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Old October 13th, 2011, 01:10 AM   #41
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Newport = BEAUTIFUL.

Those Atlanta homes are UGLY. Besides the real "castles" built with taste are in Buckhead. Good luck getting or taking pictures of those.
Surely you aren't talking about Rhodes Hall or the Wimbish Mansion...the turn-of-the-century ones on Peachtree Street?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodes_Hall

http://www.thewimbishhouse.com/

Here are some classic Buckhead Mansions:

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Old October 13th, 2011, 01:58 AM   #42
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Some Hudson River Valley Castles...

Whitby Castle, Westchester County NY, 1852
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Castle Rock, Garrison NY, 1881



Lyndhurst Castle, Tarrytown NY, 1838
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Bannerman's Castle, Pollepel Island NY, 1901
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Old October 13th, 2011, 04:55 AM   #43
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Surely you aren't talking about Rhodes Hall or the Wimbish Mansion...the turn-of-the-century ones on Peachtree Street?

Here are some classic Buckhead Mansions:

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Never was a fan of Rhodes Hall and the Wimbish Mansion is so small, though it does have a clean neo-gothic look. The picture above is in Ansley Park at 15th (basically Midtown). The other pictures are open to the public homes, one of which is noteworthy (Swan House) and the other one looks kind of tacky, neither of which truly represent Buckhead in any way. The tudor is a beauty, though, and definitely more completely represents Buckhead (it's at Cherokee and West Andrews in case you want to know where it is ...for sale I believe).
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #44
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Never was a fan of Rhodes Hall and the Wimbish Mansion is so small, though it does have a clean neo-gothic look. The picture above is in Ansley Park at 15th (basically Midtown). The other pictures are open to the public homes, one of which is noteworthy (Swan House) and the other one looks kind of tacky, neither of which truly represent Buckhead in any way. The tudor is a beauty, though, and definitely more completely represents Buckhead (it's at Cherokee and West Andrews in case you want to know where it is ...for sale I believe).
I just searched for some photos of Buckhead homes...the above was apparently incorrectly listed as such. Regardless of what you think is tacky, there are many Buckhead homes that are representative of the variety found there.

The thread topic is about castles...not mansions. Rhodes Hall and the Wimbish Mansion are much more castle-like than almost any classic Buckhead mansion. I was posting some examples that fit the thread. I apologize for not meeting your standards.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:22 PM   #45
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Swannanoa in Virginia

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Searles Castle, Great Barrington MA
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Bishop's Palace, Galveston TX
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Nice castles!

I also love all the cheesoid fake-looking castles that people build in practically every city:

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There are plenty of those all over the U.S.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 08:00 PM   #50
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A&E used to have a series called "America's Castles" in the late 90's. Watched that every time I could, as it was really well done. Even if many of their subjects were decidedly not castles it was fascinating stuff for architectural fans.

I do think there's a lot of grand estates/manors that truly do fit the bill, and a lot of mansions that are simply just big homes. Like to think we could discern between the two somehow.

- First off, we know the US has not fortified palaces as in Europe, since there was no royalty and no need for such fortifications. So take that out of the equation.

- I think there has to be something of an overall estate factor - An arrangement of grounds that surrounds the structure and is part of the full experience. There are plenty of grand mansions within urban settings but none that I know of that have the scale needed to be considered a "castle." Atlanta's Rhodes Hall is a good example here: Fine architectural specimen, but both too small and to packed in to be a caslte, IMO.

- There has to be a level of architectural extravengance. This may be just my way of leaving out some modern big house, but it seems to me there must be a strong degree of ornamentation and the incorporation of elements moreso for their artistic value than for any pure functional purpose. If the Biltmore had the same size but now turrets or high detailing and just plain walls... yawn!

- There has to be a notable collection of spaces based around crowds of people, as if to host events and guests. Again, simply being a big house doesn't make something special, there needs to be that factor of public accessibility in some fashion.

Am I building upon the idea here?
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A&E used to have a series called "America's Castles" in the late 90's. Watched that every time I could, as it was really well done. Even if many of their subjects were decidedly not castles it was fascinating stuff for architectural fans.

I do think there's a lot of grand estates/manors that truly do fit the bill, and a lot of mansions that are simply just big homes. Like to think we could discern between the two somehow.

- First off, we know the US has not fortified palaces as in Europe, since there was no royalty and no need for such fortifications. So take that out of the equation.

- I think there has to be something of an overall estate factor - An arrangement of grounds that surrounds the structure and is part of the full experience. There are plenty of grand mansions within urban settings but none that I know of that have the scale needed to be considered a "castle." Atlanta's Rhodes Hall is a good example here: Fine architectural specimen, but both too small and to packed in to be a caslte, IMO.

- There has to be a level of architectural extravengance. This may be just my way of leaving out some modern big house, but it seems to me there must be a strong degree of ornamentation and the incorporation of elements moreso for their artistic value than for any pure functional purpose. If the Biltmore had the same size but now turrets or high detailing and just plain walls... yawn!

- There has to be a notable collection of spaces based around crowds of people, as if to host events and guests. Again, simply being a big house doesn't make something special, there needs to be that factor of public accessibility in some fashion.

Am I building upon the idea here?
Well, there is the simple characteristic of a castle-like appearance, no matter the size or oppulence...i.e. Rhodes Hall. Those are the ones that I automatically think about, not the estates that bear no resemblence to a castle.

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Old October 22nd, 2011, 10:04 PM   #52
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wow, Why is Bannerman's castle just abandoned? It would make a great resort being so close to NYC!
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Iolani is a true royal palace!
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wow, Why is Bannerman's castle just abandoned? It would make a great resort being so close to NYC!
I believe it's a state park now, part of Hudson Highlands.
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Two that came to mind while reminiscing about my birth state...

Mohonk Mountain House (resort)


Belvedere Castle in Central Park (tiny, but architecturally comparable)

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The Smithsonian"castle".
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