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Old April 1st, 2011, 09:34 PM   #1001
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What is the business seat like - staggered like Emirates, diagonal like Singapore, or something new again?
Is it more cramped (ie. less space per seat) or they're just swapping more spacious J and F seats for Y?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 10:15 PM   #1002
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Nanjing-Wuhan high-speed rail out-competes airlines, routes cancelled
16:35, March 31, 2011

All flights between Nanjing and Wuhan were canceled starting from March 27 because of strong competition from high-speed rail. This is the first time that high-speed rail has forced airlines to cancel flights on the same route.

The Hefei-Wuhan High-speed Passenger Railway opened in 2009. With a speed of 250 kilometers per hour, it cuts the journey time between the two cities to three hours. Three trains run on this route every day, and a ticket for a second-class seat only costs 180 yuan, so its occupancy rate is often above 90 percent.
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The two airlines said that after the Nanjing South Railway Station for the Beijing-Shanghai High-speed Railway is put into operation in the third quarter of this year, there will be more high-speed trains running between Wuhan and Nanjing, and the number of air passengers will continue to drop. Therefore, it is the right time for them to quit the market.

Actually, the situation of road passenger transportation is also not good. A long-distance bus without any passengers departed from the Jinjiadun Terminal at 7 p.m. on March 30. The driver said the bus to Nanjing had not received any passengers for several days.

The Hubei Highway Transport Corporation said that collinear flights and long-distance buses have no competitive advantages. They have stopped their long-distance bus from Wuhan to Shanghai and only operated on the eastern line. Hubei Highway Transport Corporation's volume of passenger traffic decreased more than 200,000 passengers per year resulting in a loss of more than 30 million yuan per year.

Officials from the Wuhan Transportation Commission said that the competition between railway, highway and aviation has turned white-hot and passengers have become the prime beneficiary of the competition. Passengers can now choose based on their specific travel circumstances.

For example, Wuhan-to-Guangzhou travelers can choose high-speed rail if they value speed and time. Passengers can choose aviation if they value speed or they can also choose regular trains and long-distance bus if they want to save money and do not care about the time.

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Do any high speed trains Wuhan-Nanjing continue to Hongqiao airport on Nanjing-Shanghai high speed railway rather than on the low speed railway?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 10:26 PM   #1003
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 04:22 AM   #1004
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^ Yes. Via Nanjing-Shanghai ICL, the fastest D-train from Wuhan to Shanghai takes 4 hours 20 minutes, compared to previous 5 hours 3 minutes.

I didn't quote the reports about how HSR has been affecting the airlines from Wuhan to Shanghai. But considering most flights (11 out of the total 13 daily flights between Wuhan to Shanghai) fly from Shanghai Pudong to Wuhan Tianhe, flying is at least 50% more expensive(and that's if you can get the best deal from the airline companies) and can be slower than the fast D-trains if you take the trip time to airports and average flight delay into account.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 08:00 AM   #1005
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^ Yes. Via Nanjing-Shanghai ICL, the fastest D-train from Wuhan to Shanghai takes 4 hours 20 minutes, compared to previous 5 hours 3 minutes.
As of 20th of June, what shall be faster: Wuhan-Shanghai or Beijing-Shanghai?
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I didn't quote the reports about how HSR has been affecting the airlines from Wuhan to Shanghai. But considering most flights (11 out of the total 13 daily flights between Wuhan to Shanghai) fly from Shanghai Pudong to Wuhan Tianhe, flying is at least 50% more expensive(and that's if you can get the best deal from the airline companies) and can be slower than the fast D-trains if you take the trip time to airports and average flight delay into account.
What is the use of Pudong airport, at all?

Transrapid ends at remote Longyang Road station. There is no rail at Pudong except Shanghai Metro line 2 which takes much more time for 62 km Pudong-Hongqiao than is needed Hongqiao-Nanjing.

Chinese might have built high speed railway through Shanghai so that high speed trains from Nanjing, Hangzhou, Wuhan, Beijing etc. might drop passengers off at central city station and then proceed with remaining passengers to Pudong airport terminal (both passengers wanting to take long distance planes from Pudong airport as well as passengers whose destination is in suburbs around Pudong airport). But nothing of this kind has been done.

Passengers arriving at Hongqiao airport may from the terminal building get on direct and fast trains to Nanjing, Hangzhou, Wuhan, soon Beijing, Ningbo, Fuzhou, and numerous intermediate stops on each of these lines. Should long distance planes therefore fly to Hongqiao airport and ignore the impractical and remote Pudong?
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Old April 3rd, 2011, 04:57 PM   #1006
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Old April 7th, 2011, 06:59 AM   #1008
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Airbus: Expects More Demand For Very Large Planes From China
7 April 2011

SHANGHAI (Dow Jones)--Airbus expects to see more demand for the A380 superjumbo aircraft from China in the coming years, helped by a strong growth in the coutnry's air traffic, Airbus China President Laurence Barron said Thursday.

So far China Southern Airlines Co. (ZNH) is the only Chinese carrier to have ordered the A380, with five aircraft on order. Other Chinese carriers have been slow to warm to the superjumbo aircraft, said Barron.

"We're pretty confident in the coming years we'll sell more A380s in China," Barron told reporters at an industrial event in Shanghai.

"We certainly don't have to wait ten years" for demand for A380s to pick up in China, he added.

China Southern Air will receive its first A380 in the third quarter, said Barron.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 07:04 AM   #1009
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China Southern Airlines reports huge net profit growth for 2010
Xinhua News Agency
6 April 2011

BEIJING -- China Southern Airlines Company Limited (China Southern) posted an upsurge in profits in 2010 from the low base in the previous year due to rebounding demand.

In its annual business report filed with the Shanghai Stock Exchange on March 29, China Southern said its net profit increased 1,423.62% to 5.8 billion yuan (885 million U.S. dollars) last year compared with 381 million yuan in 2009.

China Southern, the nation's largest carrier by passenger transport capacity, said its earnings per share jumped to 0.70 yuan last year, compared with 0.05 yuan for 2009. The company reported a loss of 0.74 yuan per share in 2008.

The Guangzhou-based company attributed its profit upsurge in 2010 to rapid domestic economy expansion, consumption upgrade and China's successful hosting of Shanghai Expo and the Asian Games.

Share price of China Southern rose 0.36% to open at 8.3 yuan in Shanghai on March 29. (XBW)
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Old April 8th, 2011, 05:34 AM   #1010
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Chinese carriers hike fuel surcharges for domestic routes - CCTV

BEIJING, April 8 (Reuters) - Air China and other Chinese carriers have raised their fuel surcharges for domestic routes for the second time this year to help offset cost pressure amid surging oil prices, state media said on Friday.

Carriers including China Eastern Airlines raised the fuel surcharge to 110 yuan ($16.81) from 90 yuan for domestic flights of more than 800 kilometers (500 miles), while rates for shorter distance have been marked up to 60 yuan from 50 yuan, CCTV said.

The most recent fuel surcharge hike for domestic routes happened in February.

Fuel typically accounts for 40 percent of Chinese airlines' operating costs. Many industry executives, including Li Jun, deputy general manager of China Eastern, had warned of a negative impact on carriers if oil prices continued their uptrend. ($1 = 6.542 yuan)
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Old April 9th, 2011, 11:32 AM   #1012
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ZHUHAI - China's independently-developed regional ARJ21-700 jet has begun high-intensity test flights in order to get its airworthiness certificates, according to its producer, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC).

Tian Min, chief accountant of the COMAC, said on November 15 at the China International Aviation and Aerospace Forum in Zhuhai that the China-made jet was preparing for a series of difficult and high-risk trials, including tests of the engine and the avionics system.

Four aircraft were undergoing test flights while another two were being tested on the ground in order to earn airworthiness certificates from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) of the United States and the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC).

Since the first trial flights in November 2008, ARJ21-700 jets have completed more than 900 hours of tests in more than 400 trial flights, including high-temperature and high-humidity tests, Tian said.

Tian said the COMAC planned to deliver the first ARJ21-700 plane to buyers in 2011. The company had received 240 orders from home and abroad.
I thought this plane hit a major snag pushing them back to the drawing board. Have they been able to fix the wing intensity load problem?
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Old April 12th, 2011, 03:40 AM   #1013
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Chinese newcomer to fly daily from Auckland
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5:30 AM Tuesday Apr 12, 2011


New arrival China Southern Airlines is boosting its Auckland service and will also link Kiwis to London.

The airline announced at an event last night that in three months time it will start flying daily from Auckland to Guangzhou, up from three times a week at present.

It also confirmed plans to operate connecting flights on to London.

Earlier, chief executive Tan Wan'geng said the airline had been re-engineering itself as an international network.

"With China's economic developments being so fast we would like to take this opportunity to launch more new international routes and so our next goal in the future is to be one of the best internationalised carriers in the world and launch more international routes," Wan'geng told the Herald through an interpreter.

China Southern Airlines' first flight from Guangzhou to Auckland touched down on Saturday.

The new route is expected to bring in 25,000 visitors in its first year, with an estimated $75 million of extra value to the economy.

According to Statistics New Zealand, Chinese visitor numbers grew 31.2 per cent in the year ended January to 127,837 people - New Zealand's fourth-biggest market.

Australasia was the airline's number one priority - number two was Europe. "China Southern serves the routes going to Paris and Amsterdam and we will be launching the London routes soon."

In the United States, China Southern served Los Angeles and would soon launch new routes to Vancouver.

"So you can tell that the internationalisation of China Southern in the past few years is quite rapid."

Investment in the aviation industry was huge with profit margins relatively low, Wan'geng said.

The International Air Transport Association had forecast a trend for more super-sized carriers.

"And, of course, it's our goal to be one of those super-sized, mega airlines in the world," he said. "In this case, then the profit margin on the profitability of the airline can be improved."

Chairman Si Xianmin said the new route between Auckland and Guangzhou acted as an air bridge between the two nations.

"The deeper meaning behind the launch is that we can help the people of the two countries to communicate more and enhance the exchanges in the areas of trade, economy, culture, tourism.

"In the past few years, we have been investing capacity on the routes going to New Zealand and Australia so especially after the launch of the New Zealand route we need to work on our next steps, which will be our new route from Guangzhou to London."

The airline understood that New Zealand and Australia had special connections with Britain, he said.

"So our next target will be to connect London to New Zealand and Australia via Guangzhou."

China Southern was expected to carry more than 80 million passengers this year and wanted to be a Skytrax five-star airline within two years.

The majority of capital needed for development came from banks and the airline, which was listed in Shanghai, Hong Kong and New York, had undertaken two public offerings during the past three years which had raised 13 billion RMB ($2.54 billion).

Air New Zealand has welcomed China Southern into the market and said with that airline's presence in China the whole New Zealand brand would grow.

First NZ Capital head of research Rob Bode said China Southern flying to London would provide more choice and competition for travellers.

"I guess it's only at the margin, they're [Air New Zealand] used to competition with plenty of airlines."
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China Southern Airlines plans London service

Wednesday, April 06, 2011

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China Southern Airlines is seeking permission to launch a service between London and its Guangzhou hub in the next 18 months.

It believes its connecting services to Australia will be a big driver for UK traffic.

“We know that the kangaroo route to the UK via a hub and to Australia is most profitable,” said branding manager Rocky Zheng.

“We have already become the biggest carrier from China to Australia in the last few years. We’ve carried on increasing the frequency and this allows us to capture the international passengers.

“Our strategy is to become international network orientated.”

The airline, the largest in China, flies double-daily to Sydney, daily to Melbourne and three times a week to Brisbane. It has also just added a thrice-weekly service to Auckland.

Zheng said China Southern has ambitions to serve Perth, Adelaide and Cairns and increase its Australia flights from 24 to 58 in the next five years.

If the airline, which already has a UK office and is a member of SkyTeam, gains permission to serve London, it anticipates starting with three flights a week with a four-class service.

Its Paris and Amsterdam routes increased to a daily service this year.

The airline has two A380s on order and Zheng said if the London route was secured it might be one on which the superjumbo would be deployed.
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Hmm .. securing a Heathrow slot would be quite difficult. Would make sense to send an A380 there to maximize capacity.
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Hmm .. securing a Heathrow slot would be quite difficult. Would make sense to send an A380 there to maximize capacity.
Fellow SkyTeam members AirFrance and KLM are sitting on some slots, and I've noticed that SkyTeam has been very willing to share slots amongst their members at Heathrow. So here's hoping that they get a good slot.
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Fellow SkyTeam members AirFrance and KLM are sitting on some slots, and I've noticed that SkyTeam has been very willing to share slots amongst their members at Heathrow. So here's hoping that they get a good slot.
What are the timings though? A bad time is as good as no slot.
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Fellow SkyTeam members AirFrance and KLM are sitting on some slots, and I've noticed that SkyTeam has been very willing to share slots amongst their members at Heathrow. So here's hoping that they get a good slot.
I guess that's one reason why Virgin Atlantic would be so important for SkyTeam - their slots in Heathrow are so valuable.
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