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Old March 3rd, 2014, 07:17 AM   #901
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The Chinese sure don't drag their feet construction wise.

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Old March 3rd, 2014, 08:15 AM   #902
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Yep this is the first time I see that red machines directly taking part in pile construction. So I think from now on any project with red machines on site should be moved to u/c section
Not always.. Often they drill piles for reinforcing walls for basement levels, then dig and this is what we call preparation (at least for Chinese projects, I've seen some projects in other countries were moved to U/C at this stage..) and then drill the foundation piles
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 09:12 AM   #903
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Yeah I know. They also often drill for temporary steel beams supporting temporary platforms (pingan, wuhan greenland etc). But if we can see large number of these machines directly at the tower's location I think we can safely assume the tower's foundation is u/c.

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at least for Chinese projects, I've seen some projects in other countries were moved to U/C at this stage..
No surprise when Proposed threads are made for empty plots (sometimes even without concept design) for western countries And they still say half of chinese threads should be closed...
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 06:03 PM   #904
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Am I the only person who thinks we should redefine U/C for when they start laying rebar for the foundation. This would clear up any confusion.
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 06:10 PM   #905
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Piles are essential and permanent parts of supertall buildings.
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Old March 3rd, 2014, 06:13 PM   #906
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The problem is steel is not always for piles. There are often slurry walls build , that are not part of the main structure. And they too are build from large steel cages. It's often hard to tell if steel is for piles or for slurry walls that's why we always look for pile drilling rigs.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 08:10 AM   #907
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Old March 4th, 2014, 10:35 AM   #908
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Yeah I know. They also often drill for temporary steel beams supporting temporary platforms (pingan, wuhan greenland etc). But if we can see large number of these machines directly at the tower's location I think we can safely assume the tower's foundation is u/c.



No surprise when Proposed threads are made for empty plots (sometimes even without concept design) for western countries And they still say half of chinese threads should be closed...
Actually the people arguing that half the Chinese threads should be closed are just trying to come across as being reasonable. In reality they would prefer to close all of them.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #909
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The Chinese sure don't drag their feet construction wise.
It depends. When foundation work is concerned they often err on the side of caution and let things crystallise for far longer than needed to make sure it is set.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 01:29 PM   #910
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I think that the building foundation of this project is deeper than Shanghai Tower/Wuhan Greenland Center.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #911
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It depends. When foundation work is concerned they often err on the side of caution and let things crystallise for far longer than needed to make sure it is set.
With foundations one can't be too careful.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 02:00 PM   #912
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I think that the building foundation of this project is deeper than Shanghai Tower/Wuhan Greenland Center.
Depends on how the underground is. With rock close to the surface you don't need a deep foundation for example.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 03:33 PM   #913
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I think that the building foundation of this project is deeper than Shanghai Tower/Wuhan Greenland Center.
As is known,the foundation of zhongnan center is about 100m deep,what’s that of ST or Wuhan greenland center?
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Old March 6th, 2014, 03:40 PM   #914
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Another two numbers concerned:the steel cage is 1.8m in diameter(the pile will be 2m in diameter )
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Old March 6th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #915
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It depends. When foundation work is concerned they often err on the side of caution and let things crystallise for far longer than needed to make sure it is set.
Or using bizarre piling methods aka Ping'an.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 06:51 AM   #916
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It's absolutely a ridiculous project, they could better invest the money in the downtown area, which is so shabby and looks like its 1973 . But I guess it's just prestige.
this IS the new downtown area... thats y we called this whole area "suzhou center"...
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Old March 7th, 2014, 06:52 AM   #917
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Wow, every city in China wants their own supertall.

suzhou has another one 450meter tall U/C
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Old March 7th, 2014, 07:01 AM   #918
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