Urban Land Institute coming to Tampa - Page 6

TPAMAN · November 4th, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Del Mayberry

Ideas? Tear down CapTrust and build a 40-50 story mixed use tower with a restaurant on the first floor. HRT - forget about it. Build twin luxury condos there (but who's buying?). Merchantile - too ugly. Just tear it down and build another dorm there.

Thought it interesting the ownership of the Sheraton just changed this past summer and the owners are declining comment considering the CapTrust and Mercantile neighbors. Would be an interesting shoreline for redevelopment from the Selmon all the way to Kennedy with the right plan/financing.

Del Mayberry · November 4th, 2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TPAMAN

Thought it interesting the ownership of the Sheraton just changed this past summer and the owners are declining comment considering the CapTrust and Mercantile neighbors. Would be an interesting shoreline for redevelopment from the Selmon all the way to Kennedy with the right plan/financing.

Get rid of all three buildings there and have a clean slate.

TPAMAN · November 4th, 2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Del Mayberry

Get rid of all three buildings there and have a clean slate.

Exactly. IF there were a national developer with deep pockets, they could pull off something meaningful and worthwhile.

TPAMAN · November 4th, 2012, 07:17 PM

When you look at the recent purchase prices for Sheraton and Mercantile (under 35MIL for both) and what the Captrust/former Trump site went for, that's a good chunk of waterfront land that could change the dynamics of the entire CBD.

Del Mayberry · November 4th, 2012, 10:22 PM

But please don't say "build a long park". We don't need any more shitty little useless parks in DT.

***I-275westcoastfl*** · November 5th, 2012, 02:48 AM

Well one thing I don't see any developer doing that now or within the next few years. Fact is most of the development in downtown Tampa right now is building parking lots or mediocre low rise buildings. It is a prime spot and excellent opportunity but nothing of importance will develop there anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Del Mayberry

But please don't say "build a long park". We don't need any more shitty little useless parks in DT.

I agree with this 100%

Jasonhouse · November 6th, 2012, 03:45 AM

Captrust and Mercantile Bank buildings both should have had big tax breaks offered if the buildings were torn down. At least the new hotel will be an obvious complimentary use fronting the riverwalk.

particlez · November 8th, 2012, 02:31 AM

I shouldn't bring up the negative, but the Urban Land Institute and many of these other supposed think tanks are funded by various vested interests, namely developers and their bank buddies. Thus there's a lot of talk regarding aesthetics and other incremental issues, but a conscious aversion to any mention of taxing their funders (e.g. windfall capital gains from rising land prices), and prioritizing actual urban planning over the ROI of the FIRE industry.

Kinda sucks, as there is no shortage of under/unemployed architects, urban planners, economists, but their perspectives can't find an audience. Half the threads on SSP seem to revolve around ULI and similar think tanks, and their respective editorial positions.

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November 4th, 2012, 07:17 PM	#104
TPAMAN Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 434 Likes (Received): 3	When you look at the recent purchase prices for Sheraton and Mercantile (under 35MIL for both) and what the Captrust/former Trump site went for, that's a good chunk of waterfront land that could change the dynamics of the entire CBD.

November 4th, 2012, 10:22 PM	#105
Del Mayberry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 514 Likes (Received): 0	But please don't say "build a long park". We don't need any more shitty little useless parks in DT.

November 6th, 2012, 03:45 AM	#107
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,319 Likes (Received): 8	Captrust and Mercantile Bank buildings both should have had big tax breaks offered if the buildings were torn down. At least the new hotel will be an obvious complimentary use fronting the riverwalk.

November 8th, 2012, 02:31 AM	#108
particlez Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 483 Likes (Received): 8	I shouldn't bring up the negative, but the Urban Land Institute and many of these other supposed think tanks are funded by various vested interests, namely developers and their bank buddies. Thus there's a lot of talk regarding aesthetics and other incremental issues, but a conscious aversion to any mention of taxing their funders (e.g. windfall capital gains from rising land prices), and prioritizing actual urban planning over the ROI of the FIRE industry. Kinda sucks, as there is no shortage of under/unemployed architects, urban planners, economists, but their perspectives can't find an audience. Half the threads on SSP seem to revolve around ULI and similar think tanks, and their respective editorial positions.