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Old September 6th, 2009, 12:46 PM   #181
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Bidding for the construction of New Dipolog Airport Passenger terminal worth P13M. Prebid Conference on August 13, 2009.


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Ariane, ito naba ung sinasabi mo na airport terminal expansion?
P13M lang kasi ang budget.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 12:50 PM   #182
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Effective Sep. 1, 2009
PalExpress Cebu-Dipolog and vice versa flight is now 4x from 3x a week with schedule of Wed-Fri-Sat-Sun using Bombardier Q400 from Q300.
Source: http://www.philippineairlines.com/Im...cm61-12634.pdf
Sign na cguro ito na malapit na silang magdaily flights soon...
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Old September 6th, 2009, 12:53 PM   #183
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Diba sabi ni gov sa isang news in Zamboanga Times na magiging 4x ang flights to Manila soon in this airport. Could it be because Z2 and 2P will serve the airport or 5J second flight for Manila?
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Old September 6th, 2009, 12:57 PM   #184
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I've heard from a Dipolognon na halos puno daw parati ang passenger volume PAL at 5J sa airport for Manila flights. Will this mean na malapit na ang 2nd flight of 5J to this city?
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Old September 6th, 2009, 03:01 PM   #185
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Loads are not always indicative of yields. Just because a plane is full does not mean that a service is profitable, and therefore justifies a second flight. If ever, I'd expect capacity upgrades from A319s to A320s first before the addition of second flights.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 03:10 PM   #186
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Loads are not always indicative of yields. Just because a plane is full does not mean that a service is profitable, and therefore justifies a second flight. If ever, I'd expect capacity upgrades from A319s to A320s first before the addition of second flights.
Ariane posted here that 5J and PR often change equipments to this airport from A319 to A320 despite of the A319 they assigned in this route.

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Old September 6th, 2009, 03:18 PM   #187
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Bakit walang refuelling station ng mga planes ang Dipolog airport?
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Old September 6th, 2009, 04:58 PM   #188
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Ariane posted here that 5J and PR often change equipments to this airport from A319 to A320 despite of the A319 they assigned in this route.
Yes, I know that. But despite the changing of planes, the primary aircraft still deployed for MNL-DPL is an A319. What I'm banking on is the upgrade of MNL-DPL to a route primarily operated by A320s than A319s.

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Bakit walang refuelling station ng mga planes ang Dipolog airport?
Fuel farms are not only expensive, but they are also meant for airports which cannot be reached by planes without refueling (hence why General Santos has one, since the 737s previously deployed there could not return to Manila without stopping in Cebu to refuel), or for major airports like MNL, CEB, DVO and CRK. That's why the new airports in Iloilo and Bacolod also don't have fuel farms, since those airports can be reached from Manila without refueling (and in fact in Iloilo it was quite controversial since there were provisions to add a fuel farm, but the DOTC decided to remove it in order to save P300 million from the cost of construction). The same goes for Dipolog and virtually all the smaller domestic airports, although it's probably because there were no provisions for them when the airports were first built.
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Old September 7th, 2009, 07:18 AM   #189
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Ariane, ito naba ung sinasabi mo na airport terminal expansion?
P13M lang kasi ang budget.
I think, the P13M budget for the terminal is good enough for renovation only. Besides, malaki na ang terminal ng dipolog airport. It can accommodate more than 300 passengers at the same time. Face lift lang kailangan talaga para mukhang fresh at brand new ang terminal. it might also mean that there will be an extension of the old terminal

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Old September 7th, 2009, 07:25 AM   #190
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Diba sabi ni gov sa isang news in Zamboanga Times na magiging 4x ang flights to Manila soon in this airport. Could it be because Z2 and 2P will serve the airport or 5J second flight for Manila?
I think what the governor meant was that Dipolog airport will soon have 4 flights a day. The additional flights will come from 2 flights for Cebu (via PAL Express and 5J) and 2 flights for Manila (via PAL and 5J) per day.
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Old September 7th, 2009, 07:27 AM   #191
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Old September 7th, 2009, 07:35 AM   #192
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Where is the nearest oil/fuel depot for Dipolog city? There are several fuel depot in Jimenez, Misamis Occidental which is about 30 mins. drive from Ozamiz. i think, This is where the 2 or 3 phoenix fuel tankers get their load for the airbus planes at Ozamiz airport
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Old September 7th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #193
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Where is the nearest oil/fuel depot for Dipolog city? There are several fuel depot in Jimenez, Misamis Occidental which is about 30 mins. drive from Ozamiz. i think, This is where the 2 or 3 phoenix fuel tankers get their load for the airbus planes at Ozamiz airport
Mero sa Dipolog Brgy Galas of SEAOIL den my oil depot din ang SIOM.
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Bakit sa Ozamiz sky may Phoenix refuelling station for Airbus?
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Old September 7th, 2009, 02:56 PM   #195
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I think, the P13M budget for the terminal is good enough for renovation only. Besides, malaki na ang terminal ng dipolog airport. It can accommodate more than 300 passengers at the same time. Face lift lang kailangan talaga para mukhang fresh at brand new ang terminal. it might also mean that there will be an extension of the old terminal
Sabi kasi ni ariane na P500M ang total budget for the terminal.
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Old September 7th, 2009, 03:28 PM   #196
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Kailangan ng iexpand ang passenger terminal dahil maliit ang lobby at ang check-in counter. Hindi ko rin gusto ang Tanduay na image sa airport dahil nagmumukha itong cheap.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 03:11 PM   #197
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Why not the need for aircraft refueling?

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Bakit walang refuelling station ng mga planes ang Dipolog airport?
I have answered the same question in the Bacolod airport thread I think a year ago but for those who are not aware of it here it goes;

Normally, an Airbus 319 or 320 carries enough fuel for the trip plus 10% reserves on domestic flights because of economic considerations, that is aviation fuel in Manila cost less than in the provinces. As the theory goes, the nearer you are at the gas refinery, the cheaper your fuel bills. Its the same reason why world airliners are envious of Emirates, Qatar and Gulf air.

By the way refinery and depot is not the same thing. What you see in Bataan or Batangas is refinery while what there is in Pandacan Manila or Jimenez in Misamis Occidental is a depot.

To give you an idea, the price difference on aviation fuel is 1-2 pesos more in Zamboanga or General Santos as compared to Manila. Its like the price difference on premium gasoline. For those who are not so familiar with aviation gas, its like kerosene you use at home during blackouts.

Anyway, going back, as the aircraft carries more fuel into its belly it becomes heavier,and when it carries full passengers, cargo and fuel it needs a certain runway length to land or take-off.

Aeronautical Engineers call it MTOW or Maximum Take-off Weight and that is 77,000 kg while its landing weight is pegged at 66,000 kg. Imagine from fuel alone it already carries 29,600 liters that is equivalent to 35,000 kgs at maximum.

A loaded A319/320 has no problems with landing or take-off in Manila as its ARFL (Airplane reference field length) is 2,180 meters. It can safely fly General Santos or Zamboanga as well anytime at MTOW.

In reality however, that is not always the case and return flight would always be lighter in domestic operations.

So why the need for fuel truck like what Ozamiz have?

Ozamiz airport have 1,745 meters ASL as compared to Dipolog at 2,000. With everything else equal, airliners can always carry more like passengers or cargo on longer runways. The problem with Ozamiz is the weight restriction that it doesn't have much runway as Dipolog airport does to carry more fuel for return flight because it adds more weight to the plane. Although technically it can, aviation safety regulations says no you cant. Its like following the same argument for A330 in Bacolod airport.

If the A319 is loaded with passengers and cargo, it has to cut its weight on fuel to be safely within the landing weight limits at Ozamiz. It will be the same argument for Surigao airport. A 319 can land there but with restrictions. That is why its called a "weight restricted flight". Cebu Pacific 319 is more heavier than PAL because it carries more passenger at 150 as compared to 130 pax. With a restricted fuel load they can't fly back home without refueling. Dipolog airport doesn't have that problem. They can even accommodate A320 how much more the A319.

The next big question would probably be why some flights at Ozamiz doesn't need refueling?

Well, its because it has less cargo or passengers or both on board from Manila that the airlines have luxury of carrying more fuel for a return flight. And to think, its cheaper that way.


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Ariane, ito naba ung sinasabi mo na airport terminal expansion?
P13M lang kasi ang budget.
Nope. Blueleo answered it well. That would just cover the renovation of the old terminal building and for them to put the carousel in place. Also they will be relocating the CAAP office upstairs besides the PAL ticketing office to make that possible before the admin office is constructed.

As I was saying before, the airport utilizes less than 40% of its design capacity. Actually, utilization rate hovers around 15-20% way below the projection as compared to Tagbilaran which has grown exponentially at more than 200% percent. Now If I'm the government where would I put the money?
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Old September 8th, 2009, 04:16 PM   #198
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Thank u very much ariane for the answer. That was well explained and understood. :-)
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Old September 9th, 2009, 09:16 AM   #199
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CEB October seats up for grabs
Any domestic destination for P899

The country’s leading domestic carrier, Cebu Pacific (CEB), offers P899 ‘Go Lite’ seats to any domestic destination from September 17-18, 2009 only, for travel from October 1-31, 2009.

Passengers with check-in luggage will just add P100 upon booking.

CEB, also Asia’s third-largest low cost carrier, has 50 routes in 32 domestic destinations, making it the airline with the most number of flights in the country.

Recently, it started flying to Cauayan (Isabela), Calbayog and Catarman in Samar and Virac, Catanduanes. It maintains its monopoly routes such as Cebu-Siargao, Cebu-Legazpi, Davao-Iloilo and Davao-Cagayan de Oro, among others.

“We expect more Filipinos to travel this October because of the semestral break and proximity of the travel period to All Saints and All Souls Day. This seat sale will allow travelers to bring their families and friends to new destinations, and to fly home more often—both of which are our goals as an airline company,” said CEB VP for marketing and product Candice Iyog.

Passengers can avail of this seat sale through the recently launched CEB payment center facility. Guests booking online can opt to pay for their bookings over the counter at Robinsons Bank, Banco de Oro and Metrobank, or via ATM at Robinsons Bank, Metrobank, and other Megalink and Bancnet members.

“We are doing this in order to widen our reach. Now, travelers who have no credit cards can likewise book CEB’s best deals and lowest fares through the website, and pay through our payment centers,” Iyog said.

Passengers are encouraged to book their flights through the reservation hotlines (02) 7020-888 or (032) 230-888, the payment centers (ATM or over-the-counter) or the website www.cebupacificair.com .

Gokongwei-owned CEB flies to 1,600 domestic flights per week. Since its inception in 1996, it has flown over 36 million passengers from its four hubs (Manila, Cebu, Davao and Clark), using the youngest fleet of aircraft in the country.
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