DPL | Dipolog Airport

[dashalvin]

Extension ang description sa PHILGEPS. 2100m man ang runway krn plus iextend xya with 775m so 2875m na tanan.

[lochinvar]

"Where is Carabao island?"

Pls. see the thread "Philippine National Infrastructure and Urban Planning Thread" and go to the last page.

[arianespace]

Originally Posted by dashalvin

Extension ang description sa PHILGEPS. 2100m man ang runway krn plus iextend xya with 775m so 2875m na tanan.

I told them already about it. They said that the one posted was erroneous. Unfortunately, items published in the PHILGEPS can't be changed. Real descriptions however can be found in the bidding documents. Apparently, there are two items for bidding, one for the runway expansion, and the other runway extension. Both have seawall component and they got messed up. The difference is the contractor requirements and budget. The remaining expansion component cost 55 million, while the extension component cost 170 million. The 27 million were taken from the 170 million to complete the seawall project making it 82 million. The remaining 140 million will be for runway extension and the 3 million for fencing. Why? Because the runway cannot be constructed in the water. A seawall has to be built first and then beach filled with soil to form the runway base foundation before its cemented. I hope we are clear now. I think I have shown you the pictures already on the previous pages.

The computation is not based on the current length but on how far the expansion went. Here are the construction breakdown since 1996:
expansion
814 meters-done
109 meters-asphalt portion done
765 meters-done
expansion and extension
775 meters-on bid
total 2,463 meters. I just rounded it up to 2,500.

If you wondered where the 40 meters went, its part of the overrun area. Why is that so? Because if you construct beyond it they have to close the road going to Gampis Sicayab. For aviation safety reasons they have to stop there. Otherwise it will look like this one.






Another item for bidding that is still not published yet is the expansion of the terminal building, construction of administration building, relocation and construction of fire station building costing another 170 million. It will be publish later so keep posted.

The design for the terminal building was stalled because Congressman Labadlabad added 60 million for the project. So probably, the floor area has increased about 30-40%. Expect two jet bridges too.

The final component is the installation of ILS and other navigational facilities costing another 170 million. It seems that all this equipment are brand new. They are to be installed in 2010.

[dashalvin]

Thnk u very much ariane. Hmmh, they should be careful next time in posting info. BTW, where and what is the name of the airport you have posted above?

[dashalvin]

Is it possible for a private firm in the province to build the terminal and manage it? Is that allowed in CAB rules?

[dashalvin]

ariane, wen ang target date na may madraw ng perspective sa ating airport? I'm really excited in this dev't. May festival dance pala ang airport as warm greeting sa plane na dumadating sa atin. Pag may occasion kay everyday din ang presentation like this May for Pagsalabuk Festival and June for Hudyaka ZANORTE Festival.

[arianespace]

There is already a perspective. But DOTC is expanding the old building first, so not much can be expected of it. I was told that when the airport will start serving 6 to 8 jet flights a day, the new terminal will be added and attached to the old one. Right now, the terminal is still under capacity with utilization rate of less than 40%. The problem is it gets congested only when both airlines scheduled their jet aircraft to arrive almost at the same time. After that period, the terminal is deserted.

Ideal scenario would be jet flights scheduled at 6,730,9,1030,12,130,3, and 430 as last jet flight with turboprops in between. That is equivalent to 16 commercial flight movements, excluding military and general aviation. From all indications, the airport is long way to go.

Right now, what you have is 12 and 130 sked. So 6 more jet flights to go before the new one is needed. Had Ozamis airport not opened you could have 3 daily jet flights and 2 daily prop flights already. But don't worry, the 2nd 5j flight for manila is coming soon. I did remember PAL operating a twice daily B737 flight before.

By my calculations, it would not come until 2015, unless of course Nonong will make it happen. Meaning, invites droves of foreign tourist to be able to fill in passengers equivalent to that of Tagbilaran. In the span of two years Tagbilaran airport grew from a single jet flight to 6 daily flights. Remember he did it once before making PAL fly to Dipolog. When PAL flew again in 1999, it serviced only 5 points in Mindanao. The airport is one of them.

[dashalvin]

Gumamit b ang PAL noon ng A320 for their Dipolog-Manila route?

[arianespace]

Before their rehabilitation in 1999, Dipolog was traditionally a Boeing 737 route. All their 4 A320 fly only to Bacolod, Cebu, Iloilo, Tacloban, Davao, and Cagayan de Oro. PAL started introducing A320 in 2002 alternating with B737-300/400. At their previous configuration, a Boeing 737-300 jet has the lowest seat at 132 followed by A320 and B737-400. In single class configuration A320 is the biggest at 180 seats while B737-400 seats 168. Since Dipolog only had one flight, its biggest narrowbody is the 320 which can accommodate 180, and Dipolog had those plenty of time.

Today, the regular equipment of PAL is 319 because of Cebu Pacific but sometimes PAL bring in the 320 because it carried 30 more passengers. Cebu Pacific also fly 319 as standard for Dipolog but lately they have been using 320 equipment because of passenger and cargo load. That is the reason sometimes when they arrive late due to change of equipment.

Thats why I said that additional flight may come soon because the 2 320 can no longer support growing number of traffic. So it will come back again to all 319 only now there will be 3 of them.

Also be aware that Dipolog Airport carries a flight restriction because of inadequate runway even if it parades a 2km runway. Therefore it cannot carry a substantially loaded 737 or 320 out. Remember, both PAL and CEB carries plenty of fuel for its turnaround flight unlike any other domestic point because the airport had no refueling station. In fact they carry 3 hours worth of flying time that is roughly equivalent to Manila-Singapore flight or Manila-Bangkok flight. That is the reason plenty of cargo is left at the airport for the next day and sometimes both airlines said that its fully booked yet you find plenty of vacant seats. It simply meant they have more heavy cargo under the planes belly to carry.

If you quantify it, the cargo is actually worth more than what the passenger has paid if you convert it to his weight. If you want to know how much? Pay for the excess baggage per kilogram.

When the cargo becomes to many to carry, they just have to charter Aboitiz air to carry it for them. Besides, cargo doesn't complain when they are delayed. Passengers do.

[dashalvin]

Pag isa lang ang runway may flight restriction pala, ganun ba yun ariane?

[marlowe_cano]

Originally Posted by arianespace

Before their rehabilitation in 1999, Dipolog was traditionally a Boeing 737 route. All their 4 A320 fly only to Bacolod, Cebu, Iloilo, Tacloban, Davao, and Cagayan de Oro. PAL started introducing A320 in 2002 alternating with B737-300/400. At their previous configuration, a Boeing 737-300 jet has the lowest seat at 132 followed by A320 and B737-400. In single class configuration A320 is the biggest at 180 seats while B737-400 seats 168. Since Dipolog only had one flight, its biggest narrowbody is the 320 which can accommodate 180, and Dipolog had those plenty of time.

Today, the regular equipment of PAL is 319 because of Cebu Pacific but sometimes PAL bring in the 320 because it carried 30 more passengers. Cebu Pacific also fly 319 as standard for Dipolog but lately they have been using 320 equipment because of passenger and cargo load. That is the reason sometimes when they arrive late due to change of equipment.

Thats why I said that additional flight may come soon because the 2 320 can no longer support growing number of traffic. So it will come back again to all 319 only now there will be 3 of them.

Also be aware that Dipolog Airport carries a flight restriction because of inadequate runway even if it parades a 2km runway. Therefore it cannot carry a substantially loaded 737 or 320 out. Remember, both PAL and CEB carries plenty of fuel for its turnaround flight unlike any other domestic point because the airport had no refueling station. In fact they carry 3 hours worth of flying time that is roughly equivalent to Manila-Singapore flight or Manila-Bangkok flight. That is the reason plenty of cargo is left at the airport for the next day and sometimes both airlines said that its fully booked yet you find plenty of vacant seats. It simply meant they have more heavy cargo under the planes belly to carry.

If you quantify it, the cargo is actually worth more than what the passenger has paid if you convert it to his weight. If you want to know how much? Pay for the excess baggage per kilogram.

When the cargo becomes to many to carry, they just have to charter Aboitiz air to carry it for them. Besides, cargo doesn't complain when they are delayed. Passengers do.

@arianespace: kindly giive us some infos regarding the present n future aviation industry in zamboanga city? thanks!

[kalbongdad]

Originally Posted by arianespace

I told them already about it. They said that the one posted was erroneous. Unfortunately, items published in the PHILGEPS can't be changed. Real descriptions however can be found in the bidding documents. Apparently, there are two items for bidding, one for the runway expansion, and the other runway extension. Both have seawall component and they got messed up. The difference is the contractor requirements and budget. The remaining expansion component cost 55 million, while the extension component cost 170 million. The 27 million were taken from the 170 million to complete the seawall project making it 82 million. The remaining 140 million will be for runway extension and the 3 million for fencing. Why? Because the runway cannot be constructed in the water. A seawall has to be built first and then beach filled with soil to form the runway base foundation before its cemented. I hope we are clear now. I think I have shown you the pictures already on the previous pages.

The computation is not based on the current length but on how far the expansion went. Here are the construction breakdown since 1996:
expansion
814 meters-done
109 meters-asphalt portion done
765 meters-done
expansion and extension
775 meters-on bid
total 2,463 meters. I just rounded it up to 2,500.

If you wondered where the 40 meters went, its part of the overrun area. Why is that so? Because if you construct beyond it they have to close the road going to Gampis Sicayab. For aviation safety reasons they have to stop there. Otherwise it will look like this one.






Another item for bidding that is still not published yet is the expansion of the terminal building, construction of administration building, relocation and construction of fire station building costing another 170 million. It will be publish later so keep posted.

The design for the terminal building was stalled because Congressman Labadlabad added 60 million for the project. So probably, the floor area has increased about 30-40%. Expect two jet bridges too.

The final component is the installation of ILS and other navigational facilities costing another 170 million. It seems that all this equipment are brand new. They are to be installed in 2010.

are these actual pics of planes about to land? buti nde sumasabit sa bakod

[dashalvin]

Kasali ba sa airport dev't project ariane ang pag-asphalt overlay ng runway since di pa ito asphalted?

[dashalvin]

Ongoing na pala ang asphalt-overlaying ng Dipolog Airport. Smooth na soon ang touch down at take off ng mga airlines na nagseserve dito.:-)

[kalbongdad]

Originally Posted by arianespace

Dipolog Airport Kicks on for a Major Expansion in 2008




This is a news story you will first read here on this forum. Lucky you!
March 18,2008
Almost 165 Million pesos was released last month by the National Government to DOTC under the GAA for 2008 for the expansion and widening of Dipolog Airport runway. Construction work include completion of seawall (shore) protection and river bank protection works.
Bidding will be conducted on March 27, 2008 and construction of the project begins on May 2008 with duration of 300 days.

This is part of the Airport Master Plan submitted to ADB for funding. When totally completed, the runway will have a length of 2,700 meters x 45 meters. Currently, the runway stands at 2,110 meters x 30. With this expansion, the runway will extend up to Camp Hamac in Sicayab and can accommodate technically Airbus 340/330 or Boeing 747s. It will have a turn-around pad similar to that of Davao International Airport. This is definitely bigger than Zamboanga International. However, serving 340/330 or 747 is another matter. This will be implemented in May 2008. Note that the total cost of the Airport Master Plan is more than 700 Million, and this is only the runway component. I'm not sure though if the amount covers the entire length.

See this link if you are interested to bid.
http://www.philgeps.net/GEPS/Tender/...3&refid=557513

Another 50 Million is earmarked for Instrument Landing System (ILS) and upgrading of other navigational equipment, including repair of runway lights for 2009. ILS is used for night and bad weather landing.Technical evaluation was completed in 2007 and this will be installed after the completion of the runway extension and expansion project.

Another 200 Million is earmarked for Terminal expansion by 2010 to be completed by 2012.

Funny, this project is supposed to be completed by 2009 but now it seems poised to be done in 2012 unless sooner postponed again. Originally this was supposed to be constructed in 1997. The terminal is similar to Davao International but smaller in size as design was done with the same architect, COWI NACo of Netherlands and some local partners.

Well, the government may have good reasons for doing so (delay), considering the financial crisis at that time and the collapse of PAL, as projects depend on forecast passenger traffic based on ATO data, viable traffic was attained only in 2007 when it was supposed to be the traffic in 1997. Davao International suffered similar faith which opted ADB to revise passenger forecast by adopting a different formula for computing traffic on proposed airport construction.

In simple terms, only those airports that are economically viable, with capacity to grow, served by at least 2 carriers, and evidence of traffic growth for at least 5 years, shall be funded for massive improvement. Of all the Mindanao secondary airports, only Butuan, Cotabato and Dipolog qualified. So we have this project.

Never mind the international ones.

i like the design of dipolog airport ...malay design yan....pati ang zambo unique...ang design...if they could somehow capture that malay inspired bldg design and make it modern looking.....that will be awesome....mga taga dipolog....should clamor for it...

[dashalvin]

I'm excited sa new rendering terminal. Maganda sana kung marelease para may idea tayo kung anong ginamit nila na motif.

[buknit]

unsay flight sked sa pal express ug cebu pacific para dipolog-cebu nga flight? thnx

[marlowe_cano]

Originally Posted by buknit

unsay flight sked sa pal express ug cebu pacific para dipolog-cebu nga flight? thnx

CEBU PACIFIC
CEBU – DIPOLOG
5J – 863 MO/WE/FR 1330 1420 ATR
DIPOLOG - CEBU
5J – 864 MO/WE/FR 1440 1530 ATR

PAL EXPRESS
CEBU to DIPOLOG
PR 275 Mo-We-Fr 06:40 07:30 DH4

DIPOLOG to CEBU
PR 276 Mo-We-Fr 07:50 08:40 DH4

[dashalvin]

Originally Posted by buknit

unsay flight sked sa pal express ug cebu pacific para dipolog-cebu nga flight? thnx

Mag-unsa man ka sa Cebu buknit? hehe...

[dashalvin]

Originally Posted by marlowe_cano

CEBU PACIFIC
CEBU – DIPOLOG
5J – 863 MO/WE/FR 1330 1420 ATR
DIPOLOG - CEBU
5J – 864 MO/WE/FR 1440 1530 ATR

PAL EXPRESS
CEBU to DIPOLOG
PR 275 Mo-We-Fr 06:40 07:30 DH4

DIPOLOG to CEBU
PR 276 Mo-We-Fr 07:50 08:40 DH4

Maganda yong sked nila. Di nag kumpetensya ng time.