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Old January 20th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #141
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And probably the largest in the developed world, isn't it?
One could argue that Rīga has a similar lack of motorways. Although Rīga has a slightly smaller city population, it has a larger metropolitan area.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 09:52 PM   #142
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One could argue that Rīga has a similar lack of motorways. Although Rīga has a slightly smaller city population, it has a larger metropolitan area.
Actually Riga is larger:
Riga 699k
Winnipeg 633k
It's debateable if Latvia can be included in the developed countries list, but since its HDI is (slighty) greater than 0.8, I guess yes.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 10:05 PM   #143
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Do developed cities in developing countries (like Moscow) count?
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Old January 20th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #144
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Do developed cities in developing countries (like Moscow) count?
It's difficult to determine whether a region is developed or developing. For countries, the HDI below or above 0.8 is probably the best indicator. Russia has less than 0.8
Anyway, Moscow has motorways.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 11:04 PM   #145
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Hence, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Mexico, Serbia, Bosnia,... should not count...

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Old January 20th, 2015, 11:43 PM   #146
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Congrats for the 2000th post.

Talking about the entire world, I'm thinking about Manaus (1,8 million) and only a paved road to Venezuela and a barely passable dirt track to the rest of Brazil.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 11:46 PM   #147
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Kinshasa (pop. 9 million) has no motorways. Not much passes for a motorway in places like Kolkata and Dhaka as well.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 11:57 PM   #148
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Kinshasa (pop. 9 million) has no motorways. Not much passes for a motorway in places like Kolkata and Dhaka as well.
Yes, I forgot about them. However Kolkata seems having a bit of blue line on OSM.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/22.5522/88.2614
Anyway, I was amazed to discover that India has only 1,208km of motorways. For a country of that size it means NOTHING. It's less than in small countries like Switzerland or Croatia.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 12:37 PM   #149
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Actually Riga is larger:
Riga 699k
Winnipeg 633k
It's debateable if Latvia can be included in the developed countries list, but since its HDI is (slighty) greater than 0.8, I guess yes.
Those are old figures. Riga used to be much larger than Winnipeg, but has gone down in population since while Winnipeg has been slowly growing.

Riga had 910,000 inhabitants in 1989, while Winnipeg had 617,000 in 1991.

2011 census figures are: Riga 659,000 and Winnipeg 664,000. In 2014 Riga has gone further down to 643,000.

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Old January 21st, 2015, 03:18 PM   #150
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Riga has lost a Ljubljana.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 04:36 PM   #151
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Serbia, as of today

1. Belgrade (1,233,796) - A1, A3, Belgrade bypass (not finished)
2. Novi Sad (277,522) - A1
3. Niš (187,544) - A1, A4
4. Kragujevac (150,835) - none most of the expressway connecting to A1 is finished
5. Subotica (105,681) - A1
6. Zrenjanin (76,511) - none
7. Pančevo (76,203) - none Does Beograd-Pančevo road count as an expressway?
8. Čačak (73,331) - none
9. Novi Pazar (66,527) - none
10. Kraljevo (64,175) - none
11. Smederevo (64,175) - none as close to A1 as Niš which is counted, almost within city limits
12. Leskovac (60,288) - A1
13. Valjevo (58,932) - none
14. Kruševac (58,745) - none
15. Vranje (55,138) - A1 only a short section
16. Šabac (53,919) - none
17. Užice (52,646) - none
18. Sombor (47,623) - none
19. Požarevac (44,183) - none
20. Pirot (38,785) - A4 is not yet completed
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Old January 21st, 2015, 07:06 PM   #152
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Beograd-Pancevo is not expressway because it doesn't have grade-separated intersections.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 09:31 PM   #153
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Congrats for the 2000th post.

Talking about the entire world, I'm thinking about Manaus (1,8 million) and only a paved road to Venezuela and a barely passable dirt track to the rest of Brazil.
How can such a large city exist without proper connection to the rest of the world? The 1.8M people living there need to get food and a lot of other stuff that cannot be produced localy.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 09:51 PM   #154
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How can such a large city exist without proper connection to the rest of the world? The 1.8M people living there need to get food and a lot of other stuff that cannot be produced localy.
Manaus is built on river Amazon... it is connected to the world by boat.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 10:46 PM   #155
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Iquitos in Peru is similarly remote and not accessible by road. And all the water flows to the east while the rest of Peru's cities are to the west, with the Andes in between.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 11:25 PM   #156
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Also Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia, isn't accessible by road.
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 06:27 AM   #157
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How can such a large city exist without proper connection to the rest of the world? The 1.8M people living there need to get food and a lot of other stuff that cannot be produced localy.
Manaus is an industrial city, most televisions, motorcycles in Brazil are manufactured there. Amazon river is huge see it:

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Old January 22nd, 2015, 06:36 AM   #158
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How can such a large city exist without proper connection to the rest of the world? The 1.8M people living there need to get food and a lot of other stuff that cannot be produced localy.
Planes, trains and automobiles.

Well, planes and boats, I suppose.
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The Amazon is practically a superhighway.

In addition, the rainforest is dense and huge. Also the ground ain't really the best for road building.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:53 AM   #160
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Riga has lost a Ljubljana.
Or they got rid of it intentionally. :-P
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