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Old August 30th, 2011, 02:26 PM   #1
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Car models per nation

Hi everybody, ever since I came here to Germany I noticed that the vast majority of cars the Germans drive are Audi-BMW-Mercedes-VW. German cars. By eye I would say 90% of German registered cars belong to one of these vendors. Fiat is only present with 500s and very few Puntos (almost always elaborated), and some brands are virtually non-existent, like Citroen, Renault, Lancia and the Japanese ones. On the other side, for instance, virtually 100% of French registered cars I encountered are Peugeot-Citroen-Renault.

How is the situation in your country/ies?
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Old August 30th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #2
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In Poland it will be Skoda, Ford, Toyota, Opel and VW... and then all the rest.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #3
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As the Netherlands has no domestic major car brands, you can see just about any brand here. German, French and Japanese models are most popular. People are often chauvinistic when it comes to buying a car. A German would likely buy a German car, a Frenchman would buy a French car, and an American would buy an American gas guzzler.
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As the Netherlands has no domestic major car brands, you can see just about any brand here. German, French and Japanese models are most popular. People are often chauvinistic when it comes to buying a car. A German would likely buy a German car, a Frenchman would buy a French car, and an American would buy an American gas guzzler.
...on the other hand, there's a certain snob appeal here to certain imports, particularly German and British (Jaguar... are the British doing anything else these days?) And Japanese cars have a good reputation for reliability. Peugeot and Renault aren't available here at all, far as I know. I'll try to make a rough count on my way to work (driving, because I have to go pick up a package at lunchtime. With an ADAC road atlas among other things, from a travel bookstore in Groningen I found on line. :-) )
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Old August 30th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #5
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Peugeot and Renault aren't available here at all, far as I know. I'll try to make a rough count on my way to work (driving, because I have to go pick up a package at lunchtime. With an ADAC road atlas among other things, from a travel bookstore in Groningen I found on line. :-) )
Peugeot, CitroŽn and Renault left the American market in the 1980's. As far as I know Peugeot was considered the most successful French brand on the American market.

That bookstore, was it called "de zwerver"?
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Old August 30th, 2011, 03:18 PM   #6
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Peugeots are illegal in the US even for private import. They don't make it through the American safety control.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #7
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Peugeot, CitroŽn and Renault left the American market in the 1980's. As far as I know Peugeot was considered the most successful French brand on the American market.

That bookstore, was it called "de zwerver"?
I think it was the Renault 5 at that time, often reffered to by Americans as 'Le Car'.
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It's not that they don't make it through the US safety controls, the European ones are just as stringent, it's just that since the French brands don't have any presence in the US market they don't federalise their cars, it's nigly little things like indicator repeators on the front wings, orange colored indicator lens, US specific airbags......
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The main problem is that American emissions standards are extremely strict for diesel passenger cars. I assume that's why few European cars apart from the upper class BMW / Mercedes are sold in the United States. In Europe, some countries have a diesel share of 60 - 80%, though this is less than 5 % in the U.S. (hence gas guzzlers. Diesel engines are much more efficient but they emit more NOx and far less CO2 than gasoline cars).
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that's probably down to american auto makers lobbying. i mean the strict rules
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Peugeot, CitroŽn and Renault left the American market in the 1980's. As far as I know Peugeot was considered the most successful French brand on the American market.

That bookstore, was it called "de zwerver"?
De Zwerver indeed.

I couldn't keep an exact count while driving, of course, but a solid majority of the cars I saw were Japanese, lots of German, some American and two Swedish (a Saab and a Volvo). I didn't think there'd be so many Japanese cars and so few American ones. But of course many of the cars from imported brands are actually made in North America.
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I think it was the Renault 5 at that time, often reffered to by Americans as 'Le Car'.
I remember Le Car! It wasn't just referred to as such by Americans, though, but actually labeled ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Renault5-Le_Car.jpg ) and advertised ( http://www.adclassix.com/images/78renaultlecar1.jpg ) thus.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 04:17 PM   #13
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First 6 months of 2011 in Croatia (no domestic car production)

1. VW
2. Opel
3. Renault
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The Netherlands:

Cars sold since 1983.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 05:00 PM   #15
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Finland: Passenger cars by make:

http://194.157.221.15/markkinointija...jid=542&kieli=

(Interesting. 14 Goggomobils still alive in the vehicle register.)

Passenger cars per model (top 200):

http://194.157.221.15/markkinointija...jid=543&kieli=
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Wasn't Goggomobil just the model name? It should read "Glas", which is the brand that produced it.
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Cars sold since 1983.
GMC USA and Ford USA? I'm guessing that P/U and vans imported from the US and/or Canada. I noticed a lot of Dodge Ram P/U trucks as well when I was looking at the Dutch highway system.

Vehicle makes in Canada:
Ford
Chevy/GMC
Dodge/Chrysler
Toyota
Suzuki
Honda
Hyundai (86 Hyundai Stellar FTW )
Mercedes
BMW
Land Rover (Though not the European bodystyle. Apparently it's to do with safety and emissions.)
Subaru
Smart (Diesel engine no longer available)
Kia
Mazda
Volvo
Jaguar
Porsche

I'm sure there's more, but the coffee has yet to kick in.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 07:34 PM   #18
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Wasn't Goggomobil just the model name? It should read "Glas", which is the brand that produced it.
Those tiny funny cars were sold in Finland under a brand name Goggomobil. That is why the register entry is correct. Only the later models of Glas were sold under that name.
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In Serbia Zastava was the most popular car, and in recent years Fiat is again starting the production of their cars so that popularises Fiat, especially because during the crisis govt was giving some subvenctions for Fiat. Most popular cars are: VW, Fiat, Dacia, Opel, Citroen, Toyota and others.
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In Portugal and the UK its quite a mix. The UK has more Fords and Vauxhalls than Portugal
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