought of anyone unlike them in their neighbourhood. Their hypocritical narrow mindedness is truly astonishing. A project like this just detracts from their digs, in their opinion, because it brings in more people. It truly is based on snobbery.

I wonder what jobs they all do, chances are 85% of them are the useless bureaucrats we keep hearing about in government.

Sherwoood · July 23rd, 2011, 12:33 PM

I love apartment buildings but hate this one. Ugly. Horrible podium. Wrong location for this building. Move it to the Gold Coast.

Dimethyltryptamine · July 23rd, 2011, 12:35 PM

maybe in the 90s it would have been accepted on the Gold Coast, but most of what's going up is far higher quality than this. It would fit in with Brisbane, actually. Midtown.... the one on Manning Street... kuwalahteee.

OUTOFNOWHERE · July 24th, 2011, 06:25 AM

Any fool living within 10KM of the Brisbane CBD has to know by now that the days of inner city suburbs with one and two story dwellings is coming to an end!! Think about it, The Gabba, West End, Kelvin Grove, Toowong, Hamilton, Bowen Hills, Chermside, Newmarket, Stones Corner, Upper Mt Gravatt etc! If i was the owner of a inner city house i would be holding on only to sell to a developer in the years to come!! Whilst i would hate to see the inner circle of Brisbane become Manhattanised (look at what Melburnians did to their Southbank), inner Brisbane is increasing its density and this isn't going to stop just because a few residents want to keep things the way they are. Individual projects may be blocked but the trend over all is UP, UP, UP!

fish.01 · July 24th, 2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OUTOFNOWHERE

Any fool living within 10KM of the Brisbane CBD has to know by now that the days of inner city suburbs with one and two story dwellings is coming to an end!! Think about it, The Gabba, West End, Kelvin Grove, Toowong, Hamilton, Bowen Hills, Chermside, Newmarket, Stones Corner, Upper Mt Gravatt etc! If i was the owner of a inner city house i would be holding on only to sell to a developer in the years to come!! Whilst i would hate to see the inner circle of Brisbane become Manhattanised (look at what Melburnians did to their Southbank), inner Brisbane is increasing its density and this isn't going to stop just because a few residents want to keep things the way they are. Individual projects may be blocked but the trend over all is UP, UP, UP!

While making your point you seem to have over generalised...masses of the inner city 10km will remain low rise residential with no need, or in many cases planning permission, to sell to a developer - in fact the majority of it. Yes some pockets of the suburbs in the first 10km will contain high density but still a low proportion overall. Maybe I am taking you too literally.

nathandavid88 · July 24th, 2011, 01:24 PM

I agree fish.01. There are still a lot of Demolition Controlled Precincts within many inner suburbs, for example, that won't be redeveloped, and nor should they. We can't have the whole city becoming a jungle of high density apartment complexes. Different suburbs must continue to retain their history and character.

Parts of areas such as New Farm, Fortitude Valley, Woolloongabba and West End, as examples, should be protected because they do have amounts of character buildings which are unique and irreplaceable. However, all these suburbs also have areas where higher density can and must be added to accommodate a growing population.

It's a balancing act, and the people of West End, and indeed other NIMBY suburbs need to get off their high horses and realise that the parts that are worth saving will be, but they can't have their cake and eat it - their suburb will have to change with the times!

fish.01 · July 24th, 2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nathandavid88

I agree fish.01. There are still a lot of Demolition Controlled Precincts within many inner suburbs, for example, that won't be redeveloped, and nor should they. We can't have the whole city becoming a jungle of high density apartment complexes. Different suburbs must continue to retain their history and character.

Parts of areas such as New Farm, Fortitude Valley, Woolloongabba and West End, as examples, should be protected because they do have amounts of character buildings which are unique and irreplaceable. However, all these suburbs also have areas where higher density can and must be added to accommodate a growing population.

It's a balancing act, and the people of West End, and indeed other NIMBY suburbs need to get off their high horses and realise that the parts that are worth saving will be, but they can't have their cake and eat it - their suburb will have to change with the times!

Like most things in life I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Some people in west end are against development at all costs but I think the population is a lot more diverse already. Many a run down home is $800,000+ and owned by someone who never see's the end of a splif. Likewise some developers couldn't care what state they leave brisbane in as long as they pocket their money while other developers have the vision and get up and go to make an honest profit while leaving us better street activation, density etc. - and risk their own money in the process.

I have noticed there are serious town planning arguments that more modest sized medium density apts give a better more liveable result in the long term - e.g. tenerrife/powerhouse area but then I'm guessing they may not provide enough density everywhere?

Iain1976 · July 28th, 2011, 12:38 PM

I am in favour of density and an interesting city, but dumbass concrete blocks don't actually achieve that. Kangaroo Point anyone? It is not unreasonable for West End people to want to protect part of the city that is actually a little different from all the rest of it. One of the worst things about Brisbane is the seemingly relentless drive to make everything and everyone the same, often disguised as so called progress. We should actually be encouraging diversity in neighbourhoods, not trying to destroy it. I find it a little difficult to understand why one suburb that is slightly more friendly towards a different kind of person results in such a lot of bile.

KJBrissy · April 4th, 2012, 10:30 AM

Should the title of this be changed to approve?

Anyone know how this is travelling?

neilo63 · April 4th, 2012, 12:03 PM

Jesus we missed that - it was approved on the 15/11/11.

SoulvisionQ1 · April 4th, 2012, 03:12 PM

Aria seem to have a lot on their plate... Station 16, Artisan, the Vine and this one. Seems like this may go to market later on in the year?

Orfeo · March 2nd, 2013, 05:48 AM

looks like this one has been shrunk 'in response to the market'

shame. da here

SoulvisionQ1 · March 13th, 2013, 01:57 AM

Woops wrong thread!

Arena now approved:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1563191&page=5

asdfg · March 13th, 2013, 02:13 AM

They have been spamming residents in the West End with Arena flyers for a few weeks now. It's also on a few bus stops.

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July 23rd, 2011, 12:33 PM	#42
Sherwoood Brisbane Investor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brisbane Posts: 16 Likes (Received): 0	I love apartment buildings but hate this one. Ugly. Horrible podium. Wrong location for this building. Move it to the Gold Coast.

July 23rd, 2011, 12:35 PM	#43
Dimethyltryptamine Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,765 Likes (Received): 592	maybe in the 90s it would have been accepted on the Gold Coast, but most of what's going up is far higher quality than this. It would fit in with Brisbane, actually. Midtown.... the one on Manning Street... kuwalahteee.

July 24th, 2011, 06:25 AM	#44
OUTOFNOWHERE Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney and Gold Coast Posts: 394 Likes (Received): 9	Any fool living within 10KM of the Brisbane CBD has to know by now that the days of inner city suburbs with one and two story dwellings is coming to an end!! Think about it, The Gabba, West End, Kelvin Grove, Toowong, Hamilton, Bowen Hills, Chermside, Newmarket, Stones Corner, Upper Mt Gravatt etc! If i was the owner of a inner city house i would be holding on only to sell to a developer in the years to come!! Whilst i would hate to see the inner circle of Brisbane become Manhattanised (look at what Melburnians did to their Southbank), inner Brisbane is increasing its density and this isn't going to stop just because a few residents want to keep things the way they are. Individual projects may be blocked but the trend over all is UP, UP, UP!

July 24th, 2011, 01:24 PM	#46
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,136 Likes (Received): 280	I agree fish.01. There are still a lot of Demolition Controlled Precincts within many inner suburbs, for example, that won't be redeveloped, and nor should they. We can't have the whole city becoming a jungle of high density apartment complexes. Different suburbs must continue to retain their history and character. Parts of areas such as New Farm, Fortitude Valley, Woolloongabba and West End, as examples, should be protected because they do have amounts of character buildings which are unique and irreplaceable. However, all these suburbs also have areas where higher density can and must be added to accommodate a growing population. It's a balancing act, and the people of West End, and indeed other NIMBY suburbs need to get off their high horses and realise that the parts that are worth saving will be, but they can't have their cake and eat it - their suburb will have to change with the times!

July 28th, 2011, 12:38 PM	#48
Iain1976 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane Posts: 51 Likes (Received): 3	I am in favour of density and an interesting city, but dumbass concrete blocks don't actually achieve that. Kangaroo Point anyone? It is not unreasonable for West End people to want to protect part of the city that is actually a little different from all the rest of it. One of the worst things about Brisbane is the seemingly relentless drive to make everything and everyone the same, often disguised as so called progress. We should actually be encouraging diversity in neighbourhoods, not trying to destroy it. I find it a little difficult to understand why one suburb that is slightly more friendly towards a different kind of person results in such a lot of bile.

April 4th, 2012, 03:12 PM	#51
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,197 Likes (Received): 79	Aria seem to have a lot on their plate... Station 16, Artisan, the Vine and this one. Seems like this may go to market later on in the year?

March 2nd, 2013, 05:48 AM	#52
Orfeo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,392 Likes (Received): 14	looks like this one has been shrunk 'in response to the market' shame. da here

March 13th, 2013, 02:13 AM	#54
asdfg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,056 Likes (Received): 70	They have been spamming residents in the West End with Arena flyers for a few weeks now. It's also on a few bus stops.