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Old September 14th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #1
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JERUSALEM | Public Transport

About a month ago, the first tramline in Jerusalem started operating. Still in a teststage, but people can ride on it for free during about 2 months.
It's mainly on seperate tracks from the other traffic, it should run every 5 minutes. Going from the South-West part of the city to North-East, via the central busstation, and going next to the old city.
In the North East it passes some industrial area and some Palestinian neighborhoods, where East-Jerusalem buslines opperate.
All signs and announcements are in Hebrew, Arabic(local Syrian dialect) and English. They are riding always with 2 wagons combined.

Jerusalem has about 700.000 inhabitants. But compared to a lot of other cities the amount of carowners per 1000 is far less.
The string bridge you see is over a complicated intersection, by the famous Spanish architect Calatrava.



















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Old September 14th, 2011, 12:08 PM   #2
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Fantastic! Extremely modern and in good taste!! Not bad for a 10,000 year old city! Please share maps, future plans, ridership estimates, technical details, etc.
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Old September 15th, 2011, 01:55 AM   #3
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Any YouTube videos? And who made the cars?
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Old September 15th, 2011, 02:33 AM   #4
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Looks very nice! Are any special security measures taken for this tram?
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Old September 15th, 2011, 03:14 AM   #5
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Looks really nice
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Old September 15th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #6
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beautiful!!! congratulations!!
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Old September 15th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #7
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Just to joke, are they running from right to left? I agree they are beautiful and Calatrava's works are always impressive. Love the bricks between the tracks.
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Old September 16th, 2011, 05:18 PM   #8
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The cars are build by Alstom Citadis.
Type: Citadis 302 - five carbody sections, 100 % low floor

I don't see any security stuff or issues on the tram itself. But maybe I'm just not aware.

There are vague plans about extensional lines, but I didn't see any maps yet.
Some other ''lines'' are just run by a lot of 18,75 meter long busses at the moment. They have also busstops that are a bit higher, in order to get easier into the bus.

On Youtubes there are some clips about for example
Jerusalem Light Rail, Calatrava Bridge

I will find some maps and info later. It's soon Sabbath. The tram also doesn't run on Sabbath.
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Old September 17th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #9
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This system looks very sleek, modern and at the same time fits perfectly into the city old and new.

I read some articles in jewish news sources and am a bit shocked though how many challenges and problems this whole project faced. There were so many delays, and the whole thing was costing much more than projected. But finally they made it. I hope it will be a big success.

This system has to meet challenges barely any other light rail system has to face I guess. I mean in which other city could such a light rail line be the target of such intense political conflicts? It has been even accused to be a tool of occupation and oppression. I mean we are talking about a friggin light rail which is open for everyone. But one simply has to accept the fact that anything in Jerusalem is getting drawn into politics probably at least when it crosses the green line.

The funniest counter argument against the light rail was that Jerusalem is to small for for it - with considerably more inhabitants than half a million. I wonder how cities of half that size manage to have trams or light rail lines then...
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Old September 17th, 2011, 04:35 AM   #10
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Long overdue IMO, but better late that never. Besides, when is Tel Aviv going to get a metro or light rail?
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #11
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Here a googlemap of the line. you can find it in: www . jlembusmap . com
In English too.
The Red dot is the main busstation (going west from there to Tel Aviv).
The Yellow dot is the Temple-square where the Dome of the Rock is. The blue outline I made are the walls of the Old City (as the Ottomans walled it).
Between Red and Yellow dot, is the main old (shopping) street, that used to go in the old days allready to the coast = Jaffo.
The idea to have at both ends feeder lines: meaning busses that ''feed'' passengers for the tram.
On the map you see that in the west it's more green, on the eastside the desert starts, going down slowly to the dead sea.

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Old September 22nd, 2011, 09:43 PM   #12
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that is a nice system
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 11:30 PM   #13
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I never uploades a pic here but ill give it a try:

this is supposed to be the future Light rail map. Line 1 is now operating. Line 5 is operating as a BRT.
If you ask me this will never look like this. 1 MAYBE 2 LRT lines, the rest will be BRT.
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Old September 24th, 2011, 12:42 AM   #14
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Been just riding it this week and it's awesome! Except headway is way too long.

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Great tram. I hope it doesn't become a terrorist bombing target in the future when tension rises.

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Old September 24th, 2011, 01:24 PM   #16
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Great tram. I hope it doesn't become a terrorist bombing in the future when tension rises.
Everything can become a terrorist target, buses or highways as well as trams. Some opponents of public transport use this argument excessively against light rail and co. Israel can't allow to make itself a complete prisoner of the conflict.

That said, I share your hopes that no one gets that mad idea of bombing such a tram.
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Old September 24th, 2011, 01:41 PM   #17
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A lot of the employees and passengers on the tram are Arabs. Everything is also trilingual. However, that won't stop any extremists of blowing themselves up. Still I hope nothing will ever happen.
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Old September 25th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #18
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Here some more pics from Friday, the first day after summer that it was realy cloudy...

This is the stop Shimon HaTzadik at: Sheik Jarra Palestinian neighborhood on the left, and Maalot Daphna Jewish neighborhood on the right. The 2nd station north of the old city.

Same place, trams have to cross the street here.

Here a panoramashot of the stop at Damascusgate, this is in front of the Old City. Well I photoshopped 2 pictures, the lady in the middle is herself twice.
You see the dome of the rock, and on the right 1 part of the tunnel that goes underneat the tram around the old city, while the tram will turn abouve it to the west.


Two pictures at the Shuk, Jerusalem market in the centre of Yaffo-street



2 pictures of the stop Yaffo-west, first one towards central busstation, second one looking back towards the shuk.



And 1 of the Calatrava-bridge close to the busstation. Goes over a roadcrossing with 2 times 3 lanes, turning into a street towards the right.


Maybe later more beautiful pics...
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Old September 27th, 2011, 02:58 AM   #19
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Considering all the controversery that took place over the time the railway was built, what has the public reaction been now that it's had a chance to overcome the newness of the line? Do many still call it a mistake, or has it started to become a part of the landscape that people would not want to be without?
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Old September 27th, 2011, 06:41 PM   #20
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A lot of the employees and passengers on the tram are Arabs. Everything is also trilingual. However, that won't stop any extremists of blowing themselves up. Still I hope nothing will ever happen.
This is not an excuse for the violation of international laws .
So this project is illegal it doesn't respect

1-Fourth Geneva Convention
2-United Nations Security Council Resolution 476
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