Turkey-Israel Booming Trade Obscured in Erdogan Political Rants

[The Texas Ranger]

Originally Posted by Turknology

sorry, no Turk alive here from mongolia

You sure?

Then how about this, you all convert to Orthodox Christianity, change the name of the country to lets say Troy and change your language from Turkish to some European one?

[TSpor]

Christianity is a wrong religion and Europe is falling down from the wrong belief

Either Jesus is not God,nor God son. God cant die and God never let a prophet die brutally with pain.

And the belief that Jesus take the sins of all humans is wrong.Then the test on world would make no sense.

[TSpor]

And in islamic belief the man who was murdered brutally on the cross was not Jesus but a roman soldier.

The true story is this :

The roman soldiers wanted to kill the true Jesus and hunted him into a cave.
A single roman soldier went into the cave to kill Jesus.Now God transformed the face of the roman soldier into the face of Jesus.

So everyone believed that he is Jesus.The true Jesus got back into the sky and will come back during the time of MAHDI to brake the cross and kill the pig.

After Jesus the christians changed the religion into wrong directions.There are over 1000 bible version.This religion is changed totally.This is why God decided to sent the last religion and the last prophet of the whole universe till end of the world.

And the jewish religion was also changed into wrong directions.Then Jesus came.This religion also went into fail.

In islamic belief all prophets are our prophets : Adam,Noah,Moses,Jesus,Muhammed.They all were prophets to send the right message to the humans.But the humans changed every message of the prophets and the books.So another religion came and another prophet.

But God is saying that Muhammed is the LAST ONE and ADAM the first.

[TSpor]

And in islamic belief GOD damned all jews for their arrogance against him.This is why God spread them all over the world as punishment.The jew were hunted in every part of the world.

The jews never trust God.After Moses went to the top of the mountain for the 10 rules the jews back gonna wild and they made a bull of gold to believe on it.

So the christians and jews will go into : "CEHENNEM" !!! and atheists

[Kalamai]

Originally Posted by TSpor

So the christians and jews will go into : "CEHENNEM" !!! and atheists

I think in Arabic it sounds something like "jahannam".
Anyway, the Jews are already there.

Valley of Hinom:

[Kappa21]

Originally Posted by TSpor

You should be grateful when Spain was kicking all the jews and only the Ottoman Empire accepted them in Europe.No single county in Europe accepted the jew and still does not accept them (see France)

Originally Posted by TSpor

And in islamic belief the man who was murdered brutally on the cross was not Jesus but a roman soldier.

The true story is this :

The roman soldiers wanted to kill the true Jesus and hunted him into a cave.
A single roman soldier went into the cave to kill Jesus.Now God transformed the face of the roman soldier into the face of Jesus.

So everyone believed that he is Jesus.The true Jesus got back into the sky and will come back during the time of MAHDI to brake the cross and kill the pig.

After Jesus the christians changed the religion into wrong directions.There are over 1000 bible version.This religion is changed totally.This is why God decided to sent the last religion and the last prophet of the whole universe till end of the world.

And the jewish religion was also changed into wrong directions.Then Jesus came.This religion also went into fail.

In islamic belief all prophets are our prophets : Adam,Noah,Moses,Jesus,Muhammed.They all were prophets to send the right message to the humans.But the humans changed every message of the prophets and the books.So another religion came and another prophet.

But God is saying that Muhammed is the LAST ONE and ADAM the first.

So what you saying?
It seems the Islam is in the wrong direction with its people and its interactions with other cultures/religions........

[TSpor]

Islam is never on wrong direction but the people are.This is the difference between Islamic Golden Age and the Age of Despots/Monarchs.But after the Arab Spring the islamic world and ummah will be on better ways.

The Quran of today is the same like the Quran of 1400 years ago.Every word,phrase and even point is the same.There arent 1000 versions of the Quran.

Interchange of cultures.The rise of Europe began with the contact of the advanced islamic civilization (Crusades in Jerusalem and Moorish people in Spain).

And Islam is in favor of interchanges with other cultures to make Dawah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawah

In Islamic theology, the purpose of Da‘wah is to invite people, both Muslims and non-Muslims, to understand the worship of Allah as expressed in the Qur'ān and the sunnah of the prophet, as well as to inform them about Muhammed.

[TSpor]

And the biggest Dawah maker in Germany is a german

Pierre Vogel alias Abu Hamza

[Turknology]

well this thread just went down the drain...

[Kappa21]

Originally Posted by TSpor

Islam is never on wrong direction but the people are.This is the difference between Islamic Golden Age and the Age of Despots/Monarchs.But after the Arab Spring the islamic world and ummah will be on better ways.

Islam seems to contradict itself...it says peace, wants war. It talks about glory, yet turns into poverty....it says loyalty and then gives submission...

Arab spring or not there is 2 problems with the muslim world and that is the problem they have within themselves and also with others. Jews-Christians-Buddhist-Hindus etc....
You dont see Jews and Hindus duking it out nor Buddhist and Christians.....

[quote]The Quran of today is the same like the Quran of 1400 years ago.Every word,phrase and even point is the same.There arent 1000 versions of the Quran.

Interchange of cultures.The rise of Europe began with the contact of the advanced islamic civilization (Crusades in Jerusalem and Moorish people in Spain).[/qupte]

The Quran never changed as the torah and the bible.......but people always made their own assumption and phrases and misinterpereted the holy books to thinking this is the right way to live because its the ultra way...

And Islam is in favor of interchanges with other cultures to make Dawah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawah

In Islamic theology, the purpose of Da‘wah is to invite people, both Muslims and non-Muslims, to understand the worship of Allah as expressed in the Qur'ān and the sunnah of the prophet, as well as to inform them about Muhammed.

Sounds more like making non-muslims become muslims......
If that happens in the Muslim world (muslim becomes christian) he will be stoned to death.

And how comes this is coming from a Turk....
The Turk and Islam is like 2 positive magnets..... so far apart....drinking and conquering others, genocide, occupation and right wing/atheist nationalism....

If you muslims wanted to be true, you wouldnt create borders and divisions between yourselves.... sunny/shia, countries, wealthy and heirchies....
Look how people in the gulf treat muslims who come from Pakistan....as nothing but servants.....

[The Texas Ranger]

Originally Posted by Turknology

well this thread just went down the drain...

Yeah, and we were so close to brokering an permanent peace treaty between our peoples...

[Kappa21]

Originally Posted by The Texas Ranger

Yeah, and we were so close to brokering an permanent peace treaty between our peoples...

you seem like another Leora #2 for the forum and an agent for closing down threads...including your own...

[The Texas Ranger]

Originally Posted by Kappa21

you seem like another Leora #2 for the forum and an agent for closing down threads...including your own...

If I wanted this thread to be closed, I would post something like this:



Ups...

[KWT]

Are you sure about that? I'd think you'd get an opposite reaction.

[Kappa21]

I think you just want to close your career in this forum for good......

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