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Old October 21st, 2012, 10:53 PM   #61
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Tibbitt to Contwoyto Winter Road, NWT, Canada
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Junction with the paved road
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Beginning of the ice road on Tibbitt Lake
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Pothole in the ice
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Gordon Lake
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Old October 26th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #62
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Manitoba/Ontario winter road

Winter road leading to Tadoule First Nations, Northern Manitoba
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Frozen lake in Northern Ontario to Poplar Hill First Nation
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Caribou on the road
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Winter road heading in Muskrat Dam First Nation, Ontario
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Old October 26th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #63
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Interesting pics, Satyricon.
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Old October 27th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #64
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Need to balance off all those American ice roads! So here's smth European - video of ice road between Sviby (Vormsi / Ormsö island) and Rohuküla (mainland Estonia) in February 2012.

Video by Youtube user mardu123 ©.



Btw,if you look closely you can see around 0:38 that iceroad has been diverted to new path (most likely because of ice cracks)
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Old October 28th, 2012, 01:45 AM   #65
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Inuvik-Tuktoyaktuk ice road, Northwest Territories, Canada

Truck heading to Aklavik
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Left to Aklavik, straight ahead to Tuktoyaktuk
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On the Arctic Ocean (Beaufort Sea)
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Old December 5th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #66
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Tuktoyaktuk-Inuvik ice road, Northwest Territories, Canada

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Old December 6th, 2012, 06:51 AM   #67
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In case of problem, how fast the rescue to get there ?
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Old December 6th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #68
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Wonderful pics!
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Old January 29th, 2017, 08:39 PM   #69
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Mining out this old thread...


but pics from this forum have just been posted on a Polish infrastructure facebook page. Amazing shots - not only of the road, but also landscapes, normally only seen in some documentaries... (https://www.facebook.com/rynekinfras...41017165931093).


How thick is that ice, in order to carry a 40 ton truck safely?
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Old January 29th, 2017, 08:51 PM   #70
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Ice needs to be some 80 centimeters thick to allow trucks up to 80,000 lbs / 40 tons to use it safely. (source: Saskatchewan Winter Roads Handbook). Most loads are not 40 tons though, usually they are up to 34-36 tons.
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Old January 29th, 2017, 09:37 PM   #71
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Living in Canada and dealing a lot with primary sector, I sometimes run into ice-road issues

For example we have one customer in the northern territories, accessible only by ice-road (or plane) and we have some equipment there, that weighs about 2000 - 10 000 kg.

So now they need to send one of those machines back to us, in south Canada (Toronto) for repair, and return because of a failure. But you need to make sure to send back in the right "window" or else, ice melts and you can't make the trip anymore... its an interesting constraint to consider. But it is truly remarkable how inexpensive ice roads are to construct over long distances, they are truly the only way that a lot of our country is viable for anything (it's not very viable unless you find mountains of diamonds and gold. But... there are some mountains of diamonds and gold there.)

Of course, in Toronto all month the weather has been rather mild and I had green grass at home for weeks (until yesterday, we have now about 1 cm of snow and -2*C) "We the North"

As an aside point it is curious to consider how the development of Canada has followed navigation routes tightly. In the eastern half, Ontario and Quebec, the settlement and development is only within a short distance of the St Lawrence and Ottawa rivers (and Great Lakes shoreline), the rest of the land is complete wilderness, barren rocks and trees...
In the Prairies meanwhile, there are not much rivers, but everyone followed the railways. And BC, it's just what is on the coastline of Pacific... Only really a province like Alberta or maybe Nova Scotia has a "normal" development where people live in most of the area.
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Old January 29th, 2017, 09:46 PM   #72
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Climate change threatens the winter road system, especially in Manitoba and Northern Ontario, which aren't really that far north, sunlight is quite long at such latitudes in January. Combined with less cold, or warm spells, it makes the winter road system less reliable.

There have been calls to construct all-weather roads to northern communities. There are serious plans to develop all-weather roads on the east side of Lake Winnipeg, and from time to time a proposal to construct a road to Rankin Inlet (Nunavut) resurfaces.
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Old January 29th, 2017, 10:09 PM   #73
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it's been thrown about, when there is a short winter, but then, a long winter happens and we forget (e.g. 2013-2014 "polar vortex") I kind of question the economic issues there vs. all-weather road construction and the talk of it being a priority (surely, if the ice roads don't freeze anymore, we can build a road then... and aside, can you imagine the political issues and environmental assessments?)
Of course, I don't actually live in an area accessible only by winter road... if I just paid $10 for a mildly rotten tomato maybe I'd want a gravel road to my house too...

It is often promoted all-weather roads but the communities are generally Aboriginal reserves that are not economically viable (though! A all-weather road would improve standards of living, clearly)... it would be cheaper to build a new town closer to the road network than to build the road :: But those proposals are always strongly resisted.

However there are historical precedents from roughly 80 - 100 years ago in Ontario with building of "northern roads", one notable segment of one is now the terrifically congested 10-lane Hwy 400
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