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Old October 10th, 2007, 06:02 PM   #301
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Technically HK and Macau carriers don't carry Chinese (PRC) registration, which is why I excluded them.
HK and Macau are part of "PRC" so the registrations are PRC registrations. You should say they are not registrations of "the Mainland of China".
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:21 AM   #302
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East star's color and design is so disgusting. The designer needs to be hanged man. Juneyao is nice, love the logo.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:26 AM   #303
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why??


Why what?


Why did I include that picture?
Why is Hong Kong Airline livery like that
Why is it like the new Hainam livery
Why is there such airline
Why as in WHY ON HEAVENS SAKES did they change the livery?


So which why?
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:29 AM   #304
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Not sure which airport they're from, but I doubt they were all taken from Taiwan. Even the special charters cover only very limited set of airlines, and I doubt the likes of Hainan Airlines would have received any quota at all.

For the ones that I have taken, they were from HK.

Actually the pictures in thread number 1 are all taken in Taiwan. You can see China Airlines hangar there, the Chiang Kai Shek Airport, and Transasia Airways in those pics.
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:39 AM   #305
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Old October 11th, 2007, 04:46 AM   #306
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Old October 11th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #307
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Old October 11th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #308
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Old October 15th, 2007, 07:39 AM   #309
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Old October 15th, 2007, 07:58 AM   #310
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how many airports and domestic airlines are there in China
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Old October 16th, 2007, 08:13 PM   #311
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New, although there is an even newer one.
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Old October 17th, 2007, 01:24 AM   #312
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does anyone have a list of the biggest airlines in China in terms of passenger handling and fleet size?
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Old October 17th, 2007, 07:41 PM   #313
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Air China aims to become "super-carrier"

BEIJING, Oct 15 (Reuters) - China's airline industry needs to spawn one or two "super-carriers" capable of competing with international airlines, the chairman of Air China Ltd said, indicating that the firm is leaving its options open in its bid to buy into rival China Eastern.

Li Jiaxiang also said Air China's planned fleet expansion ahead of the Olympics would be affected by Boeing's delay in delivering its 787 Dreamliner. He said he hoped the U.S. plane maker could help to mitigate the impact.

" Air China is still too small. For instance, we only have 215 airplanes -- just one-fifth of our partner United," Li said in an interview.

Acquisitions of smaller domestic airlines would be one option for expanding, Li told Reuters over the weekend.

Addressing the airline's recently scuppered plan to buy into China Eastern, Li did not rule out another approach after an agreed standstill period ended.

Air China's parent, China National Aviation Holding Co, and Cathay Pacific Airways abandoned their plan last month.

Air China, which has a cross-shareholding with Cathay, said at the time that it would not go ahead with a deal for at least three months.

Asked whether the carrier would consider proceeding after that, he said: "Let's see the situation after three months."

Li also did not rule out using its position as a major holder of China Eastern's Hong Kong-listed shares to vote against the agreed purchase of a $918 million stake in China Eastern by Singapore Airlines and Temasek Holdings

Analysts have said that Air China, whose parent owns a bit more than 11 percent of China Eastern's H-shares, could seek to block the deal, which requires the support of two-thirds of minority shareholders.

"We're one of the shareholders, and normally shareholders receive their due respect," Li said.

FLYING TO PYONGYANG

Li elaborated on an argument he made in his recent book, "Route to Fly", saying that too many foreign stakes in China's airline sector would complicate consolidation of domestic carriers, which he views as essential to its competitiveness.

"To realise this 'super-carrier', Air China can do it; other airlines can also do it. Other airlines can also buy Air China -- we welcome anyone to buy Air China shares," he said.

"As long as China produces a 'super-carrier', I'll be happy."

On Boeing Co's announcement last week that it would have to push back first deliveries of its 787 Dreamliner by at least six months, Li said that would affect its plans to use the Dreamliner for the Summer Olympics next August.

Air China has 15 787s on order, which it was hoping to use to launch an aggressive international route expansion ahead of the 2008 Games, for which it is the official carrier.

Li said he had written a letter to Boeing executives, expressing his dissatisfaction over the delay.

"On the one hand, I expressed my understanding. On the other hand, Boeing should also help us think of other ways to serve the Olympics, for instance, if we lack airplanes, to deliver other planes to us early or lease planes to us," he said.

Li, who said Air China was still taking a wait-and-see approach to Airbus's A380, disclosed that Air China would start flights to Pyongyang, North Korea, next month.

Li acknowledged that Air China has a long way to go in improving its service and the English skills of its staff as it prepares to join the Star Alliance later this year.

He vowed to tackle Air China's reputation for keeping passengers in the dark when flights are delayed. "There are two reasons for that -- insufficient communication with our customers and insufficient communication within our company," he said, a model airplane painted with the Olympic mascots resting on the end table next to him.

"We need to improve on both of them."
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Old October 18th, 2007, 06:12 AM   #314
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China to maintain 3 major airlines - report
17 October 2007

BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - China believes the current setup of three major airlines is "fine" given the current state of the industry, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing the aviation regulator.

"We believe it would be fine to maintain three major carriers based on the situation of the airline industry," said Yang Yuanyuan, minister of the General Administration of Civil Aviation of China, on the sidelines of the 17th Communist Party Congress.

The remarks come amid speculation of M&A activity among the big three - Air China, China Southern Airlines and China Eastern Airlines. The three major airline groups were formed from a restructuring of state-owned carriers in 2002.

In September China National Aviation Holding Co, which controls Air China, cancelled a joint bid with Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd to take a stake in China Eastern Airlines.
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Old October 18th, 2007, 12:39 PM   #315
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China may open military airports to budget airlines

BEIJING, Oct 17 (Reuters) - China's civil aviation regulator has asked the military to let low-cost airlines use secondary airports across the country, even as it is holding back foreign budget carriers that hope to fly to China.

In an effort to boost economic growth, the government will also spend one billion yuan ($133.1 million) a year to subsidise regional airports and airlines flying to smaller cities, top regulator Yang Yuanyuan told Reuters in an interview on Wednesday.

Despite soaring demand, the development of low-cost airlines in China has been hampered by a lack of the secondary airports, ticket price controls and high import taxes for aircraft and parts. In the United States and Europe, by contrast, budget carriers make heavy use of their networks of secondary airports.

"At the moment, it's one city one airport, and that's the main airport, which are big and have very full schedules. But we are devoted to developing low-cost airlines," Yang said on the sidelines of a Communist Party Congress.

"Beijing has a few military airports surrounding it. We are having talks with the military, so perhaps we can open some up and they can be joint civil-military airports. Guangzhou also has some military airports nearby. We're also talking about opening up some of those," he added.

"The terminal facilities and service will be simpler. Although if airlines fly there, transport (to downtown) will not be as good as at large airports. So prices will be lower. I think low-cost airlines have a great future in China," said Yang, 41.

"I really appreciate what the boss of Malaysia's AirAsia has as his slogan: 'Now everyone can fly'. This is great. This is my dream," added Yang, who is also a pilot.

China has a handful of companies that are trying to make money with a budget business model, to varying degrees of success. But none of them approaches the scale of Ireland's Ryanair or U.S.- based Southwest Airlines Last year the regulator fined China's low-cost Spring Airlines for selling tickets for 13 U.S. cents in a promotion, saying they broke national pricing rules.

Still, the government is being cautious in response to fears that China's main state-run carriers, such as Air China Ltd and China Eastern, would lose out should foreign budget airlines open too many routes to China.

Malaysia's AirAsia already flies to a few cities in southern China, but its long-haul offshoot AirAsia X has identified cities in eastern and northern China to serve once it gets off the ground.

"If I encourage this, our airlines will curse me. But we're willing to open the door slightly for them, to see how it goes," said Yang. "If we open the door too wide, there'll be too much impact on our airlines, and that's not good."

"If they are willing to fly to secondary cities, that's fine. It's a good thing," he added.

The government has invested billions of dollars upgrading old airports and building new ones, but many lose money and either have few flights or none at all as they are in remote, economically backward areas.

To help alleviate this situation, regional airports will get 600 million yuan annually to improve their finances, and airlines 300 million to fly to these cities, Yang said.

"They give as much of an economic boost as do highways," he added, referring to smaller airports.

Yang said he was not too worried about them losing money, even as he added it was important to build airports rationally and not purely as "image projects".

"I think airports are public facilities. They are not there to make money," he said. "Of course I want more airports and not fewer. But we can't blindly build them. It's a waste." ($1=7.514 Yuan)
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Old October 18th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #316
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Very nice pictures.

The Hong Kong Express livery is identical to British airline, XL Airways.
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East star's color and design is so disgusting. The designer needs to be hanged man. Juneyao is nice, love the logo.
It looks like a school project

on the other hand I like the looks of Hainan, Shanghai and Xiamen airlines, I also like China Eastern and Southern which look a bit more "retro" but still nice
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how many airports and domestic airlines are there in China
too many... I'll count them for you when I have time. lots of time.
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