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Old September 29th, 2011, 05:57 PM   #1
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PARIS - Palais Omnisport Bercy (15,524 -> 17,500)

Location: Paris Ile de France
Name: "BERCY" (renovation+Expansion)
Purpose: Indoor sports+Concerts
Capacity:~17000 Expansion -> 21000 creation of 52 VIP lounges
works in 2 phasis between 2014-2015
cost : 110 million euros

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The arena before renovation:





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Old September 29th, 2011, 07:24 PM   #2
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Old September 29th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #3
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city of Paris

but perhaps there 'll a deal for naming rights
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Old September 30th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #4
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IS 21k the capacity for concerts?
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no the capacity with all seater is 21000 for a basket configuration

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À l’intérieur, ce Bercy new age verrait sa capacité, passer de 17.000 places à 21.000, "critère déterminant pour décrocher, par exemple, les championnats d’Europe de basket de 2015, auxquels nous postulons", explique Philippe Ventadour. En outre, 3.000 mètres carrés de salons permettront aussi d’ouvrir Bercy aux séminaires. Morceau de bravoure du projet : la coursive, qui dotera l’enceinte de 52 loges VIP, certaines avec vue sur la salle.
he says they want to increase to 21k for the organization basket euro 2015

we can assume that for a concert some seats are not usabled
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Wikipedia gives the current capacity for basketball matches as 14,000. That can't be right, can it?
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it is between 14000 and 17000. All depends on the choice of organisers.

But frankly when atp tour series or basket matches are played there i often heard the number of 15000
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Old September 30th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #8
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Strange that the VIP boxes are placed on the same concourse as the vomitories to the bottom tier. Thought no arena was designed like that since 1990.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 06:27 PM   #9
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strangely you' re right


a comparison with O2 arena:



Bercy:





i think it's because bercy is old and you have to destroy a much more important part of tribunes to have a actual traditional design
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Old September 30th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #10
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You might be right. However, if I see correctly, Bercy today has one single tier, right?
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that's it




PS: i was there last year for BEP concert:

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The renovation of the Bercy Multisports Palace consists of the dividing of its existing single tier of seating into two tiers of seating, and the addition of 52 VIP Boxes (all of the VIP boxes are going to be place on one concourse as depicted in the renderings).
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Jim, do you know why the vip boxes are placed on the same levels as the vomitories?
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IMO they cannot add a suit tier + 2nd tier, because the 1st tier is quite steep.
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Wouldn't it be possible to build the vomitories below the vip boxes? see the yellow lines in the pic above.
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i think this too but it probably cost much because you have to create new space for this concourses & vomitories
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Because people using vip suites need to 'vomit' too lol! More seriously There will be only one intermediate and exchange level therefore as main distributor it is also bound to welcome access and also toilets and other facilities! It's mostly a height problem as Bercy will grow bigger internally but not by much externally! The designers and engineers are going to play with the stands slopes much more than in brand new arenas! Due to the fact that the basic frame work will remain unchanged designers have probably had to make some concessions therefore vomitories will be located in between skyboxes! Bringing the happy few and the populace together! That's very Paris!
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I think the term "vomitories" refers to entrances to a venue's stands.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 02:39 PM   #19
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From what I can see on the pics, the only external change made is to raise the roof. No additional width will be added. Thus it would be natural to place the boxes on a separate tier and let it have its own concourse (above the lower concourse).

If you place the boxes on the same concourse as the bottom tier you will make the concourse lower, but needing more width.
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There's actually plenty of width inside Bercy so far it hasn't been properly used! The new design will allow the arena to gain a 'little' in height but probably not enough to had a concourse specific to the skyboxes! However this image is a rendering that's what it is and I'm expecting more details as the project moves forward!
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