American Demographics Thread

[desertpunk]

American Demographics Thread

Heres a place to post charts, maps, graphs and discussion about any demographic items of interest!


2000 population density by county.

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

switch the yellow/green for red and its the same as the election map lol

[desertpunk]

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan

switch the yellow/green for red and its the same as the election map lol

True!

[liebeaffe]

Does anyone have a map or statistic on internal migration since the economic downturn?

[mengmeng888168]

charts, maps, graphs and discussion about any demographic items of interest American is so big

[desertpunk]

2011 State Population Estimates are in:

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State ..............Population (July 2011) .....Rank  ....Population (April 2010)  

1. California  ...........37,691,912  .............1  .........37,253,956  

2. Texas  ................25,674,681  .............2  .........25,145,561

3. New York  .............19,465,197  .............3  .........19,378,104

4. Florida  ..............19,057,542  .............4  .........18,801,311

5. Illinois  .............12,869,257  .............5  .........12,830,632

6. Pennsylvania  .........12,742,886  .............6  .........12,702,379

7. Ohio  .................11,544,951  .............7  .........11,536,502

8. Michigan  ..............9,876,187  .............8  ..........9,883,635

9. Georgia  ...............9,815,210  .............9  ..........9,687,660

10. North Carolina  .......9,656,401  .............10  .........9,535,475

11. New Jersey  ...........8,821,155  .............11  .........8,791,894

12. Virginia  .............8,096,604  .............12  .........8,001,030

13. Washington  ...........6,830,038  .............13  .........6,724,540

14. Massachusetts  ........6,587,536  .............14  .........6,547,629

15. Indiana  ..............6,516,922  .............15  .........6,483,800

16. Arizona  ..............6,482,505  .............16  .........6,392,013

17. Tennessee  ............6,403,353  .............17  .........6,346,110

18. Missouri  .............6,010,688  .............18  .........5,988,927

19. Maryland  .............5,828,289  .............19  .........5,773,552

20. Wisconsin  ............5,711,767  .............20  .........5,686,986

21. Minnesota  ............5,344,861  .............21  .........5,303,925

22. Colorado  .............5,116,796  .............22  .........5,029,196

23. Alabama  ..............4,802,740  .............23  .........4,779,735

24. South Carolina  .......4,679,230  .............24  .........4,625,364

25. Louisiana  ............4,574,836  .............25  .........4,533,372

26. Kentucky  .............4,369,356  .............26  .........4,339,362

27. Oregon  ...............3,871,859  .............27  .........3,831,074

28. Oklahoma  .............3,791,508  .............28  .........3,751,354

29. Connecticut  ..........3,580,709  .............29  .........3,574,097

30. Iowa  .................3,062,309   ............30  ..........3,046,350 


More here: http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/d...tate-2011.html

[Manitopiaaa]

Awesome! Thanks DesertPunk!!! I'm still waiting for the new metropolitan designations to be released

I would also suggest the Census site for more comprehensive numbers: http://www.census.gov/popest/data/st...011/index.html

PS-Washington D.C. gained 16,000 last year!!! I don't think DC has had this kind of sustained growth since the FDR administration

[desertpunk]

Originally Posted by Manitopiaaa

Awesome! Thanks DesertPunk!!! I'm still waiting for the new metropolitan designations to be released

I would also suggest the Census site for more comprehensive numbers: http://www.census.gov/popest/data/st...011/index.html

PS-Washington D.C. gained 16,000 last year!!! I don't think DC has had this kind of sustained growth since the FDR administration

Yeah, DC at 617k is a major milestone as it's now larger than Baltimore, a situation that to my knowledge has never happened before. Once again, DC is a major city that's well on its way to recapturing its 1950 high of 802,000. The redevelopment there is crazy as old neighborhoods long ago written off for dead are being revitalized.

[desertpunk]

More maps:

[Manitopiaaa]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

Yeah, DC at 617k is a major milestone as it's now larger than Baltimore, a situation that to my knowledge has never happened before. Once again, DC is a major city that's well on its way to recapturing its 1950 high of 802,000. The redevelopment there is crazy as old neighborhoods long ago written off for dead are being revitalized.

I lived there for two months last summer and the growth is ridiculous. It's also the good kind of high-salary, high density growth. I also think Baltimore is the biggest city, if only by a thousand or so. We don't have the 2011 city figures but the 2010 census was 620,961 and I can't see it dropping 3,000 in a year.

PS-The Political Science major in me sees the state figures and the Hispanic maps as incredibly ominous for the Republican party. North Carolina and Georgia are gaining 100k+ a year and most of that growth is from Blacks and Hispanics. Virginia is seeing a huge minority jump in NoVa as well as more liberal whites moving into places like Arlington. Hispanics are moving into the Lancaster to Allentown corridor in Pennsylvania as the older white population dies off. Florida is slowly becoming more diverse outside of Miami-Dade. Even the growth in the Dakotas is surprising. Unlike black migrations out of the south which moved into urban, industrial centers, Hispanic migration is much more dispersed and seems to favor rural areas as much as urban areas (agricultural labor being the obvious reason). With the South continuing to see a Hispanic influx at the same time, I could see North Carolina and Virginia becoming more Democratic than Michigan, Maine and other whiter areas by the end of the decade.

[CalleOchoGringo]

I can see the whole country becoming more democratic quickly with the speed and efficiency that the republican party is turning off Hispanic voters via anti-immigration laws. If they want a future, they need to stop listening to ignorant whites who aren't having kids and start listening more to Hispanics who are... and soon.

[BorisMolotov]

I think that percent growth map is a bit misleading as some of those counties especially up north are going from zero hispanics to 10. (obviously a bit of an overstatement but its not many people)

[Manitopiaaa]

Originally Posted by CalleOchoGringo

I can see the whole country becoming more democratic quickly with the speed and efficiency that the republican party is turning off Hispanic voters via anti-immigration laws. If they want a future, they need to stop listening to ignorant whites who aren't having kids and start listening more to Hispanics who are... and soon.

Agree. I'm also a bit pessimistic that Republicans can successfully woo Hispanics though. Hispanics are more socially liberal than the average Republican voter (shocking I know) and they are much more populist minded than Republicans. And since they are poorer, the Republican agenda or dismantling welfare programs and implementing a fair tax is going to push them ever further back than just typical anti-Hispanic political rhetoric. Apparently, the Republican plan is to now nominate Conservative Hispanics like Marco Rubio or Susana Martinez to attract Hispanics. So far it has seen mixed results.

[desertpunk]

US CEnsus Bureau: Largest Manufacturing Metros In The US

America's manufacturing sector is clearly on the decline -- employment has dropped 30 percent during the past 20 years -- but it still packs an economic punch.

The nation's metropolitan and micropolitan areas contain 284,600 manufacturing firms. Their payrolls totaled $512 billion in 2009, the most recent year for which official figures are available.

Nineteen markets had manufacturing payrolls in excess of $5 billion as of 2009, topped by Los Angeles ($29.3 billion), Chicago ($21.1 billion) and New York ($18.7 billion).

The Los Angeles area also leads the nation in the number of manufacturing companies (18,600) and employees (575,700). Fifty-one markets have at least 1,000 firms involved in manufacturing, and 42 metros have more than 50,000 workers in the field.

The 873 markets, taken as a whole, contain 10.6 million manufacturing employees. The average worker earned $48,200 in 2009.

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

More maps:

Here's a glaring contrast: Latinos have been spreading ever outword from the big cities in ever larger number across Florida, Texas, California & other states with big Hispanic population.

By contrast, in NY State, the Hispanic percentages in the upstate areas outside of the downstate metropolitan area remain quite small, less than 10%

So what barriers have been erected in upstate NY, a long stagnant area that needs all the newcomers it can get, that have discouraged Latino settlement?

[desertpunk]

Originally Posted by bayviews

So what barriers have been erected in upstate NY, a long stagnant area that needs all the newcomers it can get, that have discouraged Latino settlement?

Many Mexican immigrants coming north get jobs in homebuilding and food service; industries that simply are not growing much in Upstate NY. Also chain migration plays a large role in their movements. If there are immigrants doing well in Upstate then they'll let family and friends at home in on it. For example, in the bustling Santa Fe NM restaurant scene, there are many Verracruzanos working in the kitchens. It probably began with just a few people from Verracruz who told everyone at home about the high wages paid in SF. No doubt people have made into Upstate communities but weren't happy enough, for whatever reason, to either stick it out or recommend it to people back home.

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

Many Mexican immigrants coming north get jobs in homebuilding and food service; industries that simply are not growing much in Upstate NY.

Actually, many Mexicans & Central Americans HAVE tried to beat a path to WNY thru agricultural labor, attracted by seasonal opportunities rather than weather. Indeed Latino immigrant labor has been key to the retention of many farms, nurseries and other agricultural and horticultural enterprises across western & upstate NY. An area that has lost much of its other traditional employment.

However, the huge Buffalo ICE/Homeland Security bureaucracy has been beefed way up to about 8 times the size it was before 9-11. And while Latinos had absolutely nothing at all to do with 9-11, almost half of those arrested by the Buffalo HS outfit are consistently Mexicans and Central Americans. Indeed the Buffalo ICE District has become a perennial leader along the northern border when it comes to profiling and arresting Mexican & Central Americans.

When you consider how FEW Latino immigrants are in WNY as compared with other Northern border states like Michigan, Minnesota, & Washington State, clearly there’s an obviously HUGE discrepancy in profiling practices. Just recently, this past year, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) also found and confirmed that the Buffalo Homeland Security outfit had been & was illegally conducting racial profiles of mostly Mexican & other Latino immigrants traveling thru upstate NY & hauling them off of trains & buses.

[desertpunk]

Originally Posted by bayviews

Actually, many Mexicans & Central Americans HAVE tried to beat a path to WNY thru agricultural labor, attracted by seasonal opportunities rather than weather. Indeed Latino immigrant labor has been key to the retention of many farms, nurseries and other agricultural and horticultural enterprises across western & upstate NY. An area that has lost much of its other traditional employment.

However, the huge Buffalo ICE/Homeland Security bureaucracy has been beefed way up to about 8 times the size it was before 9-11. And while Latinos had absolutely nothing at all to do with 9-11, almost half of those arrested by the Buffalo HS outfit are consistently Mexicans and Central Americans. Indeed the Buffalo ICE District has become a perennial leader along the northern border when it comes to profiling and arresting Mexican & Central Americans.

When you consider how FEW Latino immigrants are in WNY as compared with other Northern border states like Michigan, Minnesota, & Washington State, clearly there’s an obviously HUGE discrepancy in profiling practices. Just recently, this past year, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) also found and confirmed that the Buffalo Homeland Security outfit had been & was illegally conducting racial profiles of mostly Mexican & other Latino immigrants traveling thru upstate NY & hauling them off of trains & buses.

If racial and ethnic intolerance is involved, that will surely dampen immigration from Latin America but other states have shown remarkable intolerance yet their immigrant communities have only grown. Again, if the jobs pay well enough (agricultural fieldwork is less attractive than carpentry and landscaping jobs), immigrants will put up with enormous challenges to earn more money.

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by desertpunk

If racial and ethnic intolerance is involved, that will surely dampen immigration from Latin America but other states have shown remarkable intolerance yet their immigrant communities have only grown. Again, if the jobs pay well enough (agricultural fieldwork is less attractive than carpentry and landscaping jobs), immigrants will put up with enormous challenges to earn more money.

What you mean states like Arizona?

Yeah, Arizona’s been much in the news about its anti-immigrant policies over the past year. And yet consider about a decade ago what happened near Buffalo: A Mexican-born high school student from Phoenix was coming back from a field trip to Canada with her class. She was profiled & got yanked off the class bus by one of Buffalo ICE border guards at one of the river bridges.

She filed & won a suit in Phoenix against the Buffalo ICE practices. Had she filed her case in Buffalo, with some of the toughest & worst immigration judges, she’d probably have lost & have been deported back to Mexico.

I just think that NYC based media bashing states like Arizona that are right along the border with Mexico & with huge immigrant populations is hypocrisy. When some of the most anti-immigrant practices happen to be in areas like WNY that need every new immigrant they can get to stave off their declines.

[fredcalif]

Originally Posted by bayviews

What you mean states like Arizona?

Yeah, Arizona’s been much in the news about its anti-immigrant policies over the past year. And yet consider about a decade ago what happened near Buffalo: A Mexican-born high school student from Phoenix was coming back from a field trip to Canada with her class. She was profiled & got yanked off the class bus by one of Buffalo ICE border guards at one of the river bridges.

She filed & won a suit in Phoenix against the Buffalo ICE practices. Had she filed her case in Buffalo, with some of the toughest & worst immigration judges, she’d probably have lost & have been deported back to Mexico.

I just think that NYC based media bashing states like Arizona that are right along the border with Mexico & with huge immigrant populations is hypocrisy. When some of the most anti-immigrant practices happen to be in areas like WNY that need every new immigrant they can get to stave off their declines.

I totally agree with you. I live in Arizona and people are really over reacting about our state here.

I am Hispanic too, and I have never been descriminated, we all get along here.
I guess in NY and other places could be much worse