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Old November 22nd, 2011, 02:19 PM   #61
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See this another propoganda and protest which is against tambaram terminal...

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BJP Opposed Tambaram to be the 3rd Terminal for Chennai

சாதாரணமாகவே கூட்ட நெரிசலாலும், போக்குவரத்து நெரிசலாலும் திணறும்போது, அதிகப்படியான பயணிகளால் தாம்பரம் பகுதி மேலும் கடும் நெருக்கடியைச் சந்திக்கும். இதற்கு மாற்று வழியாக, 72 ஏக்கர் பரப்பளவுள்ள ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தை மூன்றாவது முனையமாக மாற்ற வேண்டும்.சென்ட்ரல் ரயில் நிலையத்தில் இருந்து 3.5 கி.மீ., நீளமும், சென்னையின் அனைத்து பகுதிகளில் இருந்தும், வந்து போவதற்கு சாலை வசதிகளும் உள்ள இடம் ராயபுரம். சென்ட்ரல் ரயில் நிலையம், 12 நடைமேடைகளுடன் 950 மீட்டர் நீளமுள்ளது.

ஒன்பது நடைமேடைகள் கொண்ட எழும்பூர் ரயில் நிலையத்தின் நீளம் 750 நீளம். ஆனால், 16 மேடைகள் அமைப்பதற்கு வசதியுள்ள ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தின் நீளம் 1,015 மீட்டர். அகலம் 420 மீட்டர் என, விரிவாக்கம் செய்ய இடவசதி உள்ளது.ஆகவே, ராயபுரம் ரயில் நிலையத்தை மூன்றாவது முனையமாக மாற்ற வேண்டியும், எழும்பூர் ரயில் நிலையத்தை தாம்பரத்துக்கு மாற்றாமல், தொடர்ந்து இயக்கவும் கோரி, பா.ஜ., சார்பில் 25ம் தேதி மாலை 3 மணிக்கு மெமோரியல் ஹால் அருகில், எனது தலைமையில் தர்ணா போராட்டம் நடைபெறும்.இவ்வாறு பொன்.ராதாகிருஷ்ணன் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்

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Old November 22nd, 2011, 04:21 PM   #62
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this is the first positive review i am seeing on the automatic ticket vending machine. Good that atleast it is working fine at Tambaram and the station you have used.

The failure of ATVM - Automatic Ticket Vending Machine is

- non-availability, most of the time machine will not work
- Season ticket holders will not opt this! As it cost more than dead cheap season ticket.
- ATVM are not user friendly! It cannot be brought in every stations
- Poor advertisement by southern railway

b/w most of the amenities created by SR were mere scam and garbage

- Platform ticket vending machine - Flop system and it halted.
- Coins-Note change machine - Never works and the facility with drawn
- LED display for coaches, platform and train arrival/dep - only 50% it work
- ATVM - grossly under utilized
- Lifts/escalator - never works always at Egmore and MRTS stations

Just money is wasted on these amenities and helps oppicers to make money to their pockets!
True.. the concept is good.but poor implementation because tenders are given to bad elements...
My family bought and it works every time.
My father comes once in a month from my native. He will avoid long queues.
So does my brother who lives in bangalore, visits chennai often.
Since he is having smart card, he saves lot of time...
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 05:26 PM   #63
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Kacheguda station in Hyderabad is in the heart of Hyderabad like Egmore in Chennai.
likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.

tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.

likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 06:59 PM   #64
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SR has lands in Villivakkam, Chetpet-Egmore, Tambaram, Central - Basin Bridge and Royapuram apart from Perumbur (ICF)
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 10:44 PM   #65
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Isn't there anyway to de-congest the Irumbuliyur Sanetorium section? GST road itself becomes a 2 lane road just after irumbuliyur interchange. I believe there is a kalyana mandapam. Bottle neck starts there and goes all the way till sanetorium.

I thought of a plan

1. Develop Tambaram into a major rail terminal with a major entrance on east side.
2. Connect it with a proper road to Eat tambaram bus stand(old stand).
3. Divert the buses from Chengalpattu, Guduvanchery etc via east tambaram - Chitlapakkam main road and then rejoin GST road at MIT flyover. Crowd will also spread out and as well decongest Tambaram west side.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 10:53 PM   #66
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3. Divert the buses from Chengalpattu, Guduvanchery etc via east tambaram - Chitlapakkam main road and then rejoin GST road at MIT flyover. Crowd will also spread out and as well decongest Tambaram west side.
The areas in Chitlapakkam, East TBM, are 2 laned including Bharatamatha street and heavily congested. IMO, its unsuitable to handle traffic from GST road. It can handle bus traffic from Velachery road though.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 10:55 PM   #67
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If the monorail corridor becomes a reality we can take half the buses on this route off the road. We just need to connect the station with the east terminal gate properly.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 11:12 PM   #68
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If the monorail corridor becomes a reality we can take half the buses on this route off the road. We just need to connect the station with the east terminal gate properly.
Sorry I cant understand ur point. Monorail is from Vandalur proceeding towards Velachery and Puzhal. how come this will reduce the bus traffic from Chengalpattu/Guduvanchery proceeding mostly towards Anna salai/IRR?

Already there is this suburban system which could not manage the load on GST. If the suburban system frequencies beyond Tambaram are increased, that itself will be a plus in GST road. Taking the route inside east tambaram from GST road and joining back at MIT will increase travel time, congestion etc.

But, I agree that widening between Irumbuliyur-Sanatorium will reduce congestion. Especially, Irumbuliyur stretch of GST road should be expanded. It is one of the choking areas.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 11:32 PM   #69
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Ya. Nt much can be done. But buses from Vandalur is not needed at all. Monorail is enough. Buses from Guduvanchey and beyond could act as buffer.

Also once the monorail comes, mofussil buses could stop here itself and take irumbuliyur route permanently.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 11:42 PM   #70
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All EMUs from Beach to Tambaram should be extended till Chengalpet.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 11:45 PM   #71
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This dinamalar is totally againt Tambaram 3rd terminal proposal
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 01:46 AM   #72
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likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.
Indeed Yeshwantpur is far away place for South Bengaluru. It is good 19KM from BTM layout to Yeshwanthpur.

Yeshwanthpur was developed to cateer the north part of the Bengaluru metropolis considering the centre axis of the city as Majestic.

In Chennai, the major two terminals are located to north considering Nungambakkam as center axis of the city.

Though Yeshwanthpur is north, it does not mean that station is for north bound trains alone. Even trains to Chennai, Kerala, Pondicherry, Salem starts from there.

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tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.
Tambaram is not for Chennai core city, it is for south part of Chennai like Velacherry, Chromepet, Pallikaranai, booming OMR, GST, Airport etc., So for those who have home at Egmore, Nungambakkam, Mylapore, Royapettai will feel/see that OH.. Tambaram very far station.. but that will not be the case for the areas mentioned former.

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likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.
Villivakkam/Ambattur/Avadi does not have any land to build a new terminal. It is possible at

Annanur - for that EMU shed needs to moved to some where else

Anna Nagar - un-used station is there for long time, this can be converted into terminal, but TVS needs to give some land for conneting Arrakonam line with Anna Nagar, as of now only Perambur side is connected. And further this terminal may need land from ICF.

Central - Still huge parcel of land is available, more 15 PF can be constructed to raise the present 15 count to 30 PF. For this huge terminal to happen, some god father is needed for the project.

And this does not stop the need of Tambaram terminal which is much needed for booming south Chennai.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 07:14 AM   #73
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likewise, yeshwantpur in bangalore is not some far away place, just 8 km from city station. tambaram is a good 30 km from egmore.

tambaram is far away and only reason i would think it needs to be developed into a terminal is if current terminals don't have capacity. otherwise, it is a bit like kalyan in mumbai. terminating trains at tambaram would be a problem for folks travelling to different parts of chennai city.

likewise, we need a similar large station where all west bound trains should stop. villivakkam is an ideal place but not sure if it has space for additional platforms. ambattur/some station near bypass might be good alternatives. kr puram in bangalore is a very important station where about 20% board and even more get down.
Hello Sir,
Yeshwantpur may be 8km from Majestic but it has no connectivity from anywhere in the city (public transport). Whereas TBM is well connected both bus and train (EMU). So it is not same to compare. For me 30km more closer than travelling to YPR which is just 8km (actually takes 2+hrs if you go through busy MG road). TBM just take 35-40min from centre of the city (by train) and almost same time by bus (21G, 70, 18, 66 and 51 series). I dont know who the hell keep crying TBM is far. As long as you keep reading 8 Vs 30km no one will understand. Measure in terms of time and accessibility.

I have no objection to make RYP as terminal but I think TBM is more ideal than RYP.

RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.

Also please accept the fact that City is expanded. It is no longer Guindy which is the boundary.

Height of all, SR is tight lipped as if people are talking about some other entity. Noone is coming out to give clear picture to people.

In case RYP should be terminal, there should be a dedicated line connecting PARK, MAS and RYP with dedicated shuttle service operated every 5 min. Existing line (I think there is one unused line between from Basin Bridge and towards MSB) can be used for this. Or it can even connect MS (which was a paper project MS-MAS shhuttle). So in one go it shall connect MS-MAS-RYP. It should also have connectivity for Park, Park Town and Basin Bridge sub-urban stations. Epdi...? (irukkura thollai pathatha...? ippa innum onna...?).
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Tambaram as southern terminal has a big plus. Pre-existing rail infrastructure. (as opposed to Ambattur/Avadi/Anna Nagar areas, where such a big land parcel is non existing near the railway tracks).

Tambaram terminal can add real value, when it gets connected to Sriperumbudur and beyond, say Arakkonam. This way the some of the west / north bound trains can be shifted to Tambaram. Unless Tamabaram gets connectivity with other areas, its effectiveness will be diminished.
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RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.
Royapuram is well connected to other parts of the city by bus. BTW Royapuram is RPM rite?
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All EMUs from Beach to Tambaram should be extended till Chengalpet.
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Old November 25th, 2011, 12:41 PM   #77
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Hello Sir,
Yeshwantpur may be 8km from Majestic but it has no connectivity from anywhere in the city (public transport). Whereas TBM is well connected both bus and train (EMU). So it is not same to compare. For me 30km more closer than travelling to YPR which is just 8km (actually takes 2+hrs if you go through busy MG road). TBM just take 35-40min from centre of the city (by train) and almost same time by bus (21G, 70, 18, 66 and 51 series). I dont know who the hell keep crying TBM is far. As long as you keep reading 8 Vs 30km no one will understand. Measure in terms of time and accessibility.

I have no objection to make RYP as terminal but I think TBM is more ideal than RYP.

RYP, as of now only 1series busses connect people form Centre and SOuth to RYP area. I have no clue what time the MSB-Avadi train passes through RYP (dont know its frequency). So, it will be either auto (paying 250Rs min) or by own transport to reach RYP.

Also please accept the fact that City is expanded. It is no longer Guindy which is the boundary.

Height of all, SR is tight lipped as if people are talking about some other entity. Noone is coming out to give clear picture to people.

In case RYP should be terminal, there should be a dedicated line connecting PARK, MAS and RYP with dedicated shuttle service operated every 5 min. Existing line (I think there is one unused line between from Basin Bridge and towards MSB) can be used for this. Or it can even connect MS (which was a paper project MS-MAS shhuttle). So in one go it shall connect MS-MAS-RYP. It should also have connectivity for Park, Park Town and Basin Bridge sub-urban stations. Epdi...? (irukkura thollai pathatha...? ippa innum onna...?).
Exactly..If we keep it in Tambaram, It will definitely help the city to grow more beyond that South strech..Also tambaram had enough space there..A main Transport hub coming 30 km away from the city is Excatly Chennai like metro Wanted!!
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