Philippine Education - T1

[renell]

opinions, articles, discussion, whatever about schools, education in the Philippines

compared to other countries, the Philippines seems to have two less years of school. Here in Australia, you can stop school at Year 10 (4th year there), but can continue on for a High School Certificate up to Year 12. There should be changed to improve public schools there. Im surprised why the government isn't spending heaps more on facilities and teacher training

[mhe-ann]

I think they will add another one year (after graduating in Elem), or the 7th grade, before one can enter HS.

[renell]

well in my old school in belgium, it was 6 years of elementary, 2 years of Middle School, then 4 years of High School. Phils don't have Middle School. In Sydney, there's 6 years of public school, then 6 years of High School, in which you do exams for an School Certificate in Year 10, then High School Certificate optional in Year. 12.

[bagel]

Let me compare.
US K 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
RP K P 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1st 2nd 3rd 4th

Same number of years right? Or was my RP school different?

tama ba....13 yrs daw sa canada

[Dvorak]

not all schools before have 7th grade here in RP.. only the exclusive ones have that..

[kennethologist]

nakakalungkot isipin ung state ng education dito sa pilipinas...the government is too preoccupied in spending on other things than on our country's future generation.

[Francis20]

yep, sa Dubai din, me 7th grade. so you would be amazed to find your classmates from those schools are 1 or 2 years older than you are.
before, there was no ruling on what age would be eligible for school. so i was able to enter elementary at the age of 5. And college at 15. Today, you have to be 6 years old or at least turning 6 in the next 1 or 2 or 3 months.
now let's talk what subjects did we took in elem or hs.

[mhe-ann]

Originally Posted by mbassyambassador

nakakalungkot isipin ung state ng education dito sa pilipinas...the government is too preoccupied in spending on other things than on our country's future generation.

oo nga po. isa pa, sabi nila, ang edukasyon ang isa sa mga pinaka-importante para sa tao, pero bakit ang mahal ng tuition fees? books? computer lab fees? waahh!

[kennethologist]

Originally Posted by mhe-ann

oo nga po. isa pa, sabi nila, ang edukasyon ang isa sa mga pinaka-importante para sa tao, pero bakit ang mahal ng tuition fees? books? computer lab fees? waahh!

look... china spent alot of money for education, they even sent chinese people outside china to study... and look at them now... the US is now fearing that china will replace them in the throne of world supremacy...

before chinese people migrate to the philippines to look for luck (watch mano po 1) ...henry sy was one one of em... but now filipinos migrate to china to look for it... one part of our downlfall is our education, it is a fact we are one of the most talented in the world... but it seemed that we haven't learned how to propagate it...this is the reason why we badly need good education here. it also sad to learn it is only a sub-goal in GMA's ten point agenda

[renell]

Originally Posted by boybaha

Let me compare.
US K 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
RP K P 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1st 2nd 3rd 4th

Same number of years right? Or was my RP school different?

i don't think all pinoys have Kindergartern and Prep...

[renell]

Originally Posted by Dvorak

not all schools before have 7th grade here in RP.. only the exclusive ones have that..

every school should have at least two more years, imo in high school, so that it can be optional for those who want it, and can afford it.

[amras]

actually I've watched one episode in the Probe Team and they said that around the 40's or 30's (can't exactly remember) there are 7 years of elementary education but then they scrapped one year out of that prior to the inclusion of two more years in high school (siguro gustong ipattern sa US na may Junior at Senior High). Sadly, these plans didn't push through that's why we were left with only 10 yrs of pre-University education.

[kiretoce]

Originally Posted by amras

actually I've watched one episode in the Probe Team and they said that around the 40's or 30's (can't exactly remember) there are 7 years of elementary education but then they scrapped one year out of that prior to the inclusion of two more years in high school (siguro gustong ipattern sa US na may Junior at Senior High). Sadly, these plans didn't push through that's why we were left with only 10 yrs of pre-University education.

That's true, there was a 7th grade level in elementary schools in the Philippines before. Both my parents went through 7th grade, but soon after that they took it out of the curriculum.

Although the Philippines has only 10 grades/years of schooling before college, one thing I've noticed is that Pinoys spend more time in school than students here in US. I remember being in grade six and classes started at 7:00am and ended at 5:00pm, a total of 10 hours (counting the one-hour lunch break). I guess that makes up for the two years that are missing, and high school seniors graduate at age 15 or 16.

In my freshmen year at college here in the US, I was one of the youngest because I had just turned 16 years old, while the rest of the freshmen class was either 18 or 19.

Also, Canada does indeed have grade 13. And here in the US, grades 1-5 are elementary school grades, grades 6-8 are middle (junior high) school grades, and grades 9-12 are high school.

[pau_p1]

actually in my opinion.. more years of education is not required... Filipinos are studying enough number of years to gear them up to belong to the workforce.... what I think is needed is, improvement of curriculum, of infrastructure, more teachers, and better facilities....

because if those things are not upgraded... whether our students study for 20 years... it would still be the same... we just prolonged the years... and added big costs to our government and to the populace...

[mhe-ann]

yes, we don't have to add additional years. It's better if we will just improve the quality of education. I would say that having strict teachers, instructors, professors are much better than having a kind one. hehehe. Why? In my case, I used to study very hard when I was in HS, because all of my teachers were very strict. Mapipilitan kang mag-aral. but when I went into college, my Instructors were not strict...nakakatamad. walang challenge.

[amras]

though I agree that facilities and infrastructures can cure this deteriorating education system that we have, I still think that these solutions are not enough. if we have to compete, we need to have more and do more. I graduated from a science high school, yet I still find myself at lost when I studied here in Singapore, as in parang wala akong natutunan nung high school. paano pa kaya yung mga nasa regular high school lang, where good "facilities and infrastructure" and competent teachers are lacking?

however, having more years in high school or elementary for that matter is a long term plan. the government should focus first in upgrading the current system and providing for the needs of every public school in the country. we should utilize what we already have, improve them and use them to inspire the young ones to learn. after all, bilib ako sa galing ng Pinoy. diba, kahit na sobrang bulok na ng mga gamit sa school, nakakagawa pa rin tayo ng mga competent and wordclass graduates. what more kung sobrang ganda na ng mga facilities natin...

[Francis20]

talaga lang Amras? walang sinabi ang natutunan mo nung high school sa college ng Sg?
ako man. i also came from a science high school. where we have 13 subjects every academic year and our lessons are that of college. pero wala lang yun.
and when i went to college, i thought i already know everything in math, chem and physics. well, what i learned for 2 years in chemistry, they taught that for 2 sems in college. what ive learned in Physics and Math are only the basics. but since we had a relatively good training back in HS, nakapag sabayan naman ako sa mga galing ng UP highschool, at Phy Sci. hehe...basta masipag at mautak ka lang. pero importante rin yung perseverance and determination. note, that not all talented people suceed. it should go along with hardwork.

[amras]

that's exactly the reason kung bakit ako bilib sa pinoy. hardwork and determination...

[Francis20]

saka flexible. can be trained pretty easier than our Asian neighbors.