2022 Winter Olympics Games Bids

[swifty78]

Im hoping Munich will give it another try again

[Lord David]

Of course they will. Since Berlin is not bidding for 2020 (nor any other German city for that matter), it leaves open to another Munich bid for 2022.

Repeat bidders might be getting stale now, but Munich does have some things going for it.

The bid will be mostly the same as the 2018 bid, therefore over 3/4 of the work is done. All you need is a different look for the Applicant book and Candidate books. As such, the bid will be heavily marketed at the fact that this is celebrating 50 years since the 1972 Summer Olympics, held in Munich.

Any new developments in the city from now and then should be taken into account.

Should they fail, then it's Berlin 2024. An interesting concept is should say Salzburg decide to bid for 2022 after their break in 2018. An interesting competition of bids where Salzburg might not be able to secure the Sliding venue in Germany, over Munich. An agreement may be made to both bids, but perhaps the Austrians might need alternative plans for a sliding track.

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Lord David

^ but perhaps the Austrians might need alternative plans for a sliding track.

Move the border during those 2 weeks.

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by Lord David

Should they fail, then it's Berlin 2024. An interesting concept is should say Salzburg decide to bid for 2022 after their break in 2018. An interesting competition of bids where Salzburg might not be able to secure the Sliding venue in Germany, over Munich. An agreement may be made to both bids, but perhaps the Austrians might need alternative plans for a sliding track.

I have strong feeling the Olympics will never go back to Berlin. The city is so different to Munich in that it has a wild, anti-establishment streak that I don't think suits the Olympics. I think a Winter Olympics in Munich is better suited to a modern Germany.

Also Munich has the wealth, Berlin is poor (but sexy..)

[Lord David]

I think Berlin is capable of hosting (the only city for another Summer Olympics really).

A lot of new venues have been built since the 2000 bid which would assist them greatly, such as the main arena, minor arena and velodrome.

Berlin Olympic Stadium was upgraded for the 2006 World Cup and would be presented as an existing venue that requires no improvements.

A major football specific rectangular stadium in the city could serve as a key Olympic project (if not done prior).

The creation of one sole mega airport will be more suitable than 2000's 3 airport plan.

A lot has happened since 2000, I think Berlin can easily pull it off should they bid. The key problem is marketing, no point marketing for reunification if the Olympics won't lie on a anniversary year, they'd have to play the sustainability and sports card.

[Knitemplar]

Germany should go for Berlin. Forget Munich...it was a BLOODY Olympics there. Best forgotten!!

[swifty78]

What about Frankfurt, Stuttgart or Hamburg?

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by Knitemplar

Germany should go for Berlin. Forget Munich...it was a BLOODY Olympics there. Best forgotten!!

Uh, and Berlins wasn't representative of something far more devastating?

Another Berlin Olympics would have to be very careful about how it celebrated itself. Probably one of the only Olympic hosts that couldn't "look back and smile" and previous Games held there (like Los Angeles, London, Paris, etc..)

I think Munich hosting again is far more compelling. It would be the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Games, its wealthier than Berlin, and going back to there may be good for Munich to allow the city another go - the events of 1972 was not the fault of the Germans. 1936 was.

Also, Berlin is too cool for the Olympics.

[Alphaville]

Originally Posted by swifty78

What about Frankfurt, Stuttgart or Hamburg?

Stuttgart sucks. I spent a day there. It's the Albury-Wodonga of Germany.

[swifty78]

LOL

[Skyland]

Neither Austria nor Germany should plan for Olympics right now. First we should reduce our enormous public deficits on the federal, state and community level. Work first to play!

In Europe countries like Poland (Warsaw Summer or Zakopane Winter Olympics), Switzerland (Geneva Winter Olympics), Sweden (Stockholm Summer Olympics or elsewhere Winter Olympics), Denmark (Copenhagen Summer Olympics) or Turkey (Istanbul Summer Olympics, Konya Winter Olympics) should instead host the Olympics. They deserve it more.

Outside Europe, countries like India, Indonesia, Morocco or Chile (Winter Olympics) should host the Olympics. We really have other problems right now.

[Lord David]

Vienna! Vienna should bid again for an upcoming Olympics http://lorddavid04.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1nq29m

[Knitemplar]

Originally Posted by Alphaville

Uh, and Berlins wasn't representative of something far more devastating?

But uhmmm, wasn't the Nazi movement born in the beer halls of Munich??

It would be the first city to host both a Summer and Winter Games, its wealthier than Berlin,

Uhmmm...not so. The Japanese city of Karuizawa is TECHNICALLY the first city in history to host both Summer (Equestrian venue, 1964) and Winter (Curling, 1998) Olympic events!! (OK, it was NOT the anchor city...but still it was part of the overall Olympic Games at the time.) So Munich should NOT be disingenuous about it.

[PAO13]

Everyone wants the Olympic Games in Oslo in 2022


ULLEVALL STADIUM (VG): The name "Tromsø" was not mentioned once, when the seven Olympic sports federations in the evening told that they have decided to support the Oslo Olympic bid in 2022.

Skiing, skating, hockey, snowboarding, curling, ice hockey and luge runs, all in the capital as host city for a possible Norwegian Olympic event.

The skiing federation wants to have skiing exercises the same place as in 1994, ie in Hafjell and Kvitfjell, north of Lillehammer.

- The political signs so far are positive, says sports president Børre Rognlien.

He is pleased that there now are no city battle about how a winter Olympics in Norway will be. Last it was appropriate to add a Norwegian Olympic application, it was a bitter battle of location.

Sports president received tonight questions from Tom A. Schanche - supporter of Norefjell - if Hafjell / Kvitfjell for the alpine events are too far away from Oslo.

- This is something that must be clarified with the IOC, said Rognlien, which among other things, suggests the possibility of a high-speed train from Oslo to Lillehammer.

Norway expects that cities such as Munich, Zion, Salzburg, St. Moritz and perhaps Sweden could be potential competitors for the Olympics in 2022.

President of the IOC (International Olympic Committee), Jacques Rogge has said he wants an Olympic application from Norway. Everything indicates that the Olympics in 2022 will be added to Europe.

Norway, near Lillehammer, the Youth Olympics in 2016. The year prior to deciding on a city that will host the 2022 Olympics. Youth Games can contribute positively to Norway.

Cross country skiing, ski jumping and Nordic combined are thought held on the same plant as last winter championship was the World, that Holmenkollen and the Midtstua.

- We must expect to build new facilities for a possible Olympic Games in Norway, says the ski president Sverre Seeberg.

Skating President Vibecke Sørensen points out that they already have plans for a skating hall at Valle Hovin, combined with Vålerenga's planned football stadium.

All sports associations presidents could tonight tell that they have support in their own organization for the choice of Oslo: biathlon President Tore Bøygard, hockey president Ole-Jacob Libæk, snowboarding President Dagfrid Forberg, curling President Bent Ramsfjell, luge president Harald Rolfsen and then ski president Seeberg and skate President Sorensen.

Next Winter Olympics, in 2014, is in Russian Sochi. Then, Pyeongchang in South Korea will be host city in 2018.

Source: vg.no, translated with google translate.

[Ervin2]

Fuck off PAO, nobody cares.

[Knitemplar]

Oslo's not going to happen. That's why Winter YOG 2016 was given to Lillehammer. SO there will be no immediate Oslo WOG anytime soon.

[Kernowboy71]

Originally Posted by Knitemplar

Oslo's not going to happen. That's why Winter YOG 2016 was given to Lillehammer. SO there will be no immediate Oslo WOG anytime soon.

You are WRONG

The WYOG 2016 was NOT given to Lillehammer - the fact is that Lillehammer was the only bidder for the games after both Lake Placid and Sofia dropped out to focus on 2020.

If Lillehammer had not agreed to be the host then the games would have been cancelled.

Oslo has an extremely high chance of being in the mix and ultimate hosts.

1) The games have a strong chance of being held in 'traditional' Europe.
2) The games have not been held in Scandinavia since 1994, they were last held in the Alps in 2006.
3) In the USOC go after the 2024 Summer Games they won't back a 2022 American bid
4) The Swiss have issues with public expenditure which require referendums, which is why Bern dropped out of the 2010 race.

Munich if they bid for 2022 will be a very tough contender. If Oslo move their skiing events from Lillehammer back to Norefjell, they could well be unbeatable, as everything else is within the city limits.

If you consider the Munich bid - the bobsliegh track at Scbonau am Konigsee is 152km distant and Garmish is 90km away

For Oslo Lillehammer is 180km away, though they could build a new track on the old snowbanked course they used in 1952, which is on the Metro and within city limits, whilst Norefjell is 135km away and has a 1010km drop.

With better international links now, Oslo would be a safe bet, a guaranteed successful bid after two more riskier games and with very little need for additional investment.

Politically everyone loves the Norwegians so they will also get votes as the first inoffensive option.

[Kernowboy71]

Originally Posted by PAO13

Source: vg.no, translated with google translate.

Excellent post

But it should be clarified that EVERYONE means all of the appropriate Norwegian sports bodies have agreed that Oslo be the candidate.

[Jim856796]

Why must Oslo have the skiing events outside of their immediate area, in Lillehammer?

[Knitemplar]

Oh, kernowboy...also here from GamesBids. Oslo, go slow...u're NOT going anywhere.