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Old April 10th, 2013, 07:43 PM   #901
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2 supertalls in this proposal now?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #902
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Old Post Office renovation proposal Phase 1 rendering from west

http://blog.chicagoarchitecture.info...ry-skyscraper/


Old Post Office renovation proposal phase 1 tower in the center
and phase 2 towers at left and right


http://blog.chicagoarchitecture.info...ry-skyscraper/

Crude idealizations but as the approval process grinds on, the renders should come into focus.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:20 PM   #903
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I'm so happy this isn't dead. I hope they will start with the second phase asap. I can't wait to see a new tallest for Chicago, the entire country and in fact, the entire western hemisphere
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Old April 10th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #904
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A very good rundown by BVictor (of SSC/SSP) who went to the project meeting the other night. I don't think he would mind me tranfering his observations........

-PD 1065
-previously approved about 6-7 years ago.
-DX-12 not changing underlying zoning
-not planning on changing uses.
-not looking for state, county or federal monies on this project
-has possession of the Holiday Inn site on Canal

-Renovate and restore the old main lobby of Post Office
-Parking facility on Holiday Inn site multi level with bridges crossing Canal to OMPO

-tunnel down to the blue line Clinton stop for access
-working with the building department currently
-Develop site in 2 separate phases
-want to add future buildings as time goes by

-Residential units at north and south end of the post office and top most floor
parking and 3 floors of retail in old structure
-1,000' tower hotel(320)/office /residences (800) 100 stories along river between Congress & Van Buren

-Phase 2 add 2 taller buildings one which would be on top of parking garage 1,000' tall and another 3rd tower which would be about 1,600' to roof and 2,000' to top of masts.

-Winter gardens along river at Van Buren and Harrison and will act as a base.
-5 levels extending out from the post office on river
-river edge will be developed
-retail space 800,000 sq ft which will extent into the OMPO building
-4 levels of parking under retail along river

-atriums will be cut into top of OMPO to allow for light in residential units along the top floor.

-reusing old loading docks

-contributing land to Amtrak for HSR

-atriums between old and new building to allow visibility of old post office

-automated parking in OMPO

-all facades of the old building will be restored. already reviewed by park service and the state. Plan on getting the structure landmarked and will be looking for a tax credit.

-working with different funding sources
-100% union
-add and improve ventilation shafts for railroad
-already in communication with Amtrak
-no classification for casino at the time…
-KLOA in process of conducting traffic study

Phase 1
retail 800,000
residential 2,900
office 525,000
Hotel 320
parking 5,700 (2450 automated)
5.2 million sq. ft including renovation of OMPO
$1.25 - 1.5 billion for phase 1
5-7 years

Phase 2
residential 3500
office 1,500,000
hotel 920
+ 5,000,000 sq. ft. of space

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Old April 10th, 2013, 10:12 PM   #905
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wow so we might get 3 supertalls here?
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Old April 10th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #906
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people may hate me for it, but i do hope the spire site will not get a building as tall as the spire was. a good 200m-400m building is great, but the location really takes away from what i love about chicago, because it is so far outside at the sea. i think the central downtown skyline looks so amazing and i really like this area so much more suited for a possible megatall. Another thing i did not like about chicago spire was its design. This tower however seems to become a Sears taller brother style building which i approve of a lot more. Chicago has a very great balanced boxy skyline. The tallest tower also should be a big box in my opinion or at least suit the whole chicago style.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 12:32 AM   #907
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people may hate me for it, but i do hope the spire site will not get a building as tall as the spire was. a good 200m-400m building is great, but the location really takes away from what i love about chicago, because it is so far outside at the sea. i think the central downtown skyline looks so amazing and i really like this area so much more suited for a possible megatall. Another thing i did not like about chicago spire was its design. This tower however seems to become a Sears taller brother style building which i approve of a lot more. Chicago has a very great balanced boxy skyline. The tallest tower also should be a big box in my opinion or at least suit the whole chicago style.
This I agree with. The spire I think had a beautiful design. But the design in the skyline wasn't working for me. As well as the height and the location. It just stuck out like a cold sore. A elegant yet boxy high-rise would fit perfectly in the spires current spot.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 12:36 AM   #908
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The 2k footer sort of looks like 7 south Dearborn. I'm loving it!
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Old April 11th, 2013, 04:29 AM   #909
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Finally, some news. Although I'm sure many of us were expecting more, this is a good start.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 04:35 AM   #910
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This is incredible. 5.2 million square foot is beyond my comprehension. This will be so big it's not even funny.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:00 AM   #911
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people may hate me for it, but i do hope the spire site will not get a building as tall as the spire was. a good 200m-400m building is great, but the location really takes away from what i love about chicago, because it is so far outside at the sea. i think the central downtown skyline looks so amazing and i really like this area so much more suited for a possible megatall. Another thing i did not like about chicago spire was its design. This tower however seems to become a Sears taller brother style building which i approve of a lot more. Chicago has a very great balanced boxy skyline. The tallest tower also should be a big box in my opinion or at least suit the whole chicago style.
Whatever gets built at the Spire site will be huge. The ask is over $90 million which forces anyone who develops the site to pack it out with as many sale or rental units as the market will allow. That might not result in a supertall but given the foundation work already there, at least one very tall skyscraper seems inevitable.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 06:29 AM   #912
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Made this render earlier. A little sloppy but.. Hope you like. Lol
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Old April 11th, 2013, 06:49 AM   #913
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I'm confused myself on what lot that 2,000 footer is even slated for. It looks like its on the southern end of the new retail base but I'm not sure.

At one point they also had plans to build just southeast across the river and Congress Expressway as well on what is now an empty lot with which they were going to connect by way of a skybridge. Not sure if they ended up selling that parcel or if they have long term ideas of what they would like it to be. A bit strange that they make grandiose plans for the other sites and don't indicate any ideas about what they envision for that lot.
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I'm confused myself on what lot that 2,000 footer is even slated for. It looks like its on the southern end of the new retail base but I'm not sure.

At one point they also had plans to build just southeast across the river and Congress Expressway as well on what is now an empty lot with which they were going to connect by way of a skybridge. Not sure if they ended up selling that parcel or if they have long term ideas of what they would like it to be. A bit strange that they make grandiose plans for the other sites and don't indicate any ideas about what they envision for that lot.
That lot and skybridge were contentious. I think the developers aim to get approvals for the non-controversial stuff first then litigate the rest later.
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This is a good place for a supertall. If another supertall gets built near the very core of downtown by the river, the skyline will look balanced. This is probably the best way to ease into a magnificent transition of the Chicago skyline.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #916
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Made this render earlier. A little sloppy but.. Hope you like. Lol
Fits good in the skyline
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Old April 11th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #917
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Hopefully this development will be more succesful, despite the massive increase in volume.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #918
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As I've said when the very first plans and renderings were released, the city would never allow that bridge thingy across the river and hiding the old post office was a huge mistake. The original plan was a joke and nothing to be taken seriously.

This new plan is a little bit better and more realistic but it too still need some work. I like the base of this new proposal because it's not too big and doesn't hide the old post office completely. However, it's still lacking riverfront access for boats. It's also lacking great outdoor space.

I think this project would be perfect if they just fixed up the old post office and use it for some moderately expensive apartment and hotel units. Add a casino (if Quinn ever allows us one), as I think a casino is this project's only chance of being successful, at least in the short term. Then provide a couple thousand parking spaces in the lower levels. Build the 1000 ft eastern tower with office, high end hotel and condo units. The retail base looks fine, just push it back a little to provide more green space and access for boats. Finally, scrap the supertall on top of the retail component and just build the one other supertall behind the main post office, consisting of more office and high end condo and hotel units. Oh, and the roof of the old post office should definitely be decked out and become more than just another green roof.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #919
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Is the Sears Tower just behind this?

Because the angle of the render makes the tallest tower look roughly the same height as the Sears Tower, but then I understand that the first tower is 300m...

I don't know it just looks confusing
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Is the Sears Tower just behind this?

Because the angle of the render makes the tallest tower look roughly the same height as the Sears Tower, but then I understand that the first tower is 300m...

I don't know it just looks confusing
Yeah, it's a "work in progress" :S
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