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Old August 14th, 2012, 01:48 AM   #281
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Marmaray in 2013?? Where in the world did you hear that?
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Old August 14th, 2012, 06:37 PM   #282
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I am living in istanbul,seeing what happens on these construction works and officials telling that they will open the line on 2013 s second half. They are hanging advertisements on boards and on them it says "in 2013 Kartal to Topkapı will take 70 minutes by maramaray and metro." etc etc...

But you have a right point; all of these if there no any more delays will happen, everything is possible and we are just dreaming for 2013 connections...Do not wake us up from our dreaming dude!
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Old August 14th, 2012, 10:31 PM   #283
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M4 Kadıköy Metro Station









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New M4 line opened

Now the asian side has got also a metro line.


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M4 looks very nice and friendly. Istanbul really needs more lines, but IMO 500 km of metro in 2023 is too ambitious even for the booming Turkish economy.

Can somebody give more details of the rolling stock for M4? Lenght, capacity, price and etc.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 07:35 PM   #286
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M4 looks very nice and friendly. Istanbul really needs more lines, but IMO 500 km of metro in 2023 is too ambitious even for the booming Turkish economy.

Can somebody give more details of the rolling stock for M4? Lenght, capacity, price and etc.
Yes, this is not China, in fact the Üsküdar metro started this year is the first new metro venture started in 7 years. 300 to max. 400 km is the maximum of what is possible.
Trains are by CAF, come in sets of 4 interconnected coaches which can be connected to operate as 8 coaches, which is not the case at the moment. One train is 90 meters. I believe this price is per coach: 1,156,000 Euro, 120 of which were purchased plus a reserve of 24 to be put in use after the extension to Kaynarca. Makes up 36 trains.
From the official website of Istanbul metro and tram operator Istanbul Ulasim:

* Üretici Firma:CAF (İspanya)
* Tren Tipi: 4’lü araç (3 adet motorlu,1 adet taşıyıcı araç)
* Cer Motorlar: 4 kutuplu AC motorlar
* Tren Uzunluğu: 89,71 m
* Araç Yüksekliği: 3,5 m
* Araç Genişliği: 3 m
* Güç Kaynağı: 1500 V DC (Katener)
* DC Besleme (Akü): 110 V DC

* Araç Sayısı:144 (120 + 24)(%20 keşifle ilave 24 araç alınmıştır.)
* İhale Tarihi:14.07.2009
* Sözleşme Tarihi:09.09.2009
* İşe Başlanma Tarihi:28.09.2009
* Fiyatı:138.739.027 € / 120 Araç (1,156,000 Euro/ Araç)
* İlk dizinin yurda geliş tarihi:11.01.2011
* İlk aracın raya indiriliş tarihi:27.01.2011
* İlk trenin tip test tarihi: 11-16.04.2011
* Raya inen tren sayısı:17.tren sahada
* %20 keşif artışı kullanılması:06.04.2012 ile ilave 6 tren
* Son trenin (36.) teslim tarihi:31.08.2012

@woonsocket: M4 is well-connected at the Western end. In Kadiköy, the metro entrances face directly the ferry jetties where thousands arrive from the European side. In less than 5 minutes, you can transfer from ferry to metro here. In Ünalan there is an (admittedly badly done) transfer point to the metrobus, i.e. a rapid transit bus system on the city highway which also takes you to the European side. With the interconnection to Mamaray, links will be excellent.
The criticism that Istanbulites have voiced after the first two days of the line being open is different:
- the exits along the city highway are too far from the urban centers of the Asian coastal suburbs. In some cases you have to walk alongside the highway access roads or the highway itself.
- the exits are insufficiently marked inside, which becomes a problem as some of them take you down long corridors to get you into different neighborhoods on different sides of the highway.
- it is noisy inside the metro.
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Old August 19th, 2012, 09:00 PM   #287
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Old August 19th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #288
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congratulations istambul!...
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Old August 20th, 2012, 02:01 PM   #289
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Found this on a blog (thecitygeek.tumblr.com). anybody heard of this plan? are there plans to be found somewhere?

new metro line brings promise of car-free waterfront in istanbul

At the inauguration of a new metro line in Istanbul, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced a new car-free public space of 60.000 square meters along the Bosphorus.

Local and national government hope that the new metro line will ease traffic congestion in the city. At the opening prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan suggested that citizens should use more public transportation. The city has close to two million cars, and an additional 450 every day.

To underline his statement, Erdogan announced that the square above the Kadikoy terminus will be developed as a car-free public space. The existing bus terminal will make way for a pedestrian zone of 60.000 square meters, making it more pleasant for people to transfer between the new metro, the important ferry port and the historic Haydarpasa rail terminal. Or to simply stroll along the harbour.

“Istanbul has been undergoing irregular urbanization for many years”, said Erdogan. “We aim to fix the problems of the past while creating solutions for the future.”

At the same time the prime minister, who was mayor of greater Istanbul in the 1990s, gets critized for building a third Bosphorus bridge that’s expected to attract more car traffic.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 07:41 PM   #291
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very good, although i wish that istanbul develops its metro faster , when did the construction all begin?
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 03:54 AM   #292
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Is the full line open?
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Check the map link above. Kadiköy-Kartal is fully open, three more stations east of Kartal to Kaynarca are still u/c. Metros do not stop at Ayrilikcesme at the moment (1st station after Kadiköy), because of Marmaray construction. The Marmaray stop at Ayrilikcesme will be exactly on top of the metro station.
@our friend from Persepolis: Construction of M4, M3, M1B and Marmaray all started in 2003 or 2004, M2 southern extension already started in 1998 but has been full of planning and construction mistakes, plus they must take special care because of archaeological sites and world heritage issues. Since 2004 no new metro construction was started until this year. That is why we will see more inaugurations over the next 2 years but then probably nothing for some years, if the municipality does not pick up its pace.
@starsailor: Yes, this plan is serious. Kadiköy waterfront, at present the site of a gigantic bus station for dolmus, minibus, and busses plus a major road, will have very reduced automobile access in the future. Our friend Arda has been following this development more closely, has some pictures of the areas above the metro entrances which have already been turned green. Arda?
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@baron hirsch @www.sercan.de tx for the info and the visuals!
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 10:45 PM   #296
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Nice pictures and nice line!

Do you have more pictures of the trains?
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For more pictures of the trains and latforms, check the Turkish forum dedicated to M4, especially page 9 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1477692&page=9
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 01:55 PM   #298
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I'm in late but... CONGRATULATIONS ISTANBUL!!!
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M4 looks very nice and friendly. Istanbul really needs more lines, but IMO 500 km of metro in 2023 is too ambitious even for the booming Turkish economy.
I have to agree with this particularly considering the length of several other excellent metro systems of large urban areas (Madrid ca 300 km, London ca 400 km).
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