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Old November 18th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #421
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Yes. My boss did a test once. (For those of you who are not aware of this: I am a European express delivery driver in a van - UK-Europe-UK)

There were two different jobs to Barcelona from the UK. So he sent one pallet in a van for door-to-door delivery, and he sent one pallet on a plane as airfreight. The pallet in the van made it to Barcelona well before the pallet on the plane did...

yes, I agree.
I remember once, when I was driver, 10-12 years ago, for a weel-known express delivery company (you know it Road_UK), a customer decided to deliver two helicopter spare parts in urgency to Oslo, Norway.
From Bayonne, France, near the spanish border.
With two drivers, so without breaks, the van arrived a few hours before the plane (with regular lines of course)!!
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Old November 18th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #422
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In Portugal, in IP2, construction of new nodes has been canceled, as well as the A26 highway between Sines and Beja.

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Old November 19th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #423
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¿Are there any plans to restart construction once there's enough cash or is it going to stay like that forever? We have a lot of U/C motorways in Spain where no works have taken place for years, but they are supposed to restart when there's money avalible again.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 02:00 AM   #424
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At least for now, there are no concrete plans for the continuation of these works, as well as the construction of the tunnel Marão, in the A4 motorway, where the works were also stopped. It would be the longest tunnel in Portugal, with 5665 m.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 09:21 AM   #425
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Tehran-Chalus Freeway sections 2 and 3 seem to be cancelled because of lack of money and because the ministry gave too much power to the contractor that they can't control them. And the main focus is on sections 1 and 4. The freeway is 120 Km long and is under construction for 15 years now.
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Old January 24th, 2013, 09:01 PM   #426
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Where I live in Ohio there were some uncompleted freeways that didn't get built until the early part of the 21st century. In Mansfield, OH US 30 was expanded as a freeway to I-75 and bypasses a lot of small towns and stops you would have made if the road had not been built.

Another example, I-490 in Cleveland was supposed to be I-290 going along the current route of 490 to University Circle but opposition shut that down. However, there has been talk of extending 490 along it's current route.

In my home of Kent, there was initially a plan to build a 4-lane loop AROUND Kent but that had a lot of opposition from land owners and ultimately was shut down. To this day, there is part of OH 261 in Kent as it heads towards' its terminus at OH 59 that were built four-lanes before the project was stopped.

Great to read about all these unfinished highways! Wow.

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Old January 24th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #427
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Old January 25th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #428
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yes, I agree.
I remember once, when I was driver, 10-12 years ago, for a weel-known express delivery company (you know it Road_UK), a customer decided to deliver two helicopter spare parts in urgency to Oslo, Norway.
From Bayonne, France, near the spanish border.
With two drivers, so without breaks, the van arrived a few hours before the plane (with regular lines of course)!!
I don't know what it's like where you live but in Sweden (and Norway) there
are regulations about work hours.

You have have at least 11 hours of rest within 24 hours, if you compensate later on you get an exception down to 9 hours.

Resting in your vehicle does not count.

Depending on the size of the part, wouldn't it be easier to hire a guy wiith a small propeller plane to deliver that part ?
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Old January 25th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #429
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I don't know what it's like where you live but in Sweden (and Norway) there
are regulations about work hours.

You have have at least 11 hours of rest within 24 hours, if you compensate later on you get an exception down to 9 hours.

Resting in your vehicle does not count.

Depending on the size of the part, wouldn't it be easier to hire a guy wiith a small propeller plane to deliver that part ?
I read that those European regulations affect only trucks and buses but no vans.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #430
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I read that those European regulations affect only trucks and buses but no vans.
And taxis...

Van drivers obviously don't get tired ? Strange

it's about time to include the van drivers too.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #431
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And taxis...

Van drivers obviously don't get tired ? Strange

it's about time to include the van drivers too.
So also car drivers. But it's impossible to put a tacograph in every vehicle.
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Old January 25th, 2013, 11:19 PM   #432
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More pictures from A26 in Portugal:

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Diário do Alentejo 31 de Agosto de 2012
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Old January 25th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #433
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So sad... You either build something or you don't build it. What is the point of cutting the land and putting these concrete columns and leaving it?
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Old January 25th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #434
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It´s very sad, imagine the people who had lost their properties, and now there is no motorway. There was a village with a bad access
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Old January 26th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #435
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Quite a big one for England in this day and age...

SEMMMS. We don't build roads anymore, they are branded 'environmental improvement routes' LOL! I think this is to stop people worrying so much!

The Manchester Outer Ring Road was proposed in the 1960s, but was cancelled over and over. But in the last few months its been brought back! I'm not normally glad about things like this, but this new road will help a lot!

It was going to be full motorway scale but is now doing to be 2+2 dual carriage way which I guess is better than nothing!

Unfortunately it won't be good for solving congestion, as it's underengineered in design which tends to be the case with a lot of transport projects.

Yes it may be a dual carriageway, but instead of grade separation I wouldn't be surprised if the junctions are roundabouts and signal controlled junctions which will restrict the capacity of the route. Then of course when the road opens and gets congested due to these pathetic junctions, the ecos will play the more roads generates more congestion card. But the main problem is that the underengineered route has designed congestion in from the outset due to poor junction design. Due to limited funding consultants paid to do the transport modelling would be told by politicians to make the results fit the design rather than vice versa which would have led to a more appropriate scheme like the original A6(M) proposal.
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We have some cancelled freeways in Barcelona metro. In the 1960s, a plan was drawn to build three tunnels connecting Barcelona with Sant Cugat and Rubí at the other side of a mountain range. Some works started at the beginning of the 70s: Via Augusta was extended to Túnel de Vallvidrera portal, and Túnel de la Rovira started to be dug. First one would follow this route, second one this, and third one this (this one, Túnel del Tibidabo, didn't made it to start construction). All three motorways should begin at the (then) city's only ringroad, Ronda General Mitre. In the mid-70s, the government ran out of money and works in Túnel de Vallvidrera and Túnel de la Rovira were stopped. 15 years later they resumed, but the extension of Túnel de la Rovira until Cerdanyola via Túnel d'Horta was cancelled and Túnel de la Rovira only serves local traffic. What was going to be the motorway connecting it with the (then only planned) second ringroad of the city (now Ronda de Dalt) is now a boulevard with space in the median that is being turned to a big water sump. Works in Túnel de Vallvidrera eventually finished, and it is now a busy access to the city.
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Old January 27th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #437
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The planned highway network for Halifax, which thankfully wasn't fully completed. They began construction, building one intersection but thankfully public pressure killed the project. Unfortunately that one intersection did massive damage as it was built in the centre of the city, destroying a huge chunk of the historic district and killing a good portion of the streetscape.

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This is all that remains today, and there are plans to get rid of this single portion and restore the old street grid in its place.

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Old January 27th, 2013, 03:00 AM   #438
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New Orleans
Vieux Carré Riverfront Expressway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vieux_C...ont_Expressway

The Second Battle of New Orleans:
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/neworleans.cfm

Model & Plans:
http://lunaweb.giza.tulane.edu/luna/...&search=Search





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Old January 28th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #439
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It's a shame people's oppinions can have a so big influence; after all, for example that New Orleans motorway which seems to have been planned in a perfect place for a motorway was to be a huge advantage for a lot of people, and was brought down by a little amount of loud-speaking persons, who I am sure were not transportation experts. This has always been a great disadvantage of democracy; "because I can see it from my terrace" should never be a reason.

This is what Helsinki motorway network was planned to look like; it was blocked by leftists and ultimately the Oil crisis in the 1970's.

Blue: built
Green: planned/approved
Pink: planned, more distant future
Red: cancelled
Black: demolished

The main east-west axis was also ment to be the route of the Central Tunnel, which was very idiotically blocked by SDP, Greens and Left a couple of years ago.


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Old January 28th, 2013, 07:51 PM   #440
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