2022 Winter Olympics Games Bids

[Boriska]

Nice would be nice

[Rohatynets]

Ukrainian possible bid starts to get its shape. I am actually surprised at how seriously it is being taken at such an early stage.

This video sketches out the initial plan :






National Agency for Investment Projects is responsible for handling the bidding process. "Olympic Hope – 2022" is prioritized as one of 4 national projects. “KLENKHART & PARTNER CONSULTING” has just won a tender by the agency to conduct a feasibility study.

[Lord David]

Originally Posted by flierfy

Brilliant idea to hold winter Olympics in July, in the midst of off-season.

The problem is the Northern Hemisphere (where much of the interest lies) wouldn't be so kindly to a Southern Hemisphere Winter Olympics as it would essentially be held in their Summer. It would be an alienating event as such.

But of course we won't know for sure unless a Southern Hemisphere city actually does bid.

It's been claimed that Qatar wants to move it's World Cup to January to avoid the extreme weather mid year. This might seem as a good opportunity for a Southern Hemisphere city to make a bid, as being a compromise as not to have 2 major events so soon after each other.

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by Lord David

What are you talking about? Not to hold a games lately? Because of course Munich hosted the 1972 Summer Olympics, with Berlin hosting the 1936 Summer Olympics and Garmish-Partenkirchen (part of Munich's bid) hosting the 1936 Winter Olympics.

1972 was over 38 years ago and by 2022 it will have been 50 years since Germany has hosted an Olympics. Given that Germany is Europe's (outside of Russia) largest and most important state that is too long.

I'm 34 and after next year I will be able to remember a games held in Spain, France, Italy, and the UK all of which has hosted a games since 1990. It is simply Germanys time to hold an Olympics very soon.

[swifty78]

yup Id love to see a German Olympics within the next 2 decades

[Леонид]

Jaca, Spain - Helsinki, Finland - Santiago, Chile those would be my favorite pics!!

[Voltico]

Santiago de Chile could easily do it...it's a 6,5 million city, world class, safe, excellent public transport and infrastructure and 4 beautiful ski resorts right next to the city...





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[Lord David]

No they can't because of the seasons! Despite the lack of Winter Sports culture (and winning medals at past Olympics), they've only been known to have hosted one major skiing event in the past.

The seasons is the real problem and unless that's put aside, it's unlikely any Southern Hemisphere city can ever host anytime soon.

[Voltico]

Originally Posted by Lord David

No they can't because of the seasons! Despite the lack of Winter Sports culture (and winning medals at past Olympics), they've only been known to have hosted one major skiing event in the past.

The seasons is the real problem and unless that's put aside, it's unlikely any Southern Hemisphere city can ever host anytime soon.

That has to be changed...it goes against "the olympic spirit", it is discriminative...why a world event should be held just in the northern hemisphere ?? what is the big deal about waiting 5 months? would a bid from a country like Chile, Argentina or New Zeland be disqualified just because it happens that we are in the south? why?....guess where the teams from the north train from May to September (?)

On the other hand, I don't think the issue of a country not having much results in a certain sport should influence much a bid, if a country is prepared and willing to make the effort to host an event like a winter Olympics, if it has the infrastructure and all its people behind it, that should be the most important thing when choosing the right candidate in my opinion...

[Lord David]

I know it's discrimination, but given that much of the support, interest and the fact that you're essentially "forcing" the Northern Hemisphere to make a big shift and act like it's "winter" during their summer, when it really isn't (assuming of course a Southern Hemisphere nation wins).

The training issue is not a factor, since most teams can easily miss a couple of weeks for said event and would train on site anyways. It's the whole convincing the IOC and world of the shift, coupled by the general lack of infrastructure for the most likely bidding cities, which would hinder them in any bid attempt, let alone win on the first try.

Unlike say the Summer Olympics, where nowadays you just have to wait till September or October at the latest for hot weather cities and nations hosting, should they do, as opposed to the standard June/July/August, time frame.

The results shouldn't matter since Sarajevo (coming from back then Yugoslavia) managed to host in 1984 without having won a Winter Olympics medal prior to that event.

[Voltico]

Originally Posted by Lord David

I know it's discrimination, but given that much of the support, interest and the fact that you're essentially "forcing" the Northern Hemisphere to make a big shift and act like it's "winter" during their summer, when it really isn't (assuming of course a Southern Hemisphere nation wins).

The training issue is not a factor, since most teams can easily miss a couple of weeks for said event and would train on site anyways. It's the whole convincing the IOC and world of the shift, coupled by the general lack of infrastructure for the most likely bidding cities, which would hinder them in any bid attempt, let alone win on the first try.

Unlike say the Summer Olympics, where nowadays you just have to wait till September or October at the latest for hot weather cities and nations hosting, should they do, as opposed to the standard June/July/August, time frame.

The results shouldn't matter since Sarajevo (coming from back then Yugoslavia) managed to host in 1984 without having won a Winter Olympics medal prior to that event.

Why should the northern hemisphere "act" like it is winter in summer? it doesn't make sense what you are saying...we watch the winter Olympics in the summer, it is just a sport event...most people just sit on the tv and watch it...what is the big deal?

What I meant is that teams from the north train every winter, or summer for you, in the south...and if they're happy to train here, I don't see why they wouldn't be happy to compete here..

Infrastructure is not an issue, if a city gets to host an Olympics is because its got a superb infrastructure...in the case of Santiago, the general infrastructure can easily be at the same level than any city that might host it in the north...or even better, because it's a metropolis...

For me there's not excuse, everyone should be allowed to compete on equal terms...and if you don't get to host it, it should be because you're not good enough and you have to work more to improve your city, not because of your geographic location..

[Lord David]

We watch it because we are the minority. The Northern Hemisphere would have a hard time adjusting to the fact that they're watching the Winter Olympics in their Summer. We may have an easy time adapting to it, but they most likely will not, not at the first time of course.

It has nothing to do with the idea of the athletes not having a problem competing, it's the general folk in the Northern Hemisphere, mostly the TV audience.

[swifty78]

For 2022 I'm very certain they'll go back to Europe again... love to see Germany, Switzerland, Sweden or somewhere like Poland or Ukraine, dunno bout their capabilties tho?

[KiwiRob]

Originally Posted by Lord David

We watch it because we are the minority. The Northern Hemisphere would have a hard time adjusting to the fact that they're watching the Winter Olympics in their Summer. We may have an easy time adapting to it, but they most likely will not, not at the first time of course.

It has nothing to do with the idea of the athletes not having a problem competing, it's the general folk in the Northern Hemisphere, mostly the TV audience.

Northern Hemisphere folks didn't appear to have a problem watching the Sydney summer games in winter, so I very much doubt they will have a problem adjusting to watching a winter games in summer. Sport is sport, if people are interested in it they will watch it even if it's out of season.

[Lord David]

What are you talking about? Technically it was their Autumn, just after their Summer. The September date was necessary due to avoid the potential rain and coldness of a Summer Olympics held in our winter.

[koolio]

I don't think the Sydney Olympics were a problem. Northern hemisphere olympics are held during late summer anyways so a delay of a few weeks isn't a big deal.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

We watch it because we are the minority. The Northern Hemisphere would have a hard time adjusting to the fact that they're watching the Winter Olympics in their Summer. We may have an easy time adapting to it, but they most likely will not, not at the first time of course.

It has nothing to do with the idea of the athletes not having a problem competing, it's the general folk in the Northern Hemisphere, mostly the TV audience.

For once I'll agree and back up Lord David. The big problem are the sponsors of the USA, Europe and Japan.

Summer BBQ, surfboards and swimming pool products ARE NOT a good complement to skiing, curling and biathlon. The networks make good money with all the winter-related stuff (the Tylenols, cold medicines, ski manufacturers, scarves, flannel booties, winter movies, etc., etc.,) that pay for the Winter Games telecasts. The ads complement the content very well. You are NOT going to get those with a southern Winter Games in September or October when fall stuff is being promoted.

Remember, there are like 70 WOG-active countries in the northern hemisphere with about 4 billion people whose calendars are geared to a February-WOG. There are like what? 6 or 7 southern hemisphere countries with maybe a collective population of about 300 million that are somewhat active in the WOGs. 4 billion consumers v. 300 million? Where do you think advertisers would put their money on?

[Lord David]

Originally Posted by koolio

I don't think the Sydney Olympics were a problem. Northern hemisphere olympics are held during late summer anyways so a delay of a few weeks isn't a big deal.

Depends on the city hosting, July is the norm. June is the earliest. Late August is usually the latest.

[rsol2000]

Santiago!

[netinhogga]

Santiago is very beautiful!