2022 Winter Olympics Games Bids

[adeaide]

[-Corey-]

Id love to see the games in Santiago

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Northern Hemisphere folks didn't appear to have a problem watching the Sydney summer games in winter, so I very much doubt they will have a problem adjusting to watching a winter games in summer. Sport is sport, if people are interested in it they will watch it even if it's out of season.

It's not actually a matter of people in the NH watching Winter events during their summer, its more to do with athlete scheduling.

I think over 90% of Winter Olympians reside in the Northern Hemisphere (and then, a majority of that from either North America or Europe). Having a Winter Olympics staged in any month other than February (its much tighter than the June to October margin the Summer Olympics allow) is going to be a logistical nightmare. Also money plays a big role. The USA is a big contributor to the finding of the IOC through television sponsorship (and the Winter Olympics has in recent years drawn a larger audience than their Summer counterparts in the US) and the NFL season isn't going to work around the Winter Olympics.

Sadly I doubt SH cities that a VERY capable of hosting the Winter Olympics (Christchurch and Santiago the most so) are not going to host due to this reason, unless the IOC makes some big decisions, which they won't.

[nomarandlee]

The NFL season is from Sep-Jan so that doesn't matter. Also the athletes do train more in the northern winter but many of these (northern) winter athletes train year round and some even train and compete in the Southern Hemisphere in the northern summer months so I don't think the adjustments would be too great. They could easily train and compete into June or July without much ill effects.

In fact the biggest issue is the scheduling for northern TV audiences. I just really think there is good reason to believe that northerners don't care to tune into skiing or skating when the sun and water are calling them outside. In the summer northerners generally want to act as if winter doesn't exist and I think most any ratings of winter sports coverage in the past during the summer months would almost without exception bare that out.

I wish it wasn't so because I think it would be really great if places like Chile or New Zealand were pulled into the Olympic fold.

[KiwiRob]

Basically all the reasons put forward for not having a southern hemisphere games are bollocks, they are all easily resolved, it can be done and it should be done.

[Lost Cosmonaut]

Originally Posted by adeaide

Go Santiago!

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Basically all the reasons put forward for not having a southern hemisphere games are bollocks, they are all easily resolved, it can be done and it should be done.

It's extremely unlikely it'll ever happen. There are some pretty good reasons for it over in Gamesbids.com

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by KiwiRob

Basically all the reasons put forward for not having a southern hemisphere games are bollocks, they are all easily resolved, it can be done and it should be done.

Then why hasn't it been done? Even the one time a World Figure Skating Championships set for Brisbane (in I forget now which year)...fell apart at the last minute; and got moved to Nice, France. That would've been the FIRST time a major Winter sport would've had its annual crown jewel event in a southern hemisphere setting, yet what happened? If an indoor event like that couldn't even happen in its usual March slot, what more the whole ball of wax?

Nope. You can decree it all you like, but it's not going to happen for the simple reason, it's season-dependent both in the actual locale and on the opposite hemisphere which pays for that extravaganza.

[Lord David]

Interesting, it was due to Australia's failure to provide adequate broadcast services (i.e televise the event) rather than proposed venue, the Brisbane Entertainment Centre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Wo..._Championships

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Interesting, it was due to Australia's failure to provide adequate broadcast services (i.e televise the event) rather than proposed venue, the Brisbane Entertainment Centre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Wo..._Championships

Yeah, I do recall it was something to do with the TV contract--which means that there wasn't enough local interest to warrant the expense. But whichever it was...that perhaps was one opportunity to show the north that Winter sport televised on a global basis from a southern setting could be viable for the northern markets. But it fell apart which says a lot ...and the ISU I am sure isn't quite that eager to attempt another fiasco like that.

[PAO13]

OSLO easily for the win. As IOC member Heiberg said earlier this year; IOC would welcome a bid from Norway and Oslo with open arms. Nobody else can create the same atmosphere around the Winter Olympics, as nobody else loves skis and winter as much as Norwegians do.

Example.

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by PAO13

OSLO easily for the win. As IOC member Heiberg said earlier this year; IOC would welcome a bid from Norway and Oslo with open arms. Nobody else can create the same atmosphere around the Winter Olympics, as nobody else loves skis and winter as much as Norwegians do.

Example.

meh. Norway just had them in 1994. And previously in 1952. Lets go somewhere new.

[PAO13]

^Thankfully the IOC don't have the same thoughts. "Somewhere new" is just other words for empty venues and low interests in the sports.

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by PAO13

^Thankfully the IOC don't have the same thoughts. "Somewhere new" is just other words for empty venues and low interests in the sports.

lol - care to explain this logic further?

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by -Corey-

Id love to see the games in Santiago

I'd love to see it there as well. Finland's my other choice.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Finland's my other choice.

Finland does not have the 800m drop mountain. Their last bid of Tampere failed.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by PAO13

OSLO easily for the win. As IOC member Heiberg said earlier this year; IOC would welcome a bid from Norway and Oslo with open arms. Nobody else can create the same atmosphere around the Winter Olympics, as nobody else loves skis and winter as much as Norwegians do.

That's Heiberg. Rogge would've "welcomed bids from the USA and South Africa" for 2020. But that doesn't mean it's going to happen nor did it happen.

Rogge also "welcomed bids" from Lake Placid for the 2016 Winter YOGs. No dice. Lake Placid and the USOC didn't care to indulge him.

U're over-reading those "welcomed" bids. They say that whenever they feel there's going to be a shortage of bids. Doesn't mean the representatives from Malawi or Paraguay or Malaysia really care where the WOGs land. The Winter bidding is more of a crap shoot because 1/3rd of the IOC membership comes from non-Winter countries so therefore that is the larger, more unpredictable bloc of votes that can determine the next host.

And Norway, for its small size and inflated influence, is done for its share of Winter hosting...and that's why the 2016 Winter YOGs will probably get awarded to Lillehammer to satisfy this 'Scandinavian' thing for awhile--plus nobody else wanted them. I think that's what Heiberg meant: the IOC welcomed an "Oslo" bid for Winter YOG 2016 because no one else was coming around.

[andydie]

2022 most likey will be European Wintergames again. 2010 was America, 2014 Russia and 2018 Asia, so its Europe´s turn again in 2022. I really hope Munich will bid again as they had a really good presentation and concept for their games.

[Lord David]

Originally Posted by Knitemplar

Finland does not have the 800m drop mountain. Their last bid of Tampere failed.

You mean Helsinki, 2006.

If Finland does end up building it's own mountain of 800 meter drop, then perhaps it could host on it's own, rather than relying on Lillehammer, Norway, which was the site of the longer downhill and technical skiing events and the sliding track.

[Lord David]

Originally Posted by Alphaville

meh. Norway just had them in 1994. And previously in 1952. Lets go somewhere new.

If were talking Nordic, it should be Sweden naturally, if only Finland had the capable slopes, but with "Terra-forming" then perhaps we could see a Finnish proposal in the next few coming Olympics.