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Old January 17th, 2015, 06:54 PM   #121
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Biggest cities in Serbia:
1.Belgrade:A1 and A3
2.Novi Sad:A1
3.Nis:A1,A4
4.Kragujevac:doesn't have motorway access,but expressway is curently U/C that will connect it with A1
5.Cacak:doens't have motorway access,but next year it should be connected to A2
6.Subotica:A1
7.Pancevo:doesn't have motorway access,but there are some plans
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Old January 17th, 2015, 07:49 PM   #122
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Updated, more comprehensive list for Sweden:
  1. Stockholm (1,4 M): E4, E18, E20, rv 73, rv 75, lv 222
  2. Göteborg (550 k): E6, E20, E45, rv 40, lv 155
  3. Malmö (280 k): E6, E20, E22, E65, Inre ringvägen
  4. Uppsala (140 k): E4
  5. Västerås (110 k): E18
  6. Örebro (107 k): E18, E20
  7. Linköping (105 k): E4, rv 34
  8. Helsingborg (97 k): E4, E6, E20
  9. Jönköping (89 k): E4
  10. Norrköping (87 k): E4, E22
  11. Lund (83 k): E22
  12. Umeå (80 k): None
  13. Gävle (71 k): E4, rv 68
  14. Borås (66 k): rv 40
  15. Eskilstuna (65 k): E20
  16. Södertälje (65 k): E4, E20
  17. Karlstad (62 k): E18
  18. Växjö (61 k): Technically none, motorway stub on rv 25, rv 27, otherwise expressway
  19. Halmstad (59 k): E6, E20
  20. Sundsvall (51 k): E4
  21. Luleå (46 k): None (expressway)
  22. Trollhättan (46 k): E45, rv 44 (motorway turns into expressway a while before)
  23. Östersund (44 k): None
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Old January 17th, 2015, 08:07 PM   #123
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And what about German cities?
70. Reutlingen (120k): ~28km to A8 but there is B28 expressway too
98. Tübingen (83k): ~15km to A81 but there is B27 expressway too
102. Konstanz (80k): ~30km to A81 but only 14km to current B33 expressway end and 1km to Swiss A7
103. Marburg (80k): ~20km to A485 but there is B3 expressway too
118. Detmold (73k): ~20km to A2
119. Celle (71k): ~25km to A7 but there is B3 expressway too
143. Schwäbisch Gmünd (61k): ~30km to A7 but there is B29 expressway too (but not to A7)
151. Hameln (58k): ~20km to A2
154. Friedrichshafen (58k): ~20km to A96
155. Stralsund (57k): ~25km to A20 but there is B96 expressway too
175. Waiblingen (52k): ~20km to A81 but there is B29 expressway too

In general, Stendal is called the biggest German town without Autobahn (40,000 inhabitants) but A14 is announced to be built "soon". It's about 35km to the next Autobahn section which has been opened last October.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 02:23 AM   #124
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Well, NZ really doesn't have inter-city motorways as such although a number of cities do have motorways within them that connect various suburbs.

If we go by that measure, then Palmerston North, with a population of 82,400 people is the biggest without motorways or "expressways". Second biggest would probably be Nelson with a population of 64,100 people, as I believe the Stoke Bypass is only three lanes and not designated an expressway, despite being grade separated and controlled access for its entire distance.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 02:24 PM   #125
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Poland (updated January 2015)

List of the biggest cities without motorway access:
  • Bydgoszcz (8th biggest city) - 359 428 inhabitants
  • Lublin (9th) - 343 598
  • Białystok (11th) - 295 282
  • Częstochowa (13th) - 232 318 (A1 in tender)
  • Radom (14th) - 218 466
  • Kielce (17th) - 199 870

Although the author clearly mentions motorways, another list has to be made because there is no reason to exclude our expressways. Just in the last five years we’ve built over a thousand kilometers of them and I’m deeply convinced most of you are aware of their high quality. Without further ado, here’s a list of the biggest cities without motorway or expressway access:
  • Bydgoszcz (8th) - 359 428 (the city's bypass [S5] can't actually be called an access)
  • Płock (30th) - 122 815
  • Wałbrzych (32th) - 119 171
  • Koszalin (37th) - 109 343 (S6 in tender)
  • Kalisz* (38th) - 104 676 (*S11 is ~20km away but it’s 1x2; a 2x2 section is U/C -> see Ostrów Wielkopolski bypass, but it will remain unconnected to the network)
  • Słupsk* (41th) - 94 849 (*the city has only a 1x2/2x2 bypass; the rest of S6 is expected to be built in a few years)
  • Nowy Sącz (44th) - 82 877
  • Jelenia Góra (45th) - 82 846 (S3 in tender, ~20km away)
  • Siedlce (47th) - 76 438

Fun fact: Mielec, 70th biggest city with 61 238 inhabitants has no motorway / expressway / droga krajowa access whereas the smallest of them all - Wyśmierzyce (915th biggest city with 906 inhabitants) is accessible via DK48.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 02:27 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Autoputevi kao hobi View Post
Biggest cities in Serbia:
1.Belgrade:A1 and A3
2.Novi Sad:A1
3.Nis:A1,A4
4.Kragujevac:doesn't have motorway access,but expressway is curently U/C that will connect it with A1
5.Cacak:doens't have motorway access,but next year it should be connected to A2
6.Subotica:A1
7.Pancevo:doesn't have motorway access,but there are some plans
This list is wrong, Čačak is smaller than Zrenjanin and Pančevo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa...ties_of_Serbia
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Old January 18th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #127
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list of the biggest cities without motorway or expressway access
Bydgoszcz should be included. Because you can't accually access (or leave) it with a motorway. There is just few kilometers of motorway-standard bypass but it can't be called "an access to motorway". (Compare to Kielce or Lublin - you can drive ~30km away from the city using a motorway.)
Also you forgot Olsztyn (175 k)
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Old January 18th, 2015, 04:52 PM   #128
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In Albania, capital city Tirana, is not connected directly to a proper motorway.

More precisely, Tirana is connected with Durrës with an expresway, whilst with Elbasan soon (in few months) will be connected with a motorway.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 05:45 PM   #129
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Bydgoszcz should be included. Because you can't accually access (or leave) it with a motorway. There is just few kilometers of motorway-standard bypass but it can't be called "an access to motorway". (Compare to Kielce or Lublin - you can drive ~30km away from the city using a motorway.)
Also you forgot Olsztyn (175 k)
Fair enough, Bydgoszcz makes it to the list . However, Olsztyn is ~23km away from S51 so, by author’s standards, it is within the range (luckily, next sections of S51 are already in tender).
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Old January 18th, 2015, 05:51 PM   #130
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This list is wrong, Čačak is smaller than Zrenjanin and Pančevo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa...ties_of_Serbia
Really bro ?
Anyway i have been using another list.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #131
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Serbia, as of today

1. Belgrade (1,233,796) - A1, A3, Belgrade bypass (not finished)
2. Novi Sad (277,522) - A1
3. Niš (187,544) - A1, A4
4. Kragujevac (150,835) - none
5. Subotica (105,681) - A1
6. Zrenjanin (76,511) - none
7. Pančevo (76,203) - none
8. Čačak (73,331) - none
9. Novi Pazar (66,527) - none
10. Kraljevo (64,175) - none
11. Smederevo (64,175) - none
12. Leskovac (60,288) - A1
13. Valjevo (58,932) - none
14. Kruševac (58,745) - none
15. Vranje (55,138) - A1
16. Šabac (53,919) - none
17. Užice (52,646) - none
18. Sombor (47,623) - none
19. Požarevac (44,183) - none
20. Pirot (38,785) - A4
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Old January 20th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #132
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Bosnia and Herzegovina by Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Herzegovina):

1. Sarajevo Sarajevo Canton 438,443 --- A1
2. Banja Luka Republika Srpska 199,191 --- E-661
3. Tuzla Tuzla Canton 120,441 --- nope
4. Zenica Zenica-Doboj Canton 115,134 --- A1
5. Bijeljina Republika Srpska 114,663 --- nope
6. Mostar Herzegovina-Neretva Canton 113,169 --- nope
7. Prijedor Republika Srpska 97,588 --- nope
8. Brčko Brčko District 93,028 --- nope
9. Doboj Republika Srpska 77,223 --- nope
10. Široki Brijeg West Herzegovina Canton 29,809 (???) --- nope
11. Cazin Una-Sana Canton 69,411 --- nope

NOTE: info about cantons, district and Republic of Srpska from another Wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina): "However, the central government's power is highly limited, as the country is largely decentralized and comprises two autonomous entities: the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska, with a third region, the Brčko District, governed under local government. The Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina is itself complex and consists of 10 federal units – cantons." Just to avoid confusing
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Old January 20th, 2015, 12:30 AM   #133
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Largest in Canada is likely Winnipeg

It's surrounded with 4-lane at grade perimeter highway. Does that count as a motorway? I'd say no.

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Old January 20th, 2015, 10:22 AM   #134
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Regarding the topic of this thread - what does a "motorway access" mean? Does a city have a motorway access, if there is a motorway completely within its limits, but not one crossing them?

This question becomes relevant if Kuopio and Siilinjärvi (Finland) merge; then Kuopio will have about 130 000 inhabitants and one motorway of 47 km, completely within. Today, Siilinjärvi is the only place that is connected with Kuopio by motorway.

As of now, Jyväskylä (population 135000) has three little stretches of motorway (each less than 10 km); they do not connect with each other and only one of them crosses the city limit, continuing only some hundreds of metres in neighbouring Muurame.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #135
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I guess the definition here is the widest possible: a city served by a motorway, in every possible way.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 01:13 PM   #136
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Trollhättan (46 k): None
This is clearly misleading as the city has acces from south and west.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 03:24 PM   #137
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Denmark Update

Cities/towns ranked according to size (strict definition) with motorway (continuous motorway linked to the national and European motorway network)

Copenhagen; 1246611; yes; E20,E47,16,17,19,21,201,O4
Aarhus 259754 yes E45, 15,501, 26 in planning
Odense 172512 yes E20,9
Aalborg 109092 yes E45
Esbjerg 71618 yes E20
Randers 61163 yes E45
Kolding 58021 yes E20,E45
Horsens 55884 yes E45
Vejle 53230 yes E45, 18
Roskilde 48721 yes 21
Herning 47765 yes 15,18, 502 in planning/construction
Helsingør 46336 yes E47
Silkeborg 43158 (yes) 15, 15 has reached outskirts of Silkeborg in both directions, and will be completed through Silkeborg i 2018
Næstved 42424 (no) 54 planned/approved, expected 2019/2020
Fredericia 39922 yes E20, E45
Viborg 38572 no 26 planned, and partly approved as motorway, but not necessarily all the way to Viborg
Køge 35768 yes E20, E47
Holstebro 34873 (no) 18 planned/under construction, completed in 2017/2018
Taastrup 33121 yes 21,O4
Slagelse 32005 yes E20
Hillerød 31181 no Motorway 16 currently ending 10 km south of Hillerød. Current expressway 16 proposed/planned to be widened to motorway
Sønderborg 27434 yes 8
Holbæk 26942 yes 21,23
Svendborg 26672 yes 9
Hjørring 25071 yes E39
Hørsholm 24107 yes E47
Frederikshavn 23156 yes E45
Nørresundby 21761 yes E39,E45
Haderslev 21574 yes E45
Skive 20505 no

By this Næstved (42424) is the largest town currently without motorway access, Viborg (38572) is the largest town without any current plan, and Skive (20505) is the largest town with no plan for continuous motorway at all.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 03:42 PM   #138
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Largest in Canada is likely Winnipeg

It's surrounded with 4-lane at grade perimeter highway. Does that count as a motorway? I'd say no.
Some stretches of the Perimeter Highway are freeway-like, but it's clearly not a continuous controlled-access highway.

Winnipeg is usually quoted as being the largest city in North America with no freeways.
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Some stretches of the Perimeter Highway are freeway-like, but it's clearly not a continuous controlled-access highway.

Winnipeg is usually quoted as being the largest city in North America with no freeways.
And probably the largest in the developed world, isn't it?
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This is clearly misleading as the city has acces from south and west.
Only the newly constructed one from the south which I missed. From the west the approach is only expressway.
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