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Old September 13th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #281
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I surely would not. A monstrous building of the 1950s decorated in the taste of Western bourgeoisie of the 1880s would be tasteless anywhere.
Actually Lev Rudnev the architect of Pkin is said to take inspiration from "traditional" Polish architecture so it's rather taste of polish magnates and nobility from the XVII century
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http://fotoforum.gazeta.pl/photo/8/j...As9YRQRxQB.jpg

XIX century architecture on the other hand wasn't valued both by party officials for the reasons you already mentioned (too burgeoise) and architects whom largely seen it as worthless so while the Old Town was reconstructed many XIX century buildings were demolished.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #282
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very interesting thread, overall it looks somewhat balanced. although photographers usually favour what interests them so it does appear that you have an interest in the grittier not so attractive side of cities probably in an attempt to give a balanced depiction. this understandably would provoke the sensitivities of people in those areas who are struggling to rebuild a region of Europe neglected and damaged by soviet tyranny, mismanagement and misguided urban planning ideas. Former East Berlin and even West Berlin suffer from the blight caused by poorly conceived and sited modern buildings (aka commie blocks), but also has some masterpieces and some of those areas with sidewalk cafes look very enticing. Socialist realism was at least contextual, ususally maintaining street walls and creating a sense of place whereas the international style of commie blocks resulted in such drab placelessness.

I have never been to Romania and will definitely go as I have heard good things. I can't agree entirely on your appraisals of Warsaw and Krakow...in any case, you may want to peruse my threads to understand these cities better....but you are right for many reasons Warsaw despite it still somewhat scarred appearance is absolutely fascinating, attracting as many tourists as Barcelona. THe Palace of Culture in Warsaw was designed in the stalinist baroque style with applied art borrowing motifs from Polish peasant culture and glorifying the so-called working class. In itself it is a stunning building, a self-contained city of cultural amenities, but it did not fit Warsaw after the war. Now it is one many skyscrapers in this area that's becoming the new downtown of Warsaw.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 02:12 PM   #283
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Where is Alexandra (Stan) then???????
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Old September 14th, 2011, 04:39 PM   #284
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@rychlik.
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I am not racist.
A racist is a person who thinks that "races" and "nations" are not social constructions but facts of nature.

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Besides, since you are of Ukrainian stock, I am assuming you are white. Well I am white as well, so how can you be racist against your own race?
As "races" and "nations" are social constructions and nothing real, you donīt belong to any "race" or "nation" before you decide that you WANT to belong to one. Well, I never felt the desire to take part in this kind of mass hysteria, so I donīt belong to any "race" or "nation" at all.

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Anyways, I hope you realize that you do focus more on the negatives of the places you are visiting.
No, I donīt realize this. In fact, the opposite is true: In most contemporary larger cities of Europe, the historic old town doesnīt cover more than perhaps 5% of the cityīs area. So if you really want to show a representative portrait of a modern European city, the ordinary, not so touristy residential, industrial and office ares would have to be the subject of 95% of your photos. In my photos, the historic sites and touristy places are still much, much, much OVERrepresented. In my home town of Vienna, for example, less than 2% of the population is living in the historic center. A representative portrait of Vienna would have to consist of 98% of places outside the historic center. In fact, in most larger European cities, the historic center is more or less a small architectural museum that doesnīt have much to do with everyday life of 95% of its population.

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Actually Lev Rudnev the architect of Pkin is said to take inspiration from "traditional" Polish architecture
And thatīs exactly what western bourgeoisie did in the late 19th century: Recycling historic styles in an eclectic way. Donīt you think itīs ridiculous that a state which called itself "socialist" tried to imitate the style of 17th century exploiters in a way 19th century bourgeoisie would have done in a smaller scale?
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Day 29-30: Alba Iulia, Romania

Alba Iulia is situated in western Transilvania and has a population of 68,000. I visited the city because of its breathtaking beautiful cathedral in late romanesque/early gothic style, probably one of the most harmonius medieval buildings I know. The massive baroque 18th century fortifications are another important historic monument of Alba Iulia.
In the modern parts of the city, I was fascinated by the many strange residential towers which definitely belong to the most interesting examples of socialist residential buildings I know.

First some pictures I took from the train between Cluj Napoca and Alba Iulia:











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Early 18th century fortifications:

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Interesting neo-byzantine church, 1920s:











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