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Old August 14th, 2011, 02:18 PM   #1
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Urban London, UK - August 2011

In this thread i'd like to showcase photos of London i've taken in the past weeks, i'm not so much of a tourist so many photos are urban shots of various districts i ended up walking through for various reasons, i'm also not a photo-guru so the quality isn't "top", but enjoy

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Old August 15th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #2
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Old August 15th, 2011, 04:37 PM   #3
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Cool, thanks for the photos!

The last building would be a great set for a zombie movie!
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Old August 15th, 2011, 04:44 PM   #4
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Wow. I thought that only the eastern block has that kind of housing estates.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 01:15 AM   #5
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Old August 16th, 2011, 01:54 AM   #6
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Those housing estates are just horrible. After the recent, highly destructive London riots, I read that London has the widest disparity between the haves and have-nots of Europe. Unfortunately, as some social commentators said, it really wasn't much of a surprise what happened, considering the social and economic gap that the city has reached, which according to them stretches back to Thatcher's time and have been exacerbated even further in recent times by conservative leaders such as Boris Johnson and now Cameron. Those riots in a supposed world-class city have really tarnished the city, just before the staging of the Olympics, but perhaps it was just inevitable as other social commentators stated.

Anyway, thanks for showing the 'real' London, the places where a vast majority of people live.
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Old August 16th, 2011, 02:53 AM   #7
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In this thread i'd like to showcase photos of London i've taken in the past weeks

You mean the past months or years?

Look at the Shard, it seems like this photo was taken long time ago. Anyway thanks for sharing.

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Very cool indeed, it actually reminds me of South Bronx NYC.

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Old August 16th, 2011, 03:15 AM   #8
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Old August 16th, 2011, 09:04 AM   #9
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I love those housing estate buildings
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Old August 16th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #10
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Those housing estates are just horrible. After the recent, highly destructive London riots, I read that London has the widest disparity between the haves and have-nots of Europe. Unfortunately, as some social commentators said, it really wasn't much of a surprise what happened, considering the social and economic gap that the city has reached, which according to them stretches back to Thatcher's time and have been exacerbated even further in recent times by conservative leaders such as Boris Johnson and now Cameron. Those riots in a supposed world-class city have really tarnished the city, just before the staging of the Olympics, but perhaps it was just inevitable as other social commentators stated.

Anyway, thanks for showing the 'real' London, the places where a vast majority of people live.
London is a wonderful city and the UK is a great country, but I agree with your analysis, even as a Brit in exile. Britain should have evolved to become more like the Scandinavian countries; a middle income nation with strong social services, money invested in education and infrastructure. Unfortunately, Maggie Thatcher and her Tory government ****ed that up and that's what started the decline. As a child of the 80's, I remember it well. They cut funding for education, healthcare, sold off public services and planted the seeds of social degradation in Britain by trying to implement American Reaganomics on what is deep down, a socialist country. It's sad to see my former home go downhill so badly, to tell you the truth. The fact that we looked "stateside" for social and economic models was our major mistake. The UK is a northern European country and (population wise) should be like a giant version of Norway, Sweden or Denmark (because culturally, the UK and Scandinavia are very much alike). IF it ever manages to evolve that way, I will be the first to move back to my home, otherwise, I will remain in exile.
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Old August 17th, 2011, 08:48 AM   #11
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Old August 17th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #12
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Nice, thanks for sharing your pics....
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Old August 17th, 2011, 01:59 PM   #13
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Great photos Tony. Well done for venturing off the beaten tourist track and showing what the city looks like for many Londoners.
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London is a wonderful city and the UK is a great country, but I agree with your analysis, even as a Brit in exile. Britain should have evolved to become more like the Scandinavian countries; a middle income nation with strong social services, money invested in education and infrastructure. Unfortunately, Maggie Thatcher and her Tory government ****ed that up and that's what started the decline. As a child of the 80's, I remember it well. They cut funding for education, healthcare, sold off public services and planted the seeds of social degradation in Britain by trying to implement American Reaganomics on what is deep down, a socialist country. It's sad to see my former home go downhill so badly, to tell you the truth. The fact that we looked "stateside" for social and economic models was our major mistake. The UK is a northern European country and (population wise) should be like a giant version of Norway, Sweden or Denmark (because culturally, the UK and Scandinavia are very much alike). IF it ever manages to evolve that way, I will be the first to move back to my home, otherwise, I will remain in exile.
I also agree with your analysis here, except that Britain is not a Northern European nation similar to Scandinavian countries. Britain is a western European nation culturally and in mentality. The Scandi psyche differs greatly from the British, even before Thatcherite policies.

On another note, it was unbelievable to see accused rioters receiving prison sentences for four years etc. It's like the powerful establishment coming down real hard on the marginalised and down trodden, like we'll show you whose boss, and really this just creates more deep-seated resentment and anti-social behaviour. Not the answer, in Scandi countries they'd never do that, another example of the vastly different mentality between Britain and Scandinavia. Britain can expect more social turmoil in the not too distant future, I'd hate to say.
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I also agree with your analysis here, except that Britain is not a Northern European nation similar to Scandinavian countries. Britain is a western European nation culturally and in mentality. The Scandi psyche differs greatly from the British, even before Thatcherite policies.

On another note, it was unbelievable to see accused rioters receiving prison sentences for four years etc. It's like the powerful establishment coming down real hard on the marginalised and down trodden, like we'll show you whose boss, and really this just creates more deep-seated resentment and anti-social behaviour. Not the answer, in Scandi countries they'd never do that, another example of the vastly different mentality between Britain and Scandinavia. Britain can expect more social turmoil in the not too distant future, I'd hate to say.
Ok, I agree. But as an admirer of Scandinavian culture, I would have liked to have seen my home country evolve that way. I fully agree with you that those who perpetrated the riots are as much "victims" of those whose property they destroyed, sorry to say (and I'm sure my political and social beliefs will offend many). We all joke about "chavs", but these people are just a product of a failed society, marginalised and lost. It's easy to make them out to be just evil, but it's not so easy to try to understand and show empathy. Of course, I do not condone their actions, but I understand why.

In Scandinavian countries, they wouldn't do that because there is no need. It's not a difference in culture - it's just a difference in society. They don't have such a disparity between rich and poor. Norway, Sweden and Denmark did not try to follow the US model of Reaganomics. As a result, they are more stable and people are less likely to riot out of sheer desperation.

It is sad; what the UK has become. I will never return, unless that country can become less American and more socially democratic and less Euro-skeptic (another thing that pisses me off about Britain, the anti-EU sentiment).
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good job for showing the other side of London.
just curious which part of the metro are those social housings located.
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good job for showing the other side of London.
just curious which part of the metro are those social housings located.
They're all over the place, i guess mostly south and east london are seen in these photos (Elephant & Castle, Hackney, Tower Hamlets,...)
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Those are poorest areas in the country, no?
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thanks for showing the flipside of London.
they're not bad at all.
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Poorest areas are somewhere in Scotland.
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