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Old May 5th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #801
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Rough just wondering if you know why The Trump is different from other Century projects in that they are using Hollowblock and Cement walls here to separate one unit from another unit while the rest of the Century projects still use gypsum board to separate one unit from another? Just curious why The Trump is different. Thanks.
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Sorry man, beats me either. I'll try to see if that info is confirmed though.

Thanks bro. No prob. If not too much trouble, just fill us in on the details you get from Century when you're able to. Cheers
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Old May 6th, 2012, 05:56 AM   #802
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Thanks bro. No prob. If not too much trouble, just fill us in on the details you get from Century when you're able to. Cheers
Sure buddy. Actually the info CPI gives to marketing is very limited. I get my facts straight from colleagues who are engineers and architects as well
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Old May 9th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #803
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Hi, maybe to clarify some things that i have been reading hear. The material planned on separating the units are concrete while the material that will be used in separating the areas WITHIN the units will be insulated dry-wall.
kung totoo ito, isang malaking sampal ito sa mga nagtatanggol sa paggamit ng gypsum to separate units ng CPI... may nalalaman pa silang mas effective daw sa earthquake or pang cityland daw ang taste ng mga nagpeprefer sa concrete na wall... tapos, yung pinaka-mahal na project pala ng CPI ehh concrete wall pala ang gagamitin... BOOM! in your face!
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Old May 9th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #804
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Thanks for your post/reply. Is this confirmed? If The Trump will indeed actually use concrete blocks and cement to separate one unit from another unit, it only goes to show Century can choose to build a building this tall using concrete partitions between units instead of the usual gypsum board they use in their other projects, after all we're not talking about super talls here like NY's Twin Towers or Chicago's Sears Tower for example. Wonder what made Century make this change as I'm sure this hit Century's bottomline? Whatever it is I'm just glad they did if such is indeed the case. This is a first for Century and definitely a step in the right direction. As I've said before it's OK to have gypsum board used in walls that separate areas/rooms within the unit itself but why on earth would you want to settle for gypsum board on common walls that's actually separating one unit from another unit? Really curious to know why The Trump is different from other Century projects. Maybe you can fill us in. Thanks.

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Hi, maybe to clarify some things that i have been reading hear. The material planned on separating the units are concrete while the material that will be used in separating the areas WITHIN the units will be insulated dry-wall.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #805
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Thanks for your post/reply. Is this confirmed? If The Trump will indeed actually use concrete blocks and cement to separate one unit from another unit, it only goes to show Century can choose to build a building this tall using concrete partitions between units instead of the usual gypsum board they use in their other projects, after all we're not talking about super talls here like NY's Twin Towers or Chicago's Sears Tower for example. Wonder what made Century make this change as I'm sure this hit Century's bottomline? Whatever it is I'm just glad they did if such is indeed the case. This is a first for Century and definitely a step in the right direction. As I've said before it's OK to have gypsum board used in walls that separate areas/rooms within the unit itself but why on earth would you want to settle for gypsum board on common walls that's actually separating one unit from another unit? Really curious to know why The Trump is different from other Century projects. Maybe you can fill us in. Thanks.
My calculated guess is that Trump is somehow within the high end category, basing on the ratio of parking slots against number of units. I just couldn't tell if CPI will now adopt CHB walls separating units and/or common area on all their proposed and on-going projects, or limited only to highend projects like Trump.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 01:00 PM   #806
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Personaly I prefer gypsum partitions for high rises, provided it was used correctly with proper insulation. It make the building more lighter = less dead load. This is the reason why most of the supertalls abroad use dry wall partitions so it more earthquake resistant.
If reducing dead load is a major consideration in CPI's buildings, they should use vinyl tiles instead of the much heavier ceramic or granite tiles. they can then brag that their buildings are the safest of them all...
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #807
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OMG.
We're on page 41 for comments on a project that is STILL a hole in the ground.

Trump puts his pants on one leg at a time. He's quite a salesman judged from the enthusiasm on this project. Quite possible we're witnessing the apex of condo development in Manila. When is turnover? This decade? You sure about that?

I certainly hope the economy can support all those rentals coming on the market. Oh yes, and the OFW and the Japanese/Chinese/Hong Kong domestic workers will be cashing in their stock market gains to make the balloon payment.

Hope it all works out, put I'm a pessimist.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #808
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If reducing dead load is a major consideration in CPI's buildings, they should use vinyl tiles instead of the much heavier ceramic or granite tiles. they can then brag that their buildings are the safest of them all...
Isn't linoleum lighter than vinyl?
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:39 PM   #809
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kung totoo ito, isang malaking sampal ito sa mga nagtatanggol sa paggamit ng gypsum to separate units ng CPI... may nalalaman pa silang mas effective daw sa earthquake or pang cityland daw ang taste ng mga nagpeprefer sa concrete na wall... tapos, yung pinaka-mahal na project pala ng CPI ehh concrete wall pala ang gagamitin... BOOM! in your face!
totoo naman mas safe sa earthquake ang gypsum over hollow blocks (dahil puedeng mabiyak ang hollow block at mahulog sa iyo yung mga piraso) pero di naman safe ang gypsum kung magbarilan ang kapit bahay habang nagpapahinga ka sa unit mo.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 07:53 AM   #810
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My calculated guess is that Trump is somehow within the high end category, basing on the ratio of parking slots against number of units. I just couldn't tell if CPI will now adopt CHB walls separating units and/or common area on all their proposed and on-going projects, or limited only to highend projects like Trump.
Yup baka nga. Wonder if it's actually a Trump corporation stipulation that walls separating one unit from another be in CHB instead of the cheaper Gypsum Board Century uses in all their other projects. Just that this surely hits Century's bottomline so they will not just do this unless really forced which is why if indeed true, then this Trump project can really be considered high end in the true sense of the word while projects like Knightsbridge, Grammercy, Acqua Livingstone etc are really just mid-level projects with high end pricing only.
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Old May 14th, 2012, 10:47 AM   #811
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Century Properties Q1 profit surges 310%
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Posted at 05/14/2012 3:59 PM | Updated as of 05/14/2012 3:59 PM

MANILA, Philippines - As its residential properties continued to sell like hotcakes, real estate developer Century Properties saw its net income surge 310% to P453.5 million for the first three months of 2012 versus P110.5 million during the same period last year.

Total revenues jumped 121% to P2.48 billion in the January to March period from P1.12 billion in the same period in 2011.


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Old May 14th, 2012, 07:52 PM   #812
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Century Properties Q1 profit surges 310%
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Posted at 05/14/2012 3:59 PM | Updated as of 05/14/2012 3:59 PM

MANILA, Philippines - As its residential properties continued to sell like hotcakes, real estate developer Century Properties saw its net income surge 310% to P453.5 million for the first three months of 2012 versus P110.5 million during the same period last year.

Total revenues jumped 121% to P2.48 billion in the January to March period from P1.12 billion in the same period in 2011.


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Old May 15th, 2012, 02:53 AM   #813
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i think the buyers are after the brand, considering that the market of the condos nowadays are varied with many brand conscious individuals. particularly those neo rich generation who have earned their first millions at a relatively young age. the future is changing.
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i think the buyers are after the brand, considering that the market of the condos nowadays are varied with many brand conscious individuals. particularly those neo rich generation who have earned their first millions at a relatively young age. the future is changing.
Of course it's the brand

Also as foreigners it's not easy to find decent condos in Makati.....no-idea which is best/worse. SO simply buy into the brandname hoping for quality.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #815
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This project is selling because of the Branding. Just the branding.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 03:36 PM   #816
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This project is selling because of the Branding. Just the branding.


Thats a foolish comment....of course people like the branding so take a look at whats on offer in the unit....

The units look very good....

Game over...

ALL of century city projects look good in fact....if I had cash in my pocket now id buy in trump too.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 05:11 PM   #817
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My take on this is that people are buying because they know CPI will be "forced" to make good of this project, having attached the Trump brand on it.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #818
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Thats a foolish comment....of course people like the branding so take a look at whats on offer in the unit....

The units look very good....

Game over...

ALL of century city projects look good in fact....if I had cash in my pocket now id buy in trump too.
Indeed most of Century Properties projects are amazing.. I recently purchased one at Aqcua man how I wish I had more cash on the table for Trump
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Old May 15th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #819
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My take on this is that people are buying because they know CPI will be "forced" to make good of this project, having attached the Trump brand on it.
Kind of....same why I bought Milano....the branding is there--the units look excellent and unrivalled (for their size) and it just looks like a great place to live in or rent and also a great investment.

HOWEVER I bought knightsbridge after 1 meeting and 1 viewing of the model unit -- simply because I can see the POTENTIAL of having diversified living space in Makati + for me the site is perfect and iocated between rockwell and CBD....

Not sure I would want to live directly in the CBD in the CBD + Rockwell is quite boring....so location is perfect for me.



I'd be pretty keen to buy a Grammercy unit + a trump unit if i had the cash too.
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Indeed most of Century Properties projects are amazing.. I recently purchased one at Aqcua man how I wish I had more cash on the table for Trump
Looks good, though I'm not a fan of Missoni style so wouldnt choose that particular tower....

I'm waiting to see also what happens with the access road...
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