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Old August 30th, 2011, 09:03 PM   #21
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France is so boring. I'm sick of those 307s next to 307s. And they don't like cars from upper middle class on.
I appreciate Germans. Ok, they buy domestic cars, but at least they are good.

Slovenia is very mixed. Renault and VW are the leading brands. Here is the table for 2010:
http://www.avtodirekt.si/tricks/n/Sl...rg_v_letu_2010

Renault clio is very common due to its production in Novo mesto.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 09:06 PM   #22
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In Sweden, quite possibly almost a third of the cars around are Volvos and Saabs. Others are Toyota, VW and Ford. Audi and Opel are fairly common as well.

In Ireland, I think Toyota, Ford and VW must be the most common makes. Followed by Mercedes and Peugeot.
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Old August 30th, 2011, 10:06 PM   #23
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Best selling car models in Spain 2010, I'd say it's quite varied :

1.- Renault Mégane
2.- Seat Ibiza
3.- Citroën C4
4.- Nissan Qashqai
5.- Peugeot 207
6.- Volkswagen Golf
7.- Seat León
8.- Ford Fiesta
9.- Opel Astra
10.- Peugeot 308
11.- Opel Corsa
12.- Ford Focus
13.- Citroën C3
14.- Volkswagen Polo
15.- Renault Clio
16.- Volkswagen Passat
17.- Seat Altea
18.- Audi A3
19.- Hyundai i30
20.- Opel Insignia

http://www.motorafondo.net/ventas-de...-durante-2010/
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Old August 30th, 2011, 11:14 PM   #24
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The main problem is that American emissions standards are extremely strict for diesel passenger cars. I assume that's why few European cars apart from the upper class BMW / Mercedes are sold in the United States. In Europe, some countries have a diesel share of 60 - 80%, though this is less than 5 % in the U.S. (hence gas guzzlers. Diesel engines are much more efficient but they emit more NOx and far less CO2 than gasoline cars).
A fair number of European cars are sold in the US. Audi, BMW, Mercedes,VW, Jaguar, Volvo, Porsche, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamboghini, Rolls Royce, Bentley, plus some mass market cars which were designed in Europe and are now built/imported to the US like the Opel Insignia, Astra, Ford Fiesta, Focus 3.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 01:08 AM   #25
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Just by observing cars on the road I can tell that Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Chevrolet, Ford, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep, Hyundai/Kia comprise over 90% of all cars in the U.S.

BMW is probably the most popular of all imports (excluding Japanese/Korean of course). Then VW, Audi, Volvo, Mercedes, Jaguar.

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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:47 AM   #26
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In Sweden, quite possibly almost a third of the cars around are Volvos and Saabs. Others are Toyota, VW and Ford. Audi and Opel are fairly common as well.

In Ireland, I think Toyota, Ford and VW must be the most common makes. Followed by Mercedes and Peugeot.
I also see an exceptional amount of American made cars on the roads in Sweden.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 10:44 AM   #27
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And this are the results of the portuguese voting refering this year:

Renault
Volkswagen
Peugeot
Opel
Ford
Seat
Citroën
Fiat
BMW
Nissan
Mercedes
Audi
Toyota
Hyundai
Volvo
Skoda
Chevrolet
Mitsubishi
Kia
Smart
Dacia
Alfa Romeo
Honda
MINI
Mazda
Suzuki
Lancia
Porsche
Lexus
Saab
Dodge
Land Rover
Jaguar
Aston Martin
Chrysler
Ferrari
Bentley
Subaru
Lamborghini
Maserati
Lotus
Maybach
Daihatsu
Ssang Yong
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Old August 31st, 2011, 12:06 PM   #28
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I also see an exceptional amount of American made cars on the roads in Sweden.
American cars are very common in Sweden compared to mainland Europe, and if you visit some of the northern regions (basically Norrland) you will sometimes see as many Tahoes, Rams, GMC etc as "regular" europeans cars like BMW, Mercedes, japanese makes etc.

But no matter where in Sweden you go, most cars you see will be Volvo, Volvo, Volvo, Volvo, a few Saabs and then another Volvo.

Here's a list of new registrations in Sweden from January - July 2011 (2010)

1. Volvo V70, 12 100 (14 940)
2. Volkswagen Passat, 7 952 (7 563)
3. Volkswagen Golf, 7 503 (7 003)
4. Volvo V60, 6 001 (0)
5. Volvo V50, 5 800 (6 304)
6. Volvo XC60, 4 161 (3 034)
7. Kia Cee’d, 3 951 (4 629)
8. Audi A4, 3 726 (4 162)
9. BMW 5-Serie, 3 366 (1 980)
10. Renault Megane, 3 358 (3 619)

11. Ford Focus, 3 123 (3 547)
12. Skoda Fabia, 2 903 (2 073)
13. BMW 3-Serie, 2 825 (2 816)
14. Renault Clio, 2 666 (3 100)
15. Skoda Octavia, 2 633 (2 384)
16. Saab 9-3, 2 557 (2 717)
17. Mercedes C-klass, 2 487 (1 712)
18. Nissan Qashqai, 2 412 (2 173)
19. Volkswagen Polo, 2 312 (2 331)
20. Toyota Auris, 2 261 (1 718)
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Old August 31st, 2011, 03:41 PM   #29
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In Lithuania most common ones would be Audi, BMW and Volkswagen

In Ireland I'd say Toyota, Honda, BMW are most popular...
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Old August 31st, 2011, 04:08 PM   #30
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In Lithuania most common ones would be Audi, BMW and Volkswagen

In Ireland I'd say Toyota, Honda, BMW are most popular...
Done up Audi's and BMW's, right? Old or accident repairs from abroad getting a make-over. That's what Lithuanians and Poles are known for, as well as some other Eastern European nations. People there can't afford brandnew Audi's and BMW's unless they're either very wealthy or mafia. In Lithuania they don't even bother replacing the French or UK numberplates on repairs, and locals continue driving them prentending to be John Smith and Francoise la Vie en Rose.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 04:25 PM   #31
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In this document, I can see the number of Trabants increasing: From 126 vehicles in 2009 to 131 ones in 2010.



In the earlier days, a story told that 20 persons died in East Berlin in a collision of two Trabants. Both of the drivers died in the cars. In addition, 18 pedestrians were killed by the fragments.

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Old August 31st, 2011, 08:51 PM   #32
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Done up Audi's and BMW's, right? Old or accident repairs from abroad getting a make-over. That's what Lithuanians and Poles are known for, as well as some other Eastern European nations. People there can't afford brandnew Audi's and BMW's unless they're either very wealthy or mafia.
I think the above is a common misconception. Last time I was in the Baltics (Riga '09), I was amazed that this time I didn't get to see a single Soviet era car. But mainly that most cars were generally newer than in Sweden. When it comes to financing ownership of new cars - I can't speak for Poland here - I think leasing agreements played a major role: the bank legally owns your car until you've paid it off. Tallinn and Riga used to be littered with billboards with 'liising' ads on them

In fact, large parts of the economy was based on this and it was a major factor in the severity of the Latvian financial crisis, almost bringing the big four Swedish and Danish banks (SEB, Swedbank, Nordea, Danske/Sampo) down in the fall, as they were the major players and had taken extreme risks. Risks they would never dare take in their home markets.

As for American made cars in Sweden, I really have to start looking out for them, because I rarely see any. At least here down south.

@ Road UK - out of curiosity; what routes are you normally driving when over here?
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:02 PM   #33
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Hi everybody, ever since I came here to Germany I noticed that the vast majority of cars the Germans drive are Audi-BMW-Mercedes-VW. German cars. By eye I would say 90% of German registered cars belong to one of these vendors. Fiat is only present with 500s and very few Puntos (almost always elaborated), and some brands are virtually non-existent, like Citroen, Renault, Lancia and the Japanese ones. On the other side, for instance, virtually 100% of French registered cars I encountered are Peugeot-Citroen-Renault.

How is the situation in your country/ies?
No sight of Renaults in Germany?
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:06 PM   #34
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All over. Doing my deliveries in a van, most of the times I deliver in Stockholm, Sodertalje, Skovde, Kristinehamm and Gothenburg. Always start in Helsingborg and mainly use E4 or E20. Went to Mo i Rana once via Stockholm, Sundsvall and Storuman. Also go to Finland a lot via Stockholm Helsinki. One time I missed the ferry and due to a deadline I had to keep I ended up driving round the Gulf of Bothnia.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:25 PM   #35
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No sight of Renaults in Germany?
There are some, but certainly not as common as in other neighboring countries, where the car stock is more diverse, though Škoda is dominating the Czech Republic. Renault cars are simply one of the least reliable cars, but they are also cheap, so people apparently prefer a cheaper purchase over more expensive maintenance.

I drive a Renault too (Kangoo commercial van), but I don't think I would buy a Renault (or Citroën) passenger car. Commercial vans are sturdy and reliable, less electronics that break down before you even touch it. The last 24.000 kilometers I had less than € 50 in maintenance (just balancing the wheels).
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:28 PM   #36
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I sure have seen very few Renault German-plated cars. The most represented French car in Germany is surely Peugeot, although there aren't many of them, also.
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Renault has some nice cars IMO. How reliable is it?
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Old August 31st, 2011, 09:30 PM   #38
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Most popular in Latvia would be Volkswagen, Toyota, Renault, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Lada, Mercedes, Skoda, BMW and Hyundai.
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Renault has some nice cars IMO. How reliable is it?
Few cars have significant mechanical problems nowadays, unless it's a factory error, and then they are usually recalled. However, Renault, and French cars in general, tend to have above average problems with the electrical components. Nowadays they don't fix that, but just insert a whole new unit, the cost of which is easily more than € 500,-.

That said, I am amazed by how often Americans change their motor oil. I change it every 20.000 - 25.000 kilometers but I've read about people who change it every 2,000 - 3,000 miles. I'd hate to put € 50 worth of oil in my car every month.
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Impressive. The route Stockhom-Helsinki via Tornio is only a small detour of some 1800 km's!

You must have travelled on more km's of road in this country than I ever will.
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